Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #11

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  • #361
There isn't anything there that would help LE at this point without a tag number. I would hope they try a hypno-therapist to try to get the number from the witnesses. It is their only shot right now to ID the POI, imo. (I am just familiar with their databases from past experience.)
I quite honestly dont think a description of a truck is gonna help, because I dont think there is one. I think that description was made up because it is just too generic.
 
  • #362
Oklahoma used to list the first two letters of the county in which it was issued on their license plates but I don't know if it is still done that way or not. If it is, any witness who got that part of the license number, could at least narrow it down to a county.
 
  • #363
Or someone the girls knew was with them. And is scared to death to talk. Or called in the description of a truck and person who may be the person they were with. Or maybe the description of a truck and person that would throw LE off track. I have always believed it was something like the above. But again. jmo

Yes, that could be why no one has determined who the POI is.
 
  • #364
Yes, that could be why no one has determined who the POI is.

People just dont want to believe that these things happen in these parts. and the ones who do believe it, are too afraid to speak about it anywhere.:rolleyes:
 
  • #365
People just dont want to believe that these things happen in these parts. and the ones who do believe it, are too afraid to speak about it anywhere.:rolleyes:

If someone did witness these murders, they have every right to be scared.
What would blowing one more person away mean to the killer or killers? All of those people on the bridge may have been up to no good that day. It sounds like it was some sort of hangout place for kids around there.
 
  • #366
Frog...what is this Creech persons first name?
 
  • #367
I quite honestly don't think a description of a truck is gonna help, because I dint think there is one. I think that description was made up because it is just too generic.

I don't get why that would make the description made up. I mean if the guy was in a white truck, a Ford or a Chevy, then the witness must be honest with the investigators no matter if it is a common color.

White trucks are the most common color for pickup trucks found throughout the United States but that doesn't mean that the POI didn't drive one but the odds are higher that he mostly likely did since it is commonly used.

Imo the OSBI is not really worried that much about the truck ..they know he could have ditched the truck long ago or taken it back if it was borrowed. The sketch is what they want out there. The person, himself ,not what he may or may not be driving now.

imoo
 
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I don't get why that would make the description made up. I mean if the guy was in a white truck, a Ford or a Chevy, then the witness must be honest with the investigators no matter if it is a common color.

White trucks are the most common color for pickup trucks found throughout the United States but that doesn't mean that the POI didn't drive one but the odds are higher that he mostly likely did since it is commonly used.

Imo the OSBI is not really worried that much about the truck ..they know he could have ditched the truck long ago or taken it back if it was borrowed. The sketch is what they want out there. The person, himself ,not what he may or may not be driving now.

imoo
To throw them off track, that's why.
 
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To throw them off track, that's why.
I am going to have to disagree. I don't believe that several witnesses could all make up the same person and truck details. I think there is a white truck and there is a POI that looks almost exactly like the sketch provided.

OSBI agents are smarter than that!
 
  • #372
To throw them off track, that's why.


Sorry, frog, on this one I just don't agree.

Now if it was one witness maybe but OSBI and the artist said it is SEVERAL witnesses who saw the POI that day.

I don't buy into some grand conspiracy going on.

imoo
 
  • #373
Where is the post about the artist. That is a great article to reassure someone about the great job he did. I am going to side with it being a good pic. That pic does have detail to me. If yall noticed I wasn't commenting alot today, I have been searching I mean searching data bases for NA fugitives of all sorts & I have yet to find a generic or anyone close to our POI. jmo
 
  • #374
Thank you, SS.
 
  • #375
I don't think is was a local - but I do think it was someone who knew the girls or was connected to the girls - indirectly - as in thru one of their siblings, Aunts, Uncles etc. I don't think the killer(s) are living currently within a 30 mile radius of the crime scene.

Literally thousands of tips - most from locals and they didn't find the POI (who I think was either the only killer or an innocent passer-by). I would think at this point even locals who suddenly left the area, would get attention - the locals want this solved. Even the local criminals, it's making life very hard on the low-lifes, parolees and druggies - constantly being watched and questioned.

