Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #11

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  • #121
I think you are right that we need to keep an open mind about that theory. As more and more things come out in the Brooke Bennett case, we can see that veil of secrecy can exist for years no matter how bad the abuses are. While it may or may not be possible of the family, it is something to consider in this case. The girls were both in the same age frame as the perps' choice for victims. Sexual abuse happens in 1-4 children.

A SO will take drastic measures to avoid jailtime. Could the perp have abused one or both of them at a different time and decided he needed to silence them? Yes and it would make this perp even harder to find unless he has a record already or someone names him.

I would like to know who the girls were around the last month before their deaths. Uncles, cousins, other men in general, etc. I can't recall who kept asking that question before. It is a good one.

I suppose you are right but I just believe anyone that was close around the girls before this happened would be the first ones that OSBI would rule out or rule in. They may not have had to go that far if they suspected prior molestation though because the ME could readily ascertain if either girl even ever had sex or if the ME was of the opinion that there was prior molestation involved when they did the autopsy almost a month ago. On that they would not have to wait for results but would know when the ME did the visual examinations.

With it being now a month I just don't think it is the motive in this case. More and more I see these murders as totally senseless and the motive will be equally senseless, as senseless as the day I first heard about them and I think that is why OSBI is taking longer to solve the case due to the very good possibility imo that there is no link between the killer and the children.

imoo
 
  • #122
It wouldn't have to be someone who knew the family to have abused Taylor. Her treks to the bridge could have involved someone else at another time and she was afraid to tell anyone under threats. Just saying it is possible not neccessarily what happened.
 
  • #123
Hi Everyone! Hi Claycat!

I do not think someone was disposing of a body. I can not imagine someone doing that on a Sunday afternoon. Maybe, I am thinking to rational like a "normal' person but, dumping a body on a semi-busy road on a Sunday afternoon makes no since to me. JMO.
Here you go...this happened today in broad daylight near noon in the city with people around:

Tulsa police are searching for suspects after two men were shot to death on 41st Street North between Columbia and Lewis. Officers were alerted to the shootings at approximately 12:15 p.m. on Wednesday.

When they arrived at the scene, police say they found 18-year-old Tajuan Davis and 18-year-old Teontae Ray dead inside a brown Chevy Impala.

http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=8648144

So it would not at all surprise me that the perp/perps could be trying to kill someone on a backroad on a Sunday afternoon. Some do not care where they are or who sees them, obviously.
 
  • #124
Here you go...this happened today in broad daylight near noon in the city with people around:

Tulsa police are searching for suspects after two men were shot to death on 41st Street North between Columbia and Lewis. Officers were alerted to the shootings at approximately 12:15 p.m. on Wednesday.

When they arrived at the scene, police say they found 18-year-old Tajuan Davis and 18-year-old Teontae Ray dead inside a brown Chevy Impala.

http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=8648144

So it would not at all surprise me that the perp/perps could be trying to kill someone on a backroad on a Sunday afternoon. Some do not care where they are or who sees them, obviously.
Being from Tulsa I can tell you from the location and the age of the victims that this was probably a gang or drug deal related murder - or perhaps even a "drive-by" of sorts. Tulsa is a city - with all the same problems of any city and there are murders on the street in broad daylight (just like in Dallas and Oklahoma City and St Louis). Weleetka is NOT like a city in that respect - I think Okfuskee county has probably 2 murders a YEAR, if that.

And as to dumping bodies - there are plenty of places in Okfuskee County where a body could be dumped and never found - or at least be hidden for YEARS. Roads where there isn't a house for MILES and maybe one car goes by a day - and it's easy to get off the road into a wooded area. Plus anyone dumping a body on County Line Road in THAT location would have seen and/or heard the girls (with a yappy little dog) approaching for 1/4 mile and 20 minutes - its flat all the way from the bridge to Taylor's house - plus we know at least 6 people passed the POI in a 20 minute period so kinda hard to dump a body unseen there. It could be he was - but I just don't think the POI was dumping a body

My Opinion
 
  • #125
One thing, I haven't seen....since it appears to be known the truck had an Oklahoma license...was it a regular license or the Native American license so popular in the state?

