Skinner - Verified Friend of Mark Sievers - Q & A thread

[FelicityLemon]

Let's go back to the original bio claim:
In 2000, Wright created an internationally distributed patent pending commercial web application allowing fully interactive dynamic e-commerce web sites to be created in minutes for the restaurant industry.

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What's to stop any of us from putting something like that on our resumes since it can't be proved if we're not named on it or have something legitimate to back up that claim?

 

[Skinner]

It is not CWW's resume, its a bio where he claimed to be the creator of an internationally distributed patent pending commercial web app. Creator = inventor. As you've said, CWW is the person who brought your idea to life. He created it. Much different from saying you're working on or helping to develop.

Its not a leap. If CWW claims to have CREATED a patent pending web app, it follows that if in fact an application was filed, his name would be listed as an inventor. Its not an assumption, its a basic tenant of patent law.

You have the story, and your assumption happens to be wrong in this case. What else can be said?

This point was discussed with my Patent Law Firm, and they disagree with you.

 

[Deleted member 159541]

Skinner, when you met with CWW in the restaurant (facilitated by MS), how long after this meeting did MS tell you about CWW selling or making meth in the house he was renting from MS? Can you give us some sort of timeline on all of your interactions with MS that involved CWW?

 

[Skinner]

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What's to stop any of us from putting something like that on our resumes since it can't be proved if we're not named on it or have something legitimate to back up that claim?

From what I can gather, you guys nabbed that bio resume of his from another company website, and the timing of that reveals to me that my corporate website and my technology website were both up and running at that time, and on my corporate site had named Wayne's company on it.

Verification was easy enough.

 

[Skinner]

Skinner, when you met with CWW in the restaurant (facilitated by MS), how long after this meeting did MS tell you about CWW selling or making meth in the house he was renting from MS? Can you give us some sort of timeline on all of your interactions with MS that involved CWW?

That was several years later, maybe, I really don't know, but maybe 2007 or 2008?

And maybe I used the wrong word on that, but I don't remember. Maybe meth was or was not the word used by Mark, but it was discussed due to Wayne's arrest at some time, and I just used that word. Perhaps Mark used the word "drugs in his house". I really do not remember the exact talk. But I do remember the statement about not wanting anything illegal in his house, so it/Wayne had to go.

Seemed upright to me.

 

[jggordo]

Skinner, was your computer design and software used for the system at Dr. Sievers' clinic? Is it feasible to pay $200 per hour for maintaining the system there? How often would the system require "maintenance" from ITT? How much would a "server fee" be per month for a small medical practice?
Thanks..

 

[creepingskills]

You have the story, and your assumption happens to be wrong in this case. What else can be said?

This point was discussed with my Patent Law Firm, and they disagree with you.

Skinner, as you'll see in my post prior to this one, there are many reasons why I'm "assuming" that if CWW was an inventor, a creator, someone who wrote the code to bring your idea to life, he should have been listed on the application as an inventor. Did CWW meet with your patent attorney? I'm going to assume he would have to, because if you could have explained the claims to be written, then you could have written the code and brought your own idea to life. And hey, maybe that is the case which would prove my ORIGINAL point, that CWW wasn't listed on any patent application. Either way, if CWW did not work directly with your attorney to write the patent claims, I am not surprised the application did not make it to publication. Please understand I say this encouragingly, your idea is probably very novel, and the problem was with the way the claims were written.

 

[Skinner]

Skinner, was your computer design and software used for the system at Dr. Sievers' clinic? Is it feasible to pay $200 per hour for maintaining the system there? How often would the system require "maintenance" from ITT? How much would a "server fee" be per month for a small medical practice?
Thanks..

No. Not in any way.

The large rate of $200/hour, was when a corporation is doing something big, and they want it done right, and the cost to the corporation might end up being $1000/hour, with a few other tech guys in the bundled fee.

Wayne did work for the largest beer manufacturer in the world, and they wanted new computers to monitor their manufacturing process, which they had almost a dozen manufacturing centers in the USA alone. So what was really neat, at that time, something I was able to follow from my own personal experiential knowledge, was that when you create a PC, at that time, you had to put a floppy disk in it to get the machine to know some basic stuff, so that it could then begin to read a CD-ROM, and back then, setting up a PC system using the Microsoft Operating System, could take a few hours for each machine, with the back & forth of babysitting a machine waiting for a next prompt.

Wayne had figured out a way to do the rollout in each plant, including the new software they developed for the company, all at the same time without the floppy disk method, and this was before our modern motherboards and the latest USB drives. It saved the corporation a bundle in time and expenses.

So while Wayne could do a mom & pop company website, that was not the best use of his skill. But even with mom & pop sites, he taught me a lot, and I now understand things about most websites, and how amateurish they are, based on things that the pros do, and don't do.

 

[FelicityLemon]

From what I can gather, you guys nabbed that bio resume of his from another company website, and the timing of that reveals to me that my corporate website and my technology website were both up and running at that time, and on my corporate site had named Wayne's company on it.

Verification was easy enough.

