Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #3

[TisHerself]

Did they even show the composite drawing?

imoo

No, it was really short only about 5 mins, I was surprised, they showed the girls pictures, and the dirt road they were killed on. They just asked anyone with info to call.

 

[EnvoyDriver61]

Since LE claims to know fairly precisely when the girls where killed, the witness must have noticed the suspicious activity and for whatever reason also looked at the clock or watch or something.

So, I suspect the POI, if involved in the killings hadn't done so yet when spotted by the witness. What we don't know is if the witness who gave the POI description also gave the information that they saw the girls a few minutes before the shootings.

What I see is witness driving north on county line road between 5:15 and 5:25 or so. He passes the truck stopped about 1/4 mile on the left from Taylor's house. He passes the girls a few hundred feet further north on the road coming back from the bridge. If it's the same guy. The timing of the release of the sketch, the notification of a witness, and notification that someone saw the girls moments before they were killed help establish the timeline, whatever it is.

I'm beginning to believe that grandpa saw more than we think he saw too.

 

[CarpeDiem]

AMW didn't say very much, just that the two girls were shot to death on a dirt road, and that Taylor's grandfather found them They did say that the police are saying they believe there were two suspects involved in the shooting.

That was such a lame segment, I was surprised for it being AMW. It's like it was taped days ago and not updated with the drawing, etc. :waitasec:

 

[TisHerself]

That was such a lame segment, I was surprised for it being AMW. It's like it was taped days ago and not updated with the drawing, etc. :waitasec:

I know! weird.

 

[harleysnana]

I'm beginning to believe that grandpa saw more than we think he saw too.

I agree!

 

[Snowlover77]

I have to pipe in again. I have been thinking about the weapon used to kill. Guns imo many times indicate premeditation. The timeline being so small, seems the perps or perp would have to almost be lying in wait. I have also been thinking about the girls families...is there something in the background perhaps that spawned this event? It is almost too wild to think this is a random shooting. I believe it has the ring of up close and personal.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

That was such a lame segment, I was surprised for it being AMW. It's like it was taped days ago and not updated with the drawing, etc. :waitasec:

I just cant believe it. Do they know something we don't know? You would think of all things, they would have rushed to put the sketch out over everything else.:waitasec:

 

[brighidin]

I've been reading the threads but don't really have much to add, plus I'm kind of new to all this. I'm also watching AMW and was disappointed in the segment. They really should have shown the sketch...I mean isn't that the point?! Maybe they will show it again before the show ends.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I have to pipe in again. I have been thinking about the weapon used to kill. Guns imo many times indicate premeditation. The timeline being so small, seems the perps or perp would have to almost be lying in wait. I have also been thinking about the girls families...is there something in the background perhaps that spawned this event? It is almost too wild to think this is a random shooting. I believe it has the ring of up close and personal.

I do believe that this entire thing happened in a short period of time. I think he had already seen the girls going to the bridge and something ignited his murderous plan....he targeted those little girls for some reason.

I believe he left in his vehicle once that happen whatever it was and then parked in the middle of the road waiting for them to approach. That is why he was seen leaning on his truck outside of it. Yes, he was laying in wait.

I think they had some kind of interaction on the girls trip TO the bridge.

I think the time line is so tight because he decided to murder them very soon after seeing them.

I don't think this is an up close and personal crime. I think this was an execution devised by a very evil mind.

imoo

 

[FlowerChild]

The person in the SO Registry does not resemble the sketch IMO. The description is very specific - the POI is described and shown clearly as a Native American (American Indian) male with the appropriate coloring (skin tone) and black (not brown) hair and brown eyes. Full blooded Native Americans have very black straight hair - it is typically not curly, although it can be coarse in texture. They also tend to have very little or no facial or body hair. We should focus on the description (from more than one person) and sketch - which are VERY CLEAR that this person APPEARS to be a Native American, down to the hair and eye color.

I am SURE every sex offender from the immediate area has been looked at in depth already. I am not convinced this is AT ALL a sexually motivated crime. There is no reason for a sex offender to risk everything being SEEN in broad daylight on a fairly busy road 300 yards from a house shooting down two girls with multiple shots if he hadn't even touched them sexually and they didn't know him (so as to ID him). The ONLY way it was a Sex Offender is if they KNEW HIM and could ID him to an adult AND he drives around with a couple of guns on him everywhere. The girls were NOT assaulted and the Perp would KNOW there was no DNA to link him to these girls - why kill them? There just is no sensible motivation, even for a pervert sicko. Sex offenders usually don't kill victims before they assault them - and he could have grabbed one or both of the girls easily and killed them later - after the rape/torture, whatever his thing was.

Any men in the girl's lives anywhere matching the description should have already been checked out by LE - how many men of that description could have even met either girl anywhere and been known to either of them? The list cannot be too long.

