Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #12

[GetSmart]

Wow FC Great Post. Thanks for all the info. You are such a good Sleuther. That explains a lot.

 

[GetSmart]

FlowerChild Posted; Some pretty astounding info here!!!
This is more about the Whitakers and Skyla's Grandparents the Farrows
I am sorry this is so long, but all the information "goes together" and would not make sense in several shorter posts. I will bold the highlights but everyone should read THIS!!!

The Farrows BOTH work for a Mr Chancey, who lives up the road (North of Bad Creek) from the Plackers and owns the house the Plackers live in (the Plackers rent from Mr Chancey). Mr Chancey owns a LOT of property in the area. Skyla's GMa Claudia Farrow is Mr Chancey's housekeeper (not a veterinarian). Mr Farrow (Jimmy) is a handyman/ranch hand for Mr Chancey and also does ranch hand type work for other people in the area. Skyla's mother (Rose Whitaker) stopped by Mr Chancey's house to drop something off to Claudia Farrow and when she was leaving she called the Plackers to say she was coming to pick Skyla up.... she was just a matter of minutes away from where the girls were killed when they were killed.

Mr Chancey is an important connection we didn't have between the Whitakers and The Farrows and the Plackers. It's interesting that the POI was seen very near the Chancey house BEFORE the girls were shot and one or both of the Farrows are there at that location almost daily. Evidently there are rumors that there is (and maybe was previously) some "friction" between the Farrows and the Plackers???

My contact thought it was hysterical that the public thinks Claudia Farrow is a vet - his term for her wasn't rude, but it was derogatory so I won't repeat it here. Let's just say that The Farrows were not highly regarded in the community before this happened and the idea that Claudia got on TV and either said she was a vet or implied that she was and Jimmy was on TV passing judgement on the area by saying it was a "bad, drug infested" place has PO'd most of the people around there. My contact's advice was NOT to believe anything either of them say including that Claudia was allowed to touch or even SEE Skyla's body at the scene. According the LE who were there the whole time, she did not get any closer than the crime scene perimeter, although she tried. She embarrassed Rose (Skyla's Mother).

Jimmy Farrow is NOT Rose's Father. When Claudia Farrow moved to the area several years ago after she married Jimmy Farrow, she did not have custody of her two daughters (Rose and her sister). The local info is that she lost custody - either to DHS or she gave the girls to her sister to raise (maybe DHS took them and gave them to her sister?). Claudia and Jimmy have a son Jimmy Jr, Jimmy is not around and hasn't been for a long time, some people in Weleetka believe he has died. Nobody in Weleetka knew Claudia had daughters until Rose and her husband moved to the area from Kansas with Skyla and her little sister. Big shock to everyone around there.

The Whitakers live next door to the Farrows - over toward Henryetta, OK. I have their location - it's 8 miles South of I-40 near the Indian Nation Turnpike. It's about 10 miles East of the Placker house as the crow flies - probably a 15-20 mile drive though.

Rose Whitaker and her Mother/Stepfather do not really get along that well and the Whitakers are not close (as in family close) to the Farrows. Skyla was not close to the Farrows either. The Whitakers are not dealing with losing Skyla very well. William (Skyla's Stepfather) is the only one my contact says he would trust information from. If William says it, according to my contact, it is correct - and the Whitakers are upset that so much of what is being said is not accurate.

And the last bit - Skyla's brother is indeed in jail in Kansas and has not been in the area. He is going to go to prison. Rose was already very upset about THAT and then Skyla was murdered. The family was dealing with a lot of different family issues and Skyla's murder (and the circumstances) has really pushed them to the edge

Sorry, this is long already but I have to add that we haven't looked into the Farrow's history at all, and not very much into the Whitakers or Rose Whitaker's exes and other children by those fathers - we know the family has been cleared, but that doesn't mean the killer wasn't somebody upset with the Farrows or Whitakers. Where the POI was seen BEFORE the shots were fired was close to the Chancey location where the Farrows worked and where ROSE WHITAKER was when the girls were killed. Could that mean the killer was associated with Skyla and NOT TAYLOR??? Could the killer have KNOWN that Rose was going to pick up Skyla in a few minutes because he saw her car at the Chancey's?? Could the POI (or the killer) have FOLLOWED Rose from the Whitaker/Farrow houses to where Skyla was? Did the killer think the Plackers were related to the Farrows or the Whitakers??? We have assumed it was the Placker family that might have the connection to the killer, because of the proximity to their home, but it turns out that the Farrows worked nearby and Rose Whitaker went to that location before she was to pick up Skyla right down the road. The 3 families were a lot closer and in different ways than just the kids being best friends.

