Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #14

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That would be a HUGE NO-NO! The equivalent of making up an African American POI because the artist happened to be African American. Over 25% of Oklahomans are members of an American Indian Tribe and probably 50% have some Native American blood. The Sketch Artist is himself a high ranking member ( a Peace Chief) of the Cheyenne Tribe and has a traditional Native Amercan family. There is NO WAY he would be a party to such a discriminatory act. The POI was not made up and he exists - but in Oklahoma there are probably 10,000 men who resemble the POI - and only ONE is the POI.

My Opinion

So it is your belief that the police would never put out a false picture of a POI in order to manipulate possible witnesses, to make them feel comfortable? I admit I know nothing about the professional ethics of sketch artists, but would they never work with police to influence the parties to the case? And if a POI was made up out of whole cloth, he would have to be described as having some general appearance. Since (maybe) he doesn't exist, what difference would it make to say he was NA, or whatever? When a suspect is described with my general appearance (middle aged Caucasian woman), it doesn't bother me. Just wondering...I don't think this would disrespect the NA community.
 
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Flowerchild, SeriouslySearching, Get Smart, and others--wow, thanks for these threads and the incredible amount of information and thinking in them.


Yes, this is my first post, but I've been thinking about a scenario to explain locations, motivation, etc. If anyone wants to comment:

I believe that if these two girls came upon someone they knew doing something wrong, that they would act like they knew it, but never even begin to think that they could be killed under the circumstances. I think the girls would have turned around and walked home after saying, like, "<Person's name>, you're in trouble now" or somesuch. I think this is most likely if the person were a family member/close friend.

Now, say that the person is connected to local distribution of drugs. And they were there getting drugs from a major player in drug distribution. The major player may think, those girls have to go. He drives away from the scene, overtakes them on the road, and shoots them there.

<snipped for space>

Well, back to reading. Happy to meet you all. tapu

Makes sense to me.
 
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Tapu :
• The girls were walking back from where they saw whatever it was because nothing would be going down in view of the driveway. That's just where the guy(s) caught up to them.
• The person the girls knew may not have had much to do with the decision to kill them. He tells the girls to go away when they come upon the scene. It's the other guy(s) who care nothing about who the girls are and who think they need to kill them to keep from being described. (or, in that case, maybe the girls knew the id of the person but were not close to them)

Welcome to Websleuths Tapu :)

Very astute observation there. You know in the beginning of this thing we were remarking that it gave us the creeps like in that movie "Old men with no country" if you have seen it you know what I mean. That killer was mean & all about business...of killing what ever got in his way.

I think if it was young kids they would kill animals for thrill or target practice.

But when you explained your thoughts I could see that happening.
The non killer saying "oh those are just the little neighbor girls, they'll forget about it by tomorrow."
But if told them to "shoo get home you little pia's"
The girls reply with "hey your not the boss of me"
Killer saying " you better get out of here I mean it & now"
Girls say " Not ..wait till I tell my dad, you'll be sorry "..

I mean I can really see something like that happen JMO
 
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cloudajo; ]Does anyone know if Angela Herring is still the Mayor of Weleetka?

This article from Oct 2007 was the only reference I could find of her as the mayor.

TIA.

http://newsok.com/article/3160111/1193767534?


WOW cloudjo WTH? Hey locals where are you?
 
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Very astute observation there. You know in the beginning of this thing we were remarking that it gave us the creeps like in that movie "Old men with no country"
"No Country for Old Men" :)
 
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Thank You TG LOL.. Say good nite gracie ...

No hijack intended just WTH?
So here I am looking up stuff about the town mayor & all & found this..
Man o man this is pretty bad. If it is any indication how the little towns are ran in Ok look out

Krebs mayor arrested

http://newsok.com/krebs-mayor-arrested/article/3273266
KREBS, Okla. - The mayor of Krebs has been arrested on a complaint of a convicted felon in possession of firearms.
Krebs Police Chief Dennis Cook says 54-year-old Kent Vicars was taken into custody without incident on Monday.
Vicars was booked at the Pittsburg County Jail on a complaint of possession of firearms after a felony conviction after officers executed a search warrant and found 18 guns.................................................... ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Cooks says officers found rifles, shotguns and pistols at the mayor's residence.
Prosecutors say they plan to file charges of a convicted felon in possession of a police scanner and of firearms.
 
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It's a scenario LE is considering, in releasing that wrenching 911 tape. (i'd think)

(I mean the part about someone they know having been there, but that person not being the perp.)
 
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She isn't the mayor right now, but don't ask me who is I can't remember
 
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Thank You TG LOL.. Say good nite gracie ...

No hijack intended just WTH?
So here I am looking up stuff about the town mayor & all & found this..
Man o man this is pretty bad. If it is any indication how the little towns are ran in Ok look out

Krebs mayor arrested

http://newsok.com/krebs-mayor-arrested/article/3273266
KREBS, Okla. - The mayor of Krebs has been arrested on a complaint of a convicted felon in possession of firearms.
Krebs Police Chief Dennis Cook says 54-year-old Kent Vicars was taken into custody without incident on Monday.
Vicars was booked at the Pittsburg County Jail on a complaint of possession of firearms after a felony conviction after officers executed a search warrant and found 18 guns.................................................... ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Cooks says officers found rifles, shotguns and pistols at the mayor's residence.
Prosecutors say they plan to file charges of a convicted felon in possession of a police scanner and of firearms.

I have said (with fear) from the very beginning, but at Topix, what crooked LE we have in those parts. I wish OSBI would investigate LE in those towns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It may not be OSBI hiding anything, but local LE lying or fumbled up the crime scene from the beginning and gave false reports from that point. Hey, it happens! I could tell you a story or two that would make the hair on your neck stand up!
 
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A friend of mine tried to get OSBI to come in and investigate the murder of her daughter, and LE told them to go away, that they had it under control, it was an accident.
An accident? The woman had her face in a pond, mud all the way up her nostrils and into her throat according to the funeral home, a footprint on her head and footprints in the mud beside her head, according to a friend who was the EMS that was there.... and more. An accident? Wanna go out and let me show ya?!!!!! And OBBI said, "ok" and left. I guess they just have to have faith in fellow LE, huh?
 
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oh.... and a year or so ago, they prosecuted a judge in Creek county for having a sex toy operating on him while he was on the bench. He served time, if I remember right
 
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So if I get killed for saying this.... never fear, it wont be solved (being sarcastic but honest)
 
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ok........... see? No comment. This is why people are afraid of LE and afraid to talk!!!! Does not anyone see this by now? I have been screaching about it off and on for weeks.
 
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ok........... see? No comment. This is why people are afraid of LE and afraid to talk!!!! Does not anyone see this by now? I have been screaching about it off and on for weeks.

Yes, I definitely see.
 
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oh.... and a year or so ago, they prosecuted a judge in Creek county for having a sex toy operating on him while he was on the bench. He served time, if I remember right

well, uh... so the system's working! :bang:
 
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its Carroll Hundleston
 
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Here's something I can't find, even in the latest "catch-up" post:

Where specifically were the girls going and why? I get that they were walking to the bridge, but is there more about that somewhere?

thanx
 
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