This murder reeks to me of:
a cover-up of something else (an accidental shooting, an unrelated crime)
a tweaked out paranoid meth addict who felt "trapped" somehow
a "payback" for something unrelated to the girls themselves (except to cause one of their family members pain)
a real life version of some video game or online game
a "for hire" killing (for profit or for revenge)

Somebody shot down "hit man style" two "tweenaged" young ladies (at 11 and 13 they were a bit older than little "children") - who had NOT been sexually assaulted - who had gone from home a short distance and only been gone out of "sight" 30-35 minutes - walking side-by-side - carrying a cell phone. And this was not such a remote area that they weren't seen on their "jaunt" either - the POI was seen by at least 6 people - probably at least that many saw the girls too.

There is SOMETHING we are NOT being told about this - and a theory we are not hearing. They may have cleared all the immediate family members but that does NOT mean that someone didn't do it to "punish" one of them for something (real or imagined). Otherwise it was one of those senseless totally random crimes that we will never understand and we may never know who did it, or WHY? I think LE is onto to something - but what it is may surprise us.

My Opinion

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Welcome to WS, Brighidin~ Maybe they will add to it...I sure hope so. I was counting on them to really show something, but not yet. Almost over tho.

You have been busy! Thanks, Cloud! Huge help! I haven't stopped to go through all those, but I will. Ever get tired of seeing these 's faces knowing what they did and that they are now back on the street? I have to take them in small doses.

 

[Beyond Belief]

Is the witness saying:

saw girls, then saw poi. was witness heading toward girls home? so the poi was between the walking girls and their home?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

You know, Flower...you could be mistaken about him not being on the SO registry. If it was a failed abduction attempt, he could very well be a SO. Also, even a drug related crime could fall back to a past SO because of not being able to find a job. Don't tell us to not cover ALL the bases. While we know that no sexual assault took place, we do not know the motive here.

Of course, there is a lot they are not telling us and it is starting to irritate the hell out of me. I think they have a working theory in place and are actively tracking it down with the information provided from various sources. They also have had many tips called in and we don't know where those are leading them. Simple questions could be answered, but either the reporters aren't asking the questions we want answered or they have refused to let go of the information.

I went to the store and I saw 4 older trucks just like the one I posted with the chrome running down the sides (they were light blue and white or all light blue). I still looked carefully at the people. It won't surprise me to find it is an older truck. The witness surely knows this small detail and why they wouldn't release it is beyond me.

Clay, interesting about McDonalds. I have mentioned I think they should be checking the gas stations on the turnpikes and package stores in the area of the small towns. I think Henryetta (15 miles away) would be the only place with a McD's, but not sure. I never take the Creek Nation Turnpike, so not aware if they have the combo of McD's with the Phillips stations there. I do know they have stations tho.

 

[harleysnana]

Is the witness saying:

saw girls, then saw poi. was witness heading toward girls home? so the poi was between the walking girls and their home?

I think they have more than one witness.
They said they have a witness that saw the girls they believe
right before they were shot.
And then they said they have a witness who saw the guy and his truck.
But I don't think they said it was the same witness.
I could be wrong.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Is the witness saying:

saw girls, then saw poi. was witness heading toward girls home? so the poi was between the walking girls and their home?

As far as we know, there are two witnesses. One saw the girls walking a few minutes before and the other saw the POI. If it is the same witness...they have not indicated it.

We don't know which way the witnesses were going.

 

[Beyond Belief]

This guy has to have a job, i can't believe an employer hasn't come forward with information by now,

 

[CarpeDiem]

I just cant believe it. Do they know something we don't know? You would think of all things, they would have rushed to put the sketch out over everything else.:waitasec:

I just don't know what to make of it. Do they for some reason not think this person will strike again, the urgency isn't there? Could they not get any family to go on camera, interview with them, so that screwed the piece they planned? Those clips they did use was local footage from the day after the crime wasn't it? Maybe there is a real doubt with the sketch. I feel pretty confident if the girls were still missing, AMW would have devoted much more time to the case, but the girls still deserve swift justice for having their lives taken so brutally.

 

[harleysnana]

While we know that no sexual assault took place, we do not know the motive here.

Kind of like Couey and Duncan.

Both of those crimes shocked the #*%@ out of me....
and neither of them ended up how I thought they would.

That is the hard part because being a normal person….
we want to figure out why.... as if a reason would make it any
easier to deal with.

I just can't understand the things that do go through some of these monsters minds
….it makes me sick!

I agree SS.... we just don't know.

 

[Snowlover77]

You are saying that AMW didn't show the composite sketch? I can not believe that!

 

[harleysnana]

You are saying that AMW didn't show the composite sketch? I can not believe that!

Let's think positive.... maybe they didn't show it because they have him
in custody and they didn't need to!