Sleuth away guys!

Again, all info above is from my Weleetka contact - it is not official - just what an informed local person knows but I have checked out the verifiable info - like the locations/owners of property etc and it does check out.

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[Claycat]

FlowerChild, that is absolutely great information! Thank your contact for us! Thank you for posting that here!

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Do you think there is any possibility that the Grandfather saw this POI when he was approaching the murder scene and that is when this person took off? The thing that I keep thinking about is the short time frame in which all of this took place. It would have taken the Grandfather several minutes to walk to where the girls were and he would have been looking down the road as he walked that way. If not, the POI would have had to have been gone already by this time and that would narrow the time down even more.

YellowDog, I am not FlowerChild and I am sure they will answer your question but this is my opinion.

To me one of the best things they have going for them in this case IS the time line. We don't see that many cases that have been narrowed down so tightly so that the ME and LE have the TOD so close. In most cases it is a guesstimated variable time span.

I think OSBI shortly after the murders occurred had their own reenactment experts come in and they took the evidence at the scene, the times that the witnesses said things occurred and what each one of them saw and have defined the time line succinctly. .

This entire path walked was only 1/2 mile long one way. That's it. Locals have said it is only 1/2 a mile to the bridge so from the Placker home to there is the entire overall area they are dealing with.

I do not believe Mr. Placker would have seen the murderer. IMO the girls were already dead when PP tried to call Taylor on her cell phone and it went unanswered. Marc Klass has said before that a person can leave an area, averaging a mile per minute. That would be more than ample time for the perp to flee without being seen by PP but I do think he was seen and it is all around the time frame of approx 5:10 pm when the girls would have had ample time to make it back to the spot they were shot and murdered

I think OSBI has the time line down to almost a science by now and they know, although they will not come out and say it, that this POI was seen by several witnesses in that time period in the targeted area 1/2 mile area. Not one word has ever been said by OSBI that they are looking for anyone else but this POI. That speaks volumes to me.

The witness who saw the girls walking and where has boxed him in even tighter imo because LE will take that sighting/time and they will know how long it would have taken the girls to get to the point where the murders occurred.

imoo

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Riveting information, FlowerChild.

Thank you for sharing any information that you may have from your personal contact. It indeed is enlightening and causes one to .....:waitasec:

imoo

 

[Ruflossn]

Flower Child~
You rock!!!!

Thanks for the information. Do we know Mr. Chancey's first name? I would be interested in knowing more about his personal life / public life.

 

[christine2448]

Awesome sleuthing y'all! Thanks FC for taking all the time and bringing this info to everyone.

 

[TGIRecovered]

FlowerChild, if anyone ever kills me, you are personally invited to snoop around and find the killer. I admire your tenacity.

Susan

 

[gine]

Does anyone know what the brother is in jail for? Wonder if it could be some type of revenge thing going on - especially if he "plea" bargained. I've not kept up with the threads on this case, but when reading FC's long post, that is what hit me.

 

[Clearly Confused]

WOW FlowerChild WOW!!

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Does anyone know what the brother is in jail for? Wonder if it could be some type of revenge thing going on - especially if he "plea" bargained. I've not kept up with the threads on this case, but when reading FC's long post, that is what hit me.

The brother is in jail awaiting sentencing for 2nd Degree Murder. He did a plea deal with the DA that he would testify against the co-defendants and will be sentenced to 10 years. They had originally charged Gordon with 1st Degree also.

He will be sentenced July 29th and the other last defendant did a plea deal last Friday, irrc and will be sentenced to life.

The DA did say though that the sentencing for Gordon could be in September at the same time Graham will be sentenced.

imoo

 

[YellowDog]

There is a Durward Chancey and a Devin Chancey in Weleetka. Maybe father and son?

 

[YellowDog]

Durward Duane Chancey is 76 and his wife's name is Florence A. Chancey.

 

[YellowDog]

Devin D. Chancey is 49, so probably is the son.

 

[YellowDog]

Has anyone besides me ever thought it was strange that Taylor slept on the floor in a sleeping bag? I don't know why, but for some reason that stuck in my mind as being unusual and rather temporary.

 

[Claycat]

Has anyone besides me ever thought it was strange that Taylor slept on the floor in a sleeping bag? I don't know why, but for some reason that stuck in my mind as being unusual and rather temporary.

Kids take their sleeping bags in front of the TV in case they fall asleep watching a late movie. When I was young I used to fall asleep on the couch.

 

[Claycat]

The brother is in jail awaiting sentencing for 2nd Degree Murder. He did a plea deal with the DA that he would testify against the co-defendants and will be sentenced to 10 years. They had originally charged Gordon with 1st Degree also.

He will be sentenced July 29th and the other last defendant did a plea deal last Friday, irrc and will be sentenced to life.

The DA did say though that the sentencing for Gordon could be in September at the same time Graham will be sentenced.

imoo

The fact that he did a plea bargain made me speculate that this might be a motive for payback.

 

[YellowDog]

Hi Ocean:
Thanks for your input. I, too, believe the time line is critical. I don't think this was a sexual crime.......broad daylight and on the side of the road with the possibility of people from the bridge walking by or cars passing. The phone call from the grandfather could actually have come before the shootings. The killer could have said, "Don't answer that."

YellowDog, I am not FlowerChild and I am sure they will answer your question but this is my opinion.

To me one of the best things they have going for them in this case IS the time line. We don't see that many cases that have been narrowed down so tightly so that the ME and LE have the TOD so close. In most cases it is a guesstimated variable time span.

I think OSBI shortly after the murders occurred had their own reenactment experts come in and they took the evidence at the scene, the times that the witnesses said things occurred and what each one of them saw and have defined the time line succinctly. .

This entire path walked was only 1/2 mile long one way. That's it. Locals have said it is only 1/2 a mile to the bridge so from the Placker home to there is the entire overall area they are dealing with.

I do not believe Mr. Placker would have seen the murderer. IMO the girls were already dead when PP tried to call Taylor on her cell phone and it went unanswered. Marc Klass has said before that a person can leave an area, averaging a mile per minute. That would be more than ample time for the perp to flee without being seen by PP but I do think he was seen and it is all around the time frame of approx 5:10 pm when the girls would have had ample time to make it back to the spot they were shot and murdered

I think OSBI has the time line down to almost a science by now and they know, although they will not come out and say it, that this POI was seen by several witnesses in that time period in the targeted area 1/2 mile area. Not one word has ever been said by OSBI that they are looking for anyone else but this POI. That speaks volumes to me.

The witness who saw the girls walking and where has boxed him in even tighter imo because LE will take that sighting/time and they will know how long it would have taken the girls to get to the point where the murders occurred.

imoo

 

[Morag]

From page 2 of this thread, discussing Jerry Patterson, who is an eccentric neighbor of the Plackers:

Originally Posted by LifeSaver
his two daughters were taken from him, and his wife back in the 80s I remember that, the kids went to a couple in Pharoah, OK. didn't they?

From FlowerChild's recent (and very interesting) post:

When Claudia Farrow moved to the area several years ago after she married Jimmy Farrow, she did not have custody of her two daughters (Rose and her sister). The local info is that she lost custody - either to DHS or she gave the girls to her sister to raise (maybe DHS took them and gave them to her sister?).

Now is this just a mere coincidence, or is there any possibility that Jerry Patterson was married to Claudia Farrow?

 

[SailorMoon]

I remember too how I had given up that Shasta and Dylan would ever be found and then bam...out of the blue on a weekend, while checking news on the internet on my phone because I was bored...there's little Shasta found in a Denny's. I keep hoping that is what happens here. But it seemed like forever and I remember that day that Shasta was found so well that you could have knocked me over with a feather!!

**respectfully snipped**

I do remember how disheartened I became when Dylan and Shasta were missing and no news at all was coming out about them. I almost lost hope they would ever be found but it did happen even if it was too late for little Dylan. (RIP, sweetie) They finally got the that destroyed that family.

So it can happen and I hope it does for these families......soon.

imoo