No offense was intended. I have no idea where his resume/bio came from; I never saw it. My comment was just a general query about resumes and what people claim on them. Reading about the patent process and who did what towards executing the original idea and who gets credit for creation. I know it can be extremely frustrating knowing you (I/we/you) were instrumental in getting something from someone else's idea to functional end product but have no "credit" anywhere in writing and have to rely on the integrity of the inventor to back up your claims. I've been in that position and it can be awkward to try and prove the product wouldn't exist without your work if the person who hired you won't corroborate. If it was on your company's website, that's great - it should always be that way!

 

[Deleted member 159541]

Skinner, it was outlined in a newspaper article that a friend of MS named "Kitty" said that CWW was fired from some computer work at one of her son's companies due to something untoward. Did MS ever discuss this with you? If yes, can you provide details? Did MS ever mention to you that CWW was questioned about the disappearance of Ronnie Bolin? Did MS ever discuss with you any other computer related ventures that he facilitated with CWW? Thank you.

 

[beach]

Admin Note:

If you're not Skinner, please stop quoting and addressing other members' posts and observations. I am removing all those posts.

 

[Skinner]

Skinner, it was outlined in a newspaper article that a friend of MS named "Kitty" said that CWW was fired from some computer work at one of her son's companies due to something untoward. Did MS ever discuss this with you? If yes, can you provide details? Did MS ever mention to you that CWW was questioned about the disappearance of Ronnie Bolin? Did MS ever discuss with you any other computer related ventures that he facilitated with CWW? Thank you.

With regard to Ronnie Bolin, I never heard of the guy until Naples News broke that story.

The other stuff, I became aware of but was living on the other side of the country at that time, so was not knowledgeable to the details of it.

Other computer related ventures -- I suppose maybe. Mark and I, since the time we met, would discuss business ideas in one way or another. That was how I told him about my invention, which was not an invention at that time, but in the budding process.

In the last few years, Mark and I might talk about various business ideas using the internet (not many ideas nowadays do NOT use the internet), and if such a thing would be a good idea, Wayne, I would be pretty confident to say, would be a person Mark would go to if he was going to move forward on an idea of that nature.

Next time I speak with Mark, I might ask him how or why he used some other company to begin with in his wife's practice. Like I wrote some time ago, that other company was costing way too much for the little in maintenance they did. As I stop to consider it, perhaps when they opened their practice, Wayne was in jail at that time? I don't know, but maybe.

 

[wondering25]

That was several years later, maybe, I really don't know, but maybe 2007 or 2008?

And maybe I used the wrong word on that, but I don't remember. Maybe meth was or was not the word used by Mark, but it was discussed due to Wayne's arrest at some time, and I just used that word. Perhaps Mark used the word "drugs in his house". I really do not remember the exact talk. But I do remember the statement about not wanting anything illegal in his house, so it/Wayne had to go.

Seemed upright to me.

I dont have a problem with MS not wanting "drug manufacturing" and anything he owns being used in the same sentence. Let's not be stupid here.. i dont care how much you love your best friend.. if they are destroying your property whether it is by flushing cement down the drains or manufacturing drugs.. they have to go. You are not obligated to allow the ruination of your property to ANYONE.

I would be more upset if he had turned a blind eye to this. He could have also risked his own reputation by being tied into this illegal activity. At least in this instance, MS did the responsible thing, IMO.

Perhaps MS is not cooperating with LE NOW because he is not convinced CWW killed his wife. He is in shock and denial? I don't know..maybe that is what the sheriff meant when he refused to say MS was currently cooperating. it is one thing to evict your friend for meth production and another thing to help send him to the gallows even if he did murder your wife.. In some sense, MS loves CWW for the brother and buddy he was.. it will take time to process all of this.. when a woman finds out her husband is cheating..she doesnt immediately fall out of love.. she just doesn't. Something similar may be occurring here with both MS and CWW and MS and Skinner.. JMO

Anything I write is just my opinion.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Skinner. How was MS around the ladies back in the day? Was he a go getter. Or was he very humble around women.

 

[Deleted member 159541]

Skinner, CWW used an email address of [email protected]. The waynewright3884 was used on his myspace and flicker account. Does it surprise you to see the amateur nature of this website (even though it is only a hold of a domain page) that was created by CWW, given his genius with computer software? The website is http://www.gohytech.com The domain registration is https://whoisology.com/archive_10/gohytech.com In your opinion, don't you think this looks relatively amateur?

 

[creepingskills]

Skinner, can you elaborate on what went wrong with regard to your business relationship with CWW? Why did you cut ties with CWW?

 

[Skinner]

Skinner. How was MS around the ladies back in the day? Was he a go getter. Or was he very humble around women.

Oh my. Don't get me going. There are way too many funny stories about Mark and females.

Mark was not shy.

 

[creepingskills]

Skinner, did you ever meet TS?

 

[jggordo]

Skinner, do you know what type(s) of "supplements" were being sold through the clinic? Where are they manufactured? Are they FDA approved? I could find no list of them on the clinic website without a password that had to be provided by the clinic office.

JMO's

 

[Deleted member 159541]

Oh my. Don't get me going. There are way too many funny stories about Mark and females.

Mark was not shy.

Skinner, very surprised to see you write this as my experience with MS also was that he was not shy with the ladies - the only difference being that I knew him after he married TS.