Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #15

[frogjustfrog]

Carl L and Ruby (Moore) Paschal

Son Tony Carl Paschal age 54 (wife of 35 years is Linda B Jenkins) - Jennifer Juanita age 33 is their daughter
Daughter Vickie Ann Paschal age 48 husband Peter S Placker age 49

Ruby's Son (???) Joe Mosher age 59

Vicky Paschal-Placker is definitely Tony's SISTER, not his ex wife. Tony has been married to Linda for 35 years, Jennifer Juanita is their daughter and she is 33.


Carl Paschal's Brother is Joel Paschal married to Lorene

Their children are
Jimmy Carl Paschal age 54
Troy J Paschal age 46
Cecil Lee Paschal age 58
Patricia Paschal Walker Sexton age 46
Esther Paschal age 52
John Eugene Paschal age 44

I have the entire family (Paschal and Placker) mapped out pretty thoroughly (let me know if you want it) - and it isn't easy - there are a BUNCH of Paschals and an even BIGGER BUNCH of Plackers. It's really confusing when you start looking up criminal records under the two names - you need a family tree to figure out everyone's relationship. And even with all the work I don't know exactly how Joe Mosher is Vicky and Tony's (Half) brother Or how Lanita Sue Bateman (Baby Cousin Nita doing life) is a cousin but she LaNita is definitely related to Peter And Vicky somehow - same address comes up for both in the past - Nora O Bateman (57) is her Mother.

I bet the reunions are mucho interesting

My Opinion

Ok.... call me a dummy, I keep pointing something out, but get no answer so obviously I am missing something.

Tony Paschal, Vicky's brother and his wife, Linda, of 35 years, have a daughter named Jennifer Juanita (I am assuming Juanita is her middle name and her last name is Paschal.

In Taylor's obit with Shurden's, it lists Jennifer Paschal as her sister. Does she have a sister named Jennifer Paschal, and a first cousin by her mother's (biological grandmother) brother Tony, who also has a daughter named Jennifer with a middle name of Juanita.

So what is the middle name of Taylor's sister, Jennifer Paschal?

Is her cousin, her adopted sister?

 

[frogjustfrog]

FC.... I am interested in seeing what you have mapped out. Please and thank you!

 

[frogjustfrog]

Let me preface this by saying I think topix is full of nuts and while I do continue read it to search for additional clues, I don't generally believe the majority of it. HOWEVER, when I further searched the post referencing a yahoo id, I found an old Xanga profile that listed an MSN/hotmail id, as well as the name Shawn and a birthdate of 9/4/1992. That led me to a youtube account that is current as well as current On Live, Steam, Yahoo and MYSPACE account links. The myspace profile opening page lists a male, age 18, from HELL, texas and his profile comment says "I got something to say! I killed your baby today, and it doesn't matter much to me as long as its dead."
I have no idea what if anything this means.

This is getting more confusing by the minute. Brother and sister, each have a daughter named Jennifer Paschal. No one knows the biological mother of Taylor Dawn Paschal Placker, and now this stuff above!
I think I need a rest. It is not uncommon for family to take in or adopt children of other family members. I just wish I KNEW how it fits.

 

[GetSmart]

Originally Posted by Okie ties Let me preface this by saying I think topix is full of nuts and while I do continue read it to search for additional clues, I don't generally believe the majority of it. HOWEVER, when I further searched the post referencing a yahoo id, I found an old Xanga profile that listed an MSN/hotmail id, as well as the name Shawn and a birthdate of 9/4/1992. That led me to a youtube account that is current as well as current On Live, Steam, Yahoo and MYSPACE account links. The myspace profile opening page lists a male, age 18, from HELL, texas and his profile comment says "I got something to say! I killed your baby today, and it doesn't matter much to me as long as its dead."
I have no idea what if anything this means.

Now that is spooky. What in the world?
By the way great job Okie

 

[Okie ties]

Now that is spooky. What in the world?
By the way great job Okie

Thanks GS, at this point it's probably just a shot in the dark.

 

[ArizonaGiGi]

Here's another article from June 11th I thought was interesting. A message from Claudia Farrow for other moms. It reads like Rose (as the mom) may have had a bad feeling or doubts about Skyla being at Taylor's that weekend, doesn't it? Skyla had slept over Taylor's before, so was something different about that weekend?

It stuck out to me.

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Momlogic also spoke with Skyla Jade Whitaker's grandmother, 58-year-old Claudia Farrow, who had this message for other moms: "Keep your kids close. Never feel like you can let them out of your sight. And if you do take your child somewhere and levave them and you don't feel right about it, then go back and get them. You never know what can happen."


http://www.momlogic.com/2008/06/slaying_victims_grandma_keep_y.php

 

[FlowerChild]

Ok.... call me a dummy, I keep pointing something out, but get no answer so obviously I am missing something.