Did Justathought ever get an answer to her ?? To be honest I have never thought about that..we were all wondering why they didn't notice the #. Surely that would cut some of the possible vehicles down. But I know it still wouldn't put a dent in the bucket.
 
  • #126
Hi Ruflossn!

Motive seems to be the thing that escapes me the most. My original feeling was that it was payback of some sort, but I'm not sure.
Ive been thinking more about motive and what I have come up with is that perhaps this was a hired killer...to silence these girls about something they had discovered recently...the shots to the head is what is leading me to think maybe this was a kill for cash murder. I still am inclined to think that these two gilrs had learned soemthing or sen something they shouldn't have and someone's reputation was at stake and they couldn't risk it so he hired someone to kill them.
 
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Did Justathought ever get an answer to her ?? To be honest I have never thought about that..we were all wondering why they didn't notice the #. Surely that would cut some of the possible vehicles down. But I know it still wouldn't put a dent in the bucket.

IMO~

I am assuming the tag was a "regular" tag. Not one that is identified as an "Indian tag" It seems if it were the Indian model, it would have been mentioned as such. They are easily identifiable and that would have been an easy thing to i.d.

Also, the tag could have been stolen and placed on that vehicle.
So many questions.....................
 
  • #128
Ive been thinking more about motive and what I have come up with is that perhaps this was a hired killer...to silence these girls about something they had discovered recently...the shots to the head is what is leading me to think maybe this was a kill for cash murder. I still am inclined to think that these two gilrs had learned soemthing or sen something they shouldn't have and someone's reputation was at stake and they couldn't risk it so he hired someone to kill them.

Snowlover~

I think that when this is solved, not IF but WHEN :)
it is going to be related to an abduction gone awry. I have no real reason for this other than somethings a criminal profiler discussed on another forum. The whole murder for hire seems so Hollywood. But, stranger things have happened. I hope that there is resolution to this case soon.
 
  • #129
http://www.fox23.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=ddb1b5c5-7321-4363-b24b-258807374579

About Weleetka Murders
Last Update: 10:02 pm

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It’s been one month since the shocking discovery of the two little girls killed just down the road from their homes.


Now the community of Weleetka is struggling to come to terms with what happened and why no one has been arrested.


For the families of Skyla Whitaker and Taylor Paschal-Placker not knowing who killed their little girls is upsetting and frustrating.


For the first time, Skyla’s Father breaks his silence to Fox 23’s Abbie Alford about the loss of his daughter and her friend Taylor.
As Skyla’s father William Whitaker walks down the dirt road, the same dirt road where Skyla and Taylor were killed, he feels something land on him,


"See it, it landed on me, it landed right here on my….” A butterfly lands on his heart. William says Skyla loved butterflies.
 
  • #130
Ocean~
Thanks for posting this.
 
  • #131
OMG I could not get through reading this without crying.. How heartbreaking.. I got chill bumps about the butterfly.
 
  • #132
OSBI says they have received more than 450 leads. Here’s what investigators are releasing: They have given polygraph tests, submitted DNA and have conducted interviews.

This statement gives me confidence that the DNA has been submitted but, not yet returned to the authorities. Hopefully, when it is returned we will have a positive identification and the murderer will be found.
 
  • #133
OMG I could not get through reading this without crying.. How heartbreaking.. I got chill bumps about the butterfly.

The butterfly got to me also.
 
  • #134
Being from Tulsa I can tell you from the location and the age of the victims that this was probably a gang or drug deal related murder - or perhaps even a "drive-by" of sorts. Tulsa is a city - with all the same problems of any city and there are murders on the street in broad daylight (just like in Dallas and Oklahoma City and St Louis). Weleetka is NOT like a city in that respect - I think Okfuskee county has probably 2 murders a YEAR, if that.

