Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #19

[Lauren - CA]

Look at the one for Dustin Osmond. Why is there no info in it? Arrest was today.

 

[Lauren - CA]

I think the image of total jock to total pothead would be difficult to pull off:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=388706692

How can you even read anything on that page???

RPS, this is OT but what do you do for a living?? LOL. How do you find all this stuff?

 

[Lauren - CA]

RPS, What does DOC Contract mean??

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Albert, I totally agree w/ your analysis. I believe they have DNA but, I do not think it matches any DNA that has been previously entered into the data base. I also am not convinced there are 2 shooters. If there were, I believe we would have had one "turning" on the other. Just as you stated above. I think the 911 call and the billboard are to try and beget an emotional response out of someone. I hope the ploy works.

Hi Ruflossn!

When they said that it was very early in the investigation. I think they were hoping since they had bullet casings that it might yield fingerprints. However it really is very hard to obtain prints off of such a small casing and the casing has oils that can come from the gun being cleaned and that will destroy prints. Also they may have thought DNA would be found under the girls fingernails. That may have not panned out or the DNA may have been too degraded. Personally I don't think the killers ever touched the girls.

At first I thought it was one shooter but over time it just makes more sense to me that it was two who shot almost in tandem and fled quickly.

I am not ruling anyone in or anybody out except family members but I do think that when these killers are found they will be young in age...from 18 to 20ish.

imoo

 

[oceanblueeyes]

/// NEWS FLASH ///

"WINDY ESPINOSA" from the GJ was arrested yesterday:

http://okokmulgee.jailsoftware.com/inmateroster.asp

Wow, think LE is trying to rachet up the pressure some?

 

[black poodle]

i read or heard somewhere that Pete and Vickie moved is this true? i certantely would not blame them if they did. I wonder who Vicki is so afraid of its not like if these people are local that they don't know who she is, just wondering why she didn't want her face shown on camera. Has Skyla's parents made a public statement yet? I would think maybe if they were more vocal this case would get the attention it deserves. These b@$(#%#* need to be caught and locked up before they hurt anyone else, I would be scared to death id I lived near there

 

[Ruflossn]

Hi Ruflossn!

When they said that it was very early in the investigation. I think they were hoping since they had bullet casings that it might yield fingerprints. However it really is very hard to obtain prints off of such a small casing and the casing has oils that can come from the gun being cleaned and that will destroy prints. Also they may have thought DNA would be found under the girls fingernails. That may have not panned out or the DNA may have been too degraded. Personally I don't think the killers ever touched the girls.

At first I thought it was one shooter but over time it just makes more sense to me that it was two who shot almost in tandem and fled quickly.

I am not ruling anyone in or anybody out except family members but I do think that when these killers are found they will be young in age...from 18 to 20ish.

imoo

Hi Ocean~
Excellent post as always.
Where do you think the POI fits into all of this? He is described as older than 18 -20.

Flossie

 

[Ruflossn]

Wow, think LE is trying to rachet up the pressure some?

My thoughts exactly.
What were the charges that Ms. Espinoza incurred? I looked at the website and could not decipher it................

 

[frogjustfrog]

I think the image of total jock to total pothead would be difficult to pull off:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=388706692

I could see it happening quite easliy. I grew up in the area. Sounds like alot of kids from that area. They think the pot thing makes them kewl.

 

[Ruflossn]

This is what Windy Espinoza has been charged with:
"CITY OF OKMULGEE CHARGES"

It seems like a pretty generic charge. Any thoughts?

 

[cloudajo]

This is what Windy Espinoza has been charged with:
"CITY OF OKMULGEE CHARGES"

It seems like a pretty generic charge. Any thoughts?

Flossie, interesting. I guess we have to wait and see when it shows up in court records?

 

[Ruflossn]

Flossie, interesting. I guess we have to wait and see when it shows up in court records?

Good Morning Cloud~
Yes, I guess we will have to wait. Patience is not my strong suit. lol

 

[cloudajo]

I could see it happening quite easliy. I grew up in the area. Sounds like alot of kids from that area. They think the pot thing makes them kewl.

