Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #15

[Tom'sGirl]

Reading this just sickened me.

We don't know this for fact!

BTW, welcome, from Canada huh?

 

[frogjustfrog]

Reading this just sickened me.

:Welcome-12-june:
So nice to see you here! Was wondering when you would just "have enough" at that one forum.
I am sure you will enjoy it here much better!

 

[Lauren - CA]

Thanks. I've been reading all your posts since Day 1 and finally was able to join the other day. I have to learn how to add all those cute things to my name!

I certainly hope that it is not true that they are gambling with the money or already purchasing expensive vehicles. That would be a shame. I would have hoped that they were given enough to pay for the funerals and what not, but personally I think the balance of the money should go to starting an education fund in their name or towards finding the killer.

 

[Lauren - CA]

:Welcome-12-june:
So nice to see you here! Was wondering when you would just "have enough" at that one forum.
I am sure you will enjoy it here much better!

Thanks so much. Yes, it was getting bad. I've been wanting to join for awhile as I have been reading all the posts since Day 1. I was hoping that this would all be over. Will there ever be justice for these girls?

 

[frogjustfrog]

Thanks so much. Yes, it was getting bad. I've been wanting to join for awhile as I have been reading all the posts since Day 1. I was hoping that this would all be over. Will there ever be justice for these girls?

Oh, there will be justice. I just hope the only justice isnt just the one that will come, Judgment Day! Either way, justice will be served.
Laren, this posting forum is much different in the way that alot of the time there are not that many people at one time posting, therefore, it could be even a day or more until you get a response to a posting if it is directed at a person in particular.
Topix is more like a chat room, but vulgar. Well, I'm not well acquainted with chatrooms so I cant even say that for sure, but most the postings here are direct to the case, and there is no tolarance for the behavior that goes on other places. So, I do believe you will find it much more informative and to the point. We have posters here who are really good sleuthers and the information they pull up is very interesting. It would be a good idea to go to the different threads and read any links that may be there that you have not seen yet, as I gained much more useful information here than anywhere else.

 

[GetSmart]

Hi Frog.. It sure gets sad everyday checking & nothing doen't it

 

[Claycat]

It is very sad!

 

[Annie]

This article tells about the outpouring from people who were touched by this case. An article that follows it shows that the families are also eligible for up to $20,000 from a Victim Fund. I hope the families are using this money wisely. There are so many good people who want to help, but don't want to see the money squandered.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=20080613_12_A1_hHorri744509

 

[GetSmart]

It is like I said before I would use some of that $$ for a private eye..

 

[GetSmart]

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,,660207399,00+en-USS_01DBC.html
Gang expert blames violence on mass media

The Virginia resident gives talks to juveniles and parents around the nation on youth culture, media influence, teen violence and drugs.

In addition to the music, the average juvenile receives more than 1,600 images each day, he said.
Many of those images are pornographic, while a lot of the music glamorizes sex, drug use and violence.
"
It's not just the music they're listening to, it's part of a creed. They're saying this is what I believe in life," he said.
The mass media, whether it be music, television, movies or video games, desensitizes juveniles, Holland said. He specifically singled out a group known as Juggalos, or fans of the rap group Insane Clown Posse, or ICP. He called Juggalos extremely violent and aggressive. ICP and their Juggalo followers have been around since the early to mid-90s But it's only been during the past few years they've become a noticeable problem in Utah
"We've been following this group since 2004," said West Valley police detective John LeFavor.