And as to dumping bodies - there are plenty of places in Okfuskee County where a body could be dumped and never found - or at least be hidden for YEARS. Roads where there isn't a house for MILES and maybe one car goes by a day - and it's easy to get off the road into a wooded area. Plus anyone dumping a body on County Line Road in THAT location would have seen and/or heard the girls (with a yappy little dog) approaching for 1/4 mile and 20 minutes - its flat all the way from the bridge to Taylor's house - plus we know at least 6 people passed the POI in a 20 minute period so kinda hard to dump a body unseen there. It could be he was - but I just don't think the POI was dumping a body

My Opinion
My point is that DRUG DEALERS AND GANGBANGERS DO NOT CARE if it is daytime, the city, the outskirts, the country road, or wherever they happen to be if they decide to shoot someone in the head! (I am well aware that it is probably a gang related shooting, btw.)

Obviously, the perp/perps did not care at all about leaving the bodies right there for anyone to see. This means they would not have cared about hiding another body either. They may have chosen another location to wack someone since killing the girls made them "hot" for that particular moment tho. This is why I will continue to look for other murder victims in the area who were brutally murdered with all the hallmarks of this crime. These people did not think twice about killing these little girls with cars being on the road in broad daylight 300 yards from her home and they obviously did not worry about getting caught by leaving a pile of shell casings behind or leaving witnesses to talk. He/They are ruthless killer/killers. This is not some kid playing a game.

If you are from Tulsa, you should be far more aware of what is really going on here. People from smaller communities count on the dealers from Tulsa, OKC, etc. to supply them and visa versa. They work together to bring drugs in from other areas such as Mexico. The people who do know these backroads are probably involved in some way. There is so much meth in the small communities of OK right now that crime has begun in places immune in the past. That life is over. Welcome to the real world in small town America.
 
  • #135
It's an odd thing that, often when people are shot from the front, they pitch forward. The girls were found face down.
Could you point me to where this statement was made from LE or the OSBI? I am not saying it isn't true, but I don't recall reading it either. I would like to clarify it. Thanks!
 
  • #136
Meth Lab Found By Child's Bed

Five people are in the Creek County jail in connection with the purchase of pseudoephedrine.

Creek County Sheriff's Office investigator Michael O'Keefe says deputies with help from Sapulpa Police, arrested the five Tuesday at a home in the 12000 block of West Shaw Drive.

O'Keefe says a search of the home turned up a fully operational clandestine methamphetamine lab inside a child's bedroom.

http://www.newson6.com/Global/story.asp?S=8648610&nav=menu682_2

Meth Labs On The Rise

Posted: July 9, 2008 05:14 PM CDT


Meth labs are making a resurgence in Green Country. Officers say the number of meth labs drastically decreased after Oklahoma passed a law in 2004 that put pseudoephedrine products behind pharmacy counters and required customers to show identification to purchase them.

Creek County deputies and Sapulpa police arrested five people after deputies watched some of them take turns buying pseudoephedrine products twice in one day, so the pills could be used to make meth.

Deputies followed them to a lab inside a house near an elementary school. They say the chemicals were kept in the children's room, next to a child's bed and baby crib.

"We've stopped vehicles with bags of ephedrine in there from Walgreens, Wal-Mart, Med-X, May's, whatever it may be," said Tulsa County Sheriff Cpl. Shane Rhames.

http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=8650136
 
  • #137
Could you point me to where this statement was made from LE or the OSBI? I am not saying it isn't true, but I don't recall reading it either. I would like to clarify it. Thanks!

Oh my goodness! SS, I hope I can find it and didn't dream it. I thought I read, or heard on a video, that they were found face down, one in the road and one in the bar ditch.

:confused:
 
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Oh I feel so sorry for the families of Skyla and Taylor.
 
  • #140
Oh my goodness! SS, I hope I can find it and didn't dream it. I thought I read, or heard on a video, that they were found face down, one in the road and one in the bar ditch.

:confused:

I believe I also recall reading they were found face down, that is the image that remains for me, I musta read it somewhere. I will look also.
 
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