Tony Paschal, Vicky's brother and his wife, Linda, of 35 years, have a daughter named Jennifer Juanita (I am assuming Juanita is her middle name and her last name is Paschal.

In Taylor's obit with Shurden's, it lists Jennifer Paschal as her sister. Does she have a sister named Jennifer Paschal, and a first cousin by her mother's (biological grandmother) brother Tony, who also has a daughter named Jennifer with a middle name of Juanita.

So what is the middle name of Taylor's sister, Jennifer Paschal?

Is her cousin, her adopted sister?

No Jennifer Juanita Paschal (Custer) (B:1976) is Tony and Linda Paschal's daughter, Jennifer M Paschal (Brown) (Holland) (B: 1975) is Vicky and Peter Placker's daughter. They both have the same 1st name and are 1st cousins

 

[Imjen]

Let me preface this by saying I think topix is full of nuts and while I do continue read it to search for additional clues, I don't generally believe the majority of it. HOWEVER, when I further searched the post referencing a yahoo id, I found an old Xanga profile that listed an MSN/hotmail id, as well as the name Shawn and a birthdate of 9/4/1992. That led me to a youtube account that is current as well as current On Live, Steam, Yahoo and MYSPACE account links. The myspace profile opening page lists a male, age 18, from HELL, texas and his profile comment says "I got something to say! I killed your baby today, and it doesn't matter much to me as long as its dead."
I have no idea what if anything this means.

Hello!
I'm excited to have something to post (this is my first)!
Those are song lyrics quoted in his profile. By The Misfits, I think?

Back to reading!

 

[Busylady]

FC, I just think its something we are gonna have to agree to disagree on lol. It is so confusing and have multiply marriages and step children etc. In the big picture I do not think it is going to make a difference but I have some of the following that is different than your records.

Tony Paschal born 12/17/1956 (51 yrs of age vs your 54 yrs of age)
I show him married to a Teresa Brown (49 yrs of age) show them married in 1981.

I show Linda B. Jenkins (54) married to George R. Jenkins (53) married 7/8/1972 and possible roomates to Tony Paschal.

Carl Lee Paschal brothers and sisters

Joe Lee Paschal vs Joel 11/9/1929 - 10/11/2002 m Lorene Prock 3/3/1933-6/18/2007
one of Joe's sons Cecil Paschal 6/27/1950 - 4/8/1999 (murdered)
another son passed early Troy Paschal 6/15/1962 - 7/21/2005
Joyce Paschal
Ozella Paschal
Ola Paschal
Sharon Paschal

I cant find how Nora Bateman is connected either, but she is connected to Danny, Robert, and Jimmy Bateman and you would need an entire month to track all the criminal stuff there as well.

FC you have done an amazing job tracking the family, we just have some different information which makes us come to different conclusions.

 

[Busylady]

Jennifer M Paschal 2/23/1975 mother is Lynda (Frances) Paschal 9/26/1947 and her father is Charles Eugene Paschal 1/24/1943 they were married in Grayson Texas 3/28/1969.

No Jennifer Juanita Paschal (Custer) (B:1976) is Tony and Linda Paschal's daughter, Jennifer M Paschal (Brown) (Holland) (B: 1975) is Vicky and Peter Placker's daughter. They both have the same 1st name and are 1st cousins

 

[Trino]

I flit between monitoring WS and Topix (if I can stand it). Roy on Topix occasionally has some interesting comments. His latest is a rumor that the hard drive was damaged by OSBI, and they were unable to boot up the Placker computer.

Now, of course, we don't know if this is true, but since we've heard nothing, maybe it is true.

 

[christine2448]

I flit between monitoring WS and Topix (if I can stand it). Roy on Topix occasionally has some interesting comments. His latest is a rumor that the hard drive was damaged by OSBI, and they were unable to boot up the Placker computer.

Now, of course, we don't know if this is true, but since we've heard nothing, maybe it is true.

Interesting this would come up..I read an article this morning about computer forensics...this case was mentioned , I guess because the story originates in this area, (sorry if this is what you are discussing, popping in and out while at work)

'Deleted' clues help solve state crimes

*snip

When homicide detectives have exhausted all leads, they might look at e-mails sent by the victim, what cell phone calls were made or even the person's Internet history, Holland said.
Such was the case in Weleetka, where Taylor Paschal-Placker, 13, and Skyla Whitaker, 11, were shot to death June 8 on a rural road.
Investigators confiscated several computers the girls might have used to determine whether they could develop any leads, Kennedy said.
He would not say whether the computers have aided in the investigation, but said it never hurts to have one extra tool. "If agents solve the case in two or three days without the computer, then fine,” Kennedy said. "But if they run out of leads, then we can break into the computer and at least get the address book and take a look at e-mails and Web history and see if there is something there that will provide a lead.”