LeFavor talked about the Juggalo problem before a packed room Thursday during one of the conference's two hour workshops.
Just like straight edgers, groups who belong to a Juggalo gang started off simply as fans of the music. Police struggled with whether this group should be classified as gang members or simply music fans similar to Deadheads. But because some members engaged in a pattern of criminal activity and intimidated their communities, they were classified as a gang, LeFavor said.
Today, there are an estimated 3,000 to 4,000 Juggalos in Utah. About 70 percent of them are simply fans of the music who live the lifestyle preached in the music, which includes drinking, pot smoking and sex, he said.
"I don't believe the majority of them are gang members. They're right on the edge," LeFavor said.
But about 15 percent are involved in criminal gang activity and overshadowing the rest of the Juggalos who may be peaceful, LeFavor said.
Gang cops call Juggalos a fast-growing problem in Utah.
In one case, a Juggalo group from Jefferson Junior High School was busted for committing burglaries within the school, he said. Between 50 and 90 percent of Juggalos carry weapons, LeFavor said. In 2005, a Granger High School student who threatened to take guns to school and harm teachers and students was arrested. Weapons and a lot of Juggalo paraphernalia were found at his house, LeFavor said.

 

[Okie ties]

I've been off for a few days and like most of you, am saddened to log on and find no real updates. As I've read through the log, I kept asking myself, what can I do to help further this case? Part of me wants to drive back to Oklahoma, where I just came from, with a video camera and try to find ways to increase the media awareness. Another part of me wants to find a way to draw attention to the reward and help it increase exponentially assuming at some price some one will talk. I will willing to donate money directly to the reward fund. Anyone have any ideas about how to publicize this and try to draw other donations quickly?

 

[GetSmart]

I am being a smart here.. but see if The families are willing to use some of the victim fund $$ to hire a PR person.. But no kidding that is what is needed in order to draw attention since no one in these families except for Uncle Joe are media hounds

 

[Tom'sGirl]

I am being a smart here.. but see if The families are willing to use some of the victim fund $$ to hire a PR person.. But no kidding that is what is needed in order to draw attention since no one in these families except for Uncle Joe are media hounds

Some of the money? they should be offering it all IMO.

They should be planting themselves in front of LE facilities & City Hall with signs to get some Media attention.

 

[Okie ties]

Some of the money? they should be offering it all IMO.

They should be planting themselves in front of LE facilities & City Hall with signs to get some Media attention.

Yes... that's the part I don't get. How can I/we be more emotionally involved and outraged than this family? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, irregardless of income level and means. If Linda Kaye Placker has the aptitude and adeptness to publish poems and pictures to a website, she clearly could gain media attention through that same vehicle or many different ones... how about youtube? Haven't we all thought of the video we'd post if we were in that same situation, crying out for media help and begging for LE information? Or could it be that the LE has provided the family some information reassuring them they are close to arresting the suspect(s) and advising them that by going public they could potentially risk this investigation? We want the truth! Would an editorial letter stating our confusion and concern to all the Gaylord publications get any attention?

- Signed, FEELING FRUSTRATED that parents/grandparents are willing to move but not willing to scream at the top of the lungs to catch a killer :furious: :yuck:

 

[GetSmart]

[Okie ties;Yes... that's the part I don't get. How can I/we be more emotionally involved and outraged than this family? IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, irregardless of income level and means. If Linda Kaye Placker has the aptitude and adeptness to publish poems and pictures to a website, she clearly could gain media attention through that same vehicle or many different ones...
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Okie OH YES ....I have thought the same thing... no she wants post Mug Shots & recall "all the good times" with the folks in the mugs shots .

This whole thing is stinking to high heaven. I am very uncomfortable with this entire situation.

I am a little late but welcome to WS :woohoo:

 

[Okie ties]

Thank you Get Smart. I value your comments and opinions.

 

[LifeSaver]

I am clueless to why, I guess they needed a new SUV...a sporty one.

 

[LifeSaver]

IMO, I believe it's because the killers are among their young people. Lions will protect their cubs.

I like your littlt turtle...its so cute. Where did you get it

 

[Lauren - CA]

It is very sad!

By the way Claycat, I absolutely love your butterfly/turtle pic. What a wonderful tribute to two beautiful little girls. May they never be forgotten.

 

[frogjustfrog]

Did we ever find out for sure that there was any kind of body fluid on or near the girls?
The thought sickens me. Maybe it was vomit when GP came up on them. I could understand that.