If this 🤬🤬🤬 killer is local, then chances are good he is NOT the POI, but is already on the radar with local LE and as soon as a case can be made (or any excuse for an arrest arises) they will grab him. No reason to put their cards on the table until the game is over - especially if they can easily keep tabs on him and his activities. Heck, maybe he isn't a violent criminal, maybe he is an unhinged nutcase who hates kids and drank too much that Sunday and lost it??

There is little honor among criminals - especially in the violent murders of children. I think if this had been a "group" or even 2 people, one may have talked, confided in someone or perhaps flipped on his partner. If not by now, they will eventually - within months I suspect. Same with "kids" - one or a group. Someone has or will soon talk or brag or confide in someone - and if it's kids, then the POI has NO connection and is a red herring of sorts (unintentional), he was there, but he didn't do it and doesn't know who did. THAT might throw off LE for a while - but even with that, I think the truth will break.

I lean toward the theory it was one man, probably the POI, with 2 guns. A solitary, quiet man un-connected except by the thinnest of threads, to one of the families, probably Taylor's. He isn't local, but he has visited the area a few times...may have even been to the Placker home once (with someone else) as part of a group of people - like for a party. Peter and Vicky don't know him and their family doesn't know him - he was merely a guest of a guest - or a casual friend of a friend of a friend . Un-remarkable and unremembered. I have no strong feeling on motive - it could have been as simple as he was in a bad mood - maybe lost his job recently. Maybe he was in the area to try to steal something and was unsuccessful - and mad. I think he is now in the wind, somewhere they do not know him but he is not out-of-place and he is on a motorcycle or in a nondescript car. He either blends in (as in an area with many NA's) or he no longer resembles the sketch, at least at a glance - he is careful to avoid any close scrutiny or drawing suspicion...for now anyway. He can be caught and he can be linked to the family if enough people are questioned and enough leads are followed to their end - someone does know him - they just haven't connected him to this crime....yet. Eventually LE will find him or he will let down his guard and do something that will get him arrested for something else.

The worst alternative is that it was a completely random thrill kill done by one person who was driving aimlessly in the country - an unknown party who has no connection at all to either girl or her family OR the area. Unless the killer himself is caught (perhaps for another crime) and there is ballistic evidence or DNA to match, this will probably remain unsolved.

I am hoping (praying) for ANYTHING but the last option.

My Opinion
 
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Sorry, frog, on this one I just don't agree.

Now if it was one witness maybe but OSBI and the artist said it is SEVERAL witnesses who saw the POI that day.

I don't buy into some grand conspiracy going on.

imoo
I know... I can see it your way, but just what IF some of those witnesses were the kids who were out there... and the poi is Creech... and there was some kind of a drug deal going down, and the girls saw it, and one of the boys knew them...

Its hard to explain, but in my head, as see it very easily going down this way.
what if the boys had come north on that road, say from about 3 miles away, down at the river, shooting their guns, and they met the POI at the bridge.
POI was going south. poi just got out of prison... here comes two little girls. or maybe they were on past and on their way back home. One of the boys had already had trouble with being snitched on by one of the little girls before. They talk about it. poi doesnt wanna go back to jail.... hits the gas.... blocks the girls.... pow pow pow! other boys flee in their vehicle. Get scared.... scared of POI. call in something half true?
Just something to think about.
 
  • #378
Letsthink & Flowerchild were talking about this on 7-8
http://crimeshadowsnews.com/

Those discussing the tragic case of the two Weleetka girls are noticing the resemblance between the POI sketch (above, left) and the photo of a Phoenix child molester(above, right) who has absconded parole. Some people have seen the similarity here at CrimeShadows News,...........
 
  • #379
That person certainly does have a strong similarity to the sketch artist's drawing. Is he currently locked up or is he out of jail now?

All I have heard is that they are keeping a close eye on him, and that he has now got his hair cut in a crew cut
 
  • #380
In a town that size, most people who live around there must know about this man by the name of Creech. If the people on the bridge were involved and trying to come up with a suspect, they just might put the finger on this guy knowing about his past. But then the guy did get his hair cut off which is suspect. I wonder how soon he got his hair cut after the girls were killed?
 
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