 

[YellowDog]

Carl L and Ruby (Moore) Paschal

Son Tony Carl Paschal age 54 (wife of 35 years is Linda B Jenkins) - Jennifer Juanita age 33 is their daughter
Daughter Vickie Ann Paschal age 48 husband Peter S Placker age 49

Ruby's Son (???) Joe Mosher age 59

Vicky Paschal-Placker is definitely Tony's SISTER, not his ex wife. Tony has been married to Linda for 35 years, Jennifer Juanita is their daughter and she is 33.


Carl Paschal's Brother is Joel Paschal married to Lorene

Their children are
Jimmy Carl Paschal age 54
Troy J Paschal age 46
Cecil Lee Paschal age 58
Patricia Paschal Walker Sexton age 46
Esther Paschal age 52
John Eugene Paschal age 44

I have the entire family (Paschal and Placker) mapped out pretty thoroughly (let me know if you want it) - and it isn't easy - there are a BUNCH of Paschals and an even BIGGER BUNCH of Plackers. It's really confusing when you start looking up criminal records under the two names - you need a family tree to figure out everyone's relationship. And even with all the work I don't know exactly how Joe Mosher is Vicky and Tony's (Half) brother Or how Lanita Sue Bateman (Baby Cousin Nita doing life) is a cousin but she LaNita is definitely related to Peter And Vicky somehow - same address comes up for both in the past - Nora O Bateman (57) is her Mother.

I bet the reunions are mucho interesting

My Opinion

Could Lanita possibly be Juanita's real name. You know how some kids want to change their names as they get older............maybe a combination of Linda/Juanita?

 

[YellowDog]

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=20080727_12_A1_hWELEE443106

According to this article in a Tulsa newspaper on 7-27-08, Joe Mosher was at work when he heard the 911 call and then went home. He also states that Vicky made the call.
How would he hear the 911 call?

 

[Trino]

Interesting this would come up..I read an article this morning about computer forensics...this case was mentioned , I guess because the story originates in this area, (sorry if this is what you are discussing, popping in and out while at work)'Deleted' clues help solve state crimes

*snip

IMO if the hard drive was NOT damaged, nothing of interest was found. It would not take long to trace an email. I think the same can be said of the funeral guest book.

Don't you mildly suspect that someone local knows or suspects something, even if the killers weren't local but just won't talk because the people in the area are so closely knit?

 

[SailorMoon]

That is so very true -- worth repeating. Whoever did this to these 2 girls, is as cold blooded and as heartless as you can get. OSBI has been trumped.
So - now what???

**respectfully snipped**

Yes, it's true there isn't any new news on this case, but that is OSBI's fault. They thought they held the trump card when they played that 911 call. Any one that could face two girls and shoot then point blank like they did, does not care about Vicky crying to the 911 operator.....even if they are related. Sorry.

 

[Trino]

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=20080727_12_A1_hWELEE443106

According to this article in a Tulsa newspaper o 7-27-08, Joe Mosher was at work when he heard the 911 call and then went home. He also states that Vicky made the call.
How would he hear the 911 call?

Probably on the news, like the rest of us. Did you also notice in one sentence he says they're worried because OSBI is taking so long: in the next sentence he praises them for doing a great job.

 

[YellowDog]

Probably on the news, like the rest of us. Did you also notice in one sentence he says they're worried because OSBI is taking so long: in the next sentence he praises them for doing a great job.

I did see that and thought it was strange. I didn't think they released the 911 call right away.....I thought it was several days later so couldn't understand how he could have heard it the day of the murders.

 

[Mysterylover]

This is weird.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/wele...HAR4RS395/p402

Read post #9351....

CC... I'm a little too late to read post #9351, on Topix...

This is also weird..It seems post from 9346 thru 9352 have been deleted.

IF the post wasn't rude or obscene, then why would it be deleted?....jmo

 

[Mysterylover]

That is so very true -- worth repeating.

Whoever did this to these 2 girls, is as Cold Blooded and as Heartless as you can get.
OSBI has been trumped.
So - now what???

I want to ad, the killer is a weak low-down, spineless, COWARD...
I pray LE finds this TRASH soon...

We as a society should bring back the "firing squad", for this type of crime,
I can't see my hard earned tax money supporting this monster for the rest of his/her/their life....jmo