Frog, good point.

Here is the info for each “Aaron” page. Note sign up date and last login of first one. Open the link for a closeup pic of each. Do we think these the same guy or not?

aaron
Male
18 years old
HENRYETTA, Oklahoma
United States
Sign Up Date: 6/11/2008
Last Login: 6/22/2008

my name is aaron, and i am athletic, and relaxed and i am 18 yrs. of age

Close Up Pic: http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=388706692&albumID=408874&imageID=2004138


Aaron
"what up"
Male
18 years old
HENRYETTA, Oklahoma
United States
Sign Up Date: 09/24/08
Last Login: 9/29/2008

I am 18 yrs of age, and i love football, and i just like hanging out with friends

Close Up Pic: http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=416455645&albumID=0&imageID=991035

 

[cloudajo]

RPS, good find on the myspace.

So that was posted June 14th.

Nick Burden (Audrey's little brother)
Jeremy Wilbanks

I couldn't find anything on them, has anyone? Maybe someone on Topix would know the names.

 

[cloudajo]

Good Morning Cloud~
Yes, I guess we will have to wait. Patience is not my strong suit. lol

Hi Flossie, me neither!

 

[cloudajo]

i read or heard somewhere that Pete and Vickie moved is this true? i certantely would not blame them if they did. I wonder who Vicki is so afraid of its not like if these people are local that they don't know who she is, just wondering why she didn't want her face shown on camera. Has Skyla's parents made a public statement yet? I would think maybe if they were more vocal this case would get the attention it deserves. These b@$(#%#* need to be caught and locked up before they hurt anyone else, I would be scared to death id I lived near there

black poodle, I believe Skyla's father was in a news video within this past month.

 

[cloudajo]

Hey everyone,

I have a summary of early (June) rumors/hearsay/News Report/OSBI Press Conf.

Should I post it in here or create a separate thread so we can reference when needed? It doesn't really fit into Rumors thread since it's a combo.

 

[Ruflossn]

Hey everyone,

I have a summary of early (June) rumors/hearsay/News Report/OSBI Press Conf.

Should I post it in here or create a separate thread so we can reference when needed? It doesn't really fit into Rumors thread since it's a combo.

I like the idea of a new thread. Maybe we could have one for each month since the girls murders? jmo.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

i read or heard somewhere that Pete and Vickie moved is this true? i certainly would not blame them if they did. I wonder who Vicki is so afraid of its not like if these people are local that they don't know who she is, just wondering why she didn't want her face shown on camera. Has Skyla's parents made a public statement yet? I would think maybe if they were more vocal this case would get the attention it deserves. These b@$(#%#* need to be caught and locked up before they hurt anyone else, I would be scared to death id I lived near there

I think they have moved. I understand why.

I think these families are scared to death. I can't even begin to comprehend my child and her friend being brutally murdered but what is just as torturous is they have no clue who the monsters are but they know they still remain loose. They really have to be fearful of people that even pretend to be their friends as well as others they don't know well in their community. How in the world do they know who to trust?

I do think OSBI is right and it is someone from that community or surrounding community.

I don't believe Rose has made a public statement. Her husband who had adopted Skyla has talked on occasion like Pete Placker has done.

I can certainly see why they are fearful and the entire community too. If this can happen to Skyla and Taylor this can happen to anyone.

I pray someone breaks and can't live with what they know or what they did. Maybe OSBI can ratchet up the pressure on some that they have suspicions about.

imoo

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Hi Ocean~
Excellent post as always.
Where do you think the POI fits into all of this? He is described as older than 18 -20.

Flossie

Good Morning, Flossie and Everyone!

Well I tell you this...more and more I am wanting to know who gave the most information to assist the artist with this composite. We really don't know if he went back to each one of them and asked them if the sketch was right.

Did one person say they saw him this well and the others just saw him from afar? I sure would like to know the answer to that one. lol

I do think he fits into this somewhere though but I don't think he is in his 30s but younger..maybe 20s. I think he may have been on that road with the killers. Either meeting with them for some reason but something that makes them all be on that road at the same time right at the crime scene area.

imoo