Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #7

[Littledeer]

strach:

I am also hoping. When I first read this, my thought was that it was a desperate attempt by LE to find smeone who might give more information on the killings, or hoping they might have roped in just one person who might have some information.

The timing does seem liked it was speeded up. I know coindences happen in life......

IMO

 

[cloudajo]

I am really hopeful that LE finds something of use from that big sweep they just did. 11 counties, almost 500 people that were fugitives or warrants they grabbed. Although I'm sure this undercover operation was started some time ago I have to wonder if they didn't go in full force earlier than planned because of this case. They have a sketch of a POI, possibility of a snitch and possible leads to weapons, cell phones and whatever else there may be. I was surprised at the number of fugitives in OK. alone when I was searching the corrections facility website.

Agree.

 

[Littledeer]

claudjo:

Thanks for the link! I'm not sure if it is the same one I posted?

If it was, I'm sorry to have duplicated your link.

 

[cloudajo]

claudjo:

Thanks for the link! I'm not sure if it is the same one I posted?

If it was, I'm sorry to have duplicