Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #13

[GetSmart]

I have got to go to bed.. but remember they were going to release the tape at one point then the family asked them not to, maybe it took them this long to clean up the tape , or tune into background noise,
SS this is something ..
talk to you guys tomorrow.

 

[RoseRed]

Thanks, Susan and Frog! I am just dumbfounded.

It gives me chills actually. I think it sounds like Peter may be responsible. I do hope I am wrong, but why release even part of his call?! Did he make an incriminating statement during that call? What other reasons could there be?! I can't think of any off hand. Anyone else?

Why do you think that? It is not a chilling to me but does mean to me they are stumped and hope by releasing some part of the tape someone will give them new info. That is exactly what happen here in the Tinley Park , Lane Bryant killings which is still not solved. They did not release any of the 911 tape for a very long time and in my opinion it means they are stalled. They also could have just gotten some forensic info back by now.
I really hate to say this but I think this will become an unsolved cold case just like the Tinly, Lane Byant killings. :frown:

 

[SeriouslySearching]

They said they have new information. It doesn't sound like they are stumped to me! They would not have called a major presser if they were only asking for help, imo. They have news.

 

[GetSmart]

OKEMAH, Okla. -- An OSBI spokeswoman said Monday that her office would not be releasing an "extremely emotional" 911 call because agents don't believe it will advance their efforts to find whoever killed two girls in Okfuskee County on June 8.
Agents Decline To Release 911 Call In Weleetka Killings
http://www.koco.com/news/16623209/detail.html

 

[GetSmart]

http://docapp065p.doc.state.ok.us/s...&first_name=*&last_name=Paschal&SearchAll=ALL

these are all Paschal

560185
AARON PASCHAL White Male
Northeast Oklahoma Corr. Center, Vinita 417504 AUSSIE L PASCHAL American Indian Male
Charles E. 'Bill' Johnson Corr. Center, Alva 148237 CHARLES E PASCHAL JR White Male
INACTIVE 234788 HOWARD D PASCHAL White Male
INACTIVE 573069 JAMES T PASCHAL White Male
Tulsa County District, Tulsa 138783 JIMMY C PASCHAL White Male
INACTIVE 262832 JOE L PASCHAL White Male
INACTIVE 90960 JOE L PASCHAL White Male
Central District - Santa Fe Office, Oklahoma City 131291 JOHN E PASCHAL White Male
Joseph Harp Correctional Center, Lexington 535432 MELISSA PASCHAL American Indian Female
Southeast District Office, Mcalester 137240 PAUL L PASCHAL White Male
INACTIVE 228882 PRESTON R PASCHAL White Male
INACTIVE 210552 ROBERT E PASCHAL White Male
INACTIVE 471225 SHANE M PASCHAL American Indian Male
Central District - Santa Fe Office, Oklahoma City

 

[SeriouslySearching]

OKEMAH, Okla. -- An OSBI spokeswoman said Monday that her office would not be releasing an "extremely emotional" 911 call because agents don't believe it will advance their efforts to find whoever killed two girls in Okfuskee County on June 8.
Agents Decline To Release 911 Call In Weleetka Killings
http://www.koco.com/news/16623209/detail.html

Exactly!! What changed?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Do we know this guy? Tony C. Paschal? What a rap sheet! He was paroled 5-19-08.

http://docapp065p.doc.state.ok.us/s...=PORTAL30&doc_num=96494&offender_book_id=7634

 

[RoseRed]

Exactly!! What changed?

LE have had time to get some of the forensic info back.
The parents/grandparents have has over a month to grieve.
Perhaps to squash some of the child abuse rumors pertaining to the family.

I do know here that did call pressers just to release the sketch, then the tape, kept too much info to themselves. So we will have to wait and see but I for one do not suspect PP of any involvement in this.

edited for spelling

 

[SeriouslySearching]

OK, so the new information could be the forensic results. True. It doesn't explain what could be on the 911 tape. You think they just want people to hear how distraught Peter was? I don't know.

 

[RoseRed]

OK, so the new information could be the forensic results. True. It doesn't explain what could be on the 911 tape. You think they just want people to hear how distraught Peter was? I don't know.

Yes, it keeps the case alive and encourages new tips. I also noticed they said the call was placed " moments " after the bodies were found. Not 10 or 20 minutes like people were trying to imply.

 

[poco]

Yes, it keeps the case alive and encourages new tips. I also noticed they said the call was placed " moments " after the bodies were found. Not 10 or 20 minutes like people were trying to imply.

This case breaks my heart.... Please God, let them find who did this!!!

 

[oceanblueeyes]

The OSBI announces a presser (to begin with...they have refused to say a word now for how long?) and do it so that people have all weekend to prepare (meaning national media given time to get their crews in place) and they now say they are going to release what they believe to be a CRITICAL part of the 911 call we can only assume to be from Peter...and you guys are talking hypothetical bullets?! :bang:

I am sure, as always the press has pressed the issue of public information. They do it in every case so this one would not be any different imo. So OSBI is going to release an excerpt of the 911 call.

Maybe I am just not getting how this is some big news because I have seen other cases where LE did not want to release 911 calls especially if perp was still at large and then rescinded partially and put out an excerpt.

In fact when the 911 call was made by Daniel Horowitz when he found his wife murdered it has never been released. Not even in the trial with the DA wanting it in. The Judge ruled it was way too emotional and would prejudice Dyleski from getting a fair trial.

I think that maybe they are hoping it brings someone out of hiding that is protecting this once they hear the emotional pain this has caused the families.

imoo

 

[Albert18]

I think RoseRed has it right. They are stumped, stalled, dead in the water. This press conference may be nothing more than an attempt to give the public the impression they are doing something and have accomplished something.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

OK, so the new information could be the forensic results. True. It doesn't explain what could be on the 911 tape. You think they just want people to hear how distraught Peter was? I don't know.

At first from what I recall they said they would be discussing the new forensic tests that they have used in this particular case. Must be really high tech then they later said they would be releasing an excerpt of the 911 call. They may have talked with the family on just what part they are going to release and explain to them why they think it may help the case.

Anyway I hope it does.

imoo

 

[Albert18]

I have a co-worker, who lives in the area that stated the day following the murders, "if it were me I would be looking close, very close for the suspects." I am not sure who she was referring to and if the statement implied that family, aquaintences, or neighbors were involved....

I think this comment has a lot of merit.

I still think they need to stop worrying about DNA and worry about people relationships. This wasn't a robbery gone bad like in the Lane Bryant killings. There is a chance it was a failed abduction but I think there is a greater chance it involved a relationship and that can only be figured out by sidling up to people and talking. You can't treat the public with disdain and sidle at the same time. Can't be done.

 

[Claycat]

Hello? (knocking on the mic) Is this thing on? Did you guys see this?!

WTH?! What is on that call that obviously Peter says that OSBI now finds neccessary to report to the public?! I find this to be big since they said they would not be releasing it.

Hi SS! Yes, we saw it! We are all anxious to hear if there is anything significant that they have discovered. I'm doubtful, since they aren't doing it until Monday.

Thanks!

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I think this comment has a lot of merit.

I still think they need to stop worrying about DNA and worry about people relationships. This wasn't a robbery gone bad like in the Lane Bryant killings. There is a chance it was a failed abduction but I think there is a greater chance it involved a relationship and that can only be figured out by sidling up to people and talking. You can't treat the public with disdain and sidle at the same time. Can't be done.

I don't think OSBI would treat this case any different than they investigate all cases and that is starting from the inside first and then widening out. The first thing LE does is investigates anyone who closely or even remotely had a relationship with the victims.

OSBI has commented several times that they have interviewed 100s in this case. I don't think they have been lax at all but are continually still working hard to interview anyone and everyone they can possibly find that will help them solve this case. Just tracking down 450+ leads can be a daunting, time consuming task. I don't think they have let any grass grow under their feet from the moment this crime was known to them.

If they come out again and say they need the public's help then that shows me they desperately want someone to have an ounce of compassion for the situation, hoping that one vital tip will bring them closer to the POI and closer to resolving this case.

I am sure they are bombarded daily by the local are press reporters and it will be very interesting to know what all sophisticated technology they have used in trying to solve this case. It also shows they have been busy working and going forward.

Maybe the release and the information will be put out there like when they released certain things before when they said they wanted the killer to think about just what it means.

imoo

 

[YellowDog]

It will be interesting. Maybe there are some flaws in the timeline between the various so-called witnesses.

 

[Mysterylover]

Thanks, Susan and Frog! I am just dumbfounded.

It gives me chills actually.
I think it sounds like Peter may be responsible.

I do hope I am wrong, but why release even part of his call?! Did he make an incriminating statement during that call?

What other reasons could there be?! I can't think of any off hand. Anyone else?

Has anyone considered, this POI possibly meet or came to see P. and they had a very heated argument and the POI shot the girls when leaving due to what was said in the argument?....thus the 20 minute delay....jmo

 

[Mysterylover]

YellowDog :
You mean shotgun shell casings and bullet casings are the same? I don't really know much about guns. I have a 410 shotgun in my closet that belongs to my son but the ammunition for that gun looks just like a bullet to me.

Check this pic out & see if it helps

Would ALL these casings be considered "high power"? What would LE consider HIGH POWER?

.9mm automatic shells and shotgun shells?

does a "slug" in a shotgun shell look the same and considered high power?

What is considered LOW power? other than a .22?

I assume a deer rifle like a 30.06 would be a high powered gun also.

Does all these shells "eject" out of the gun while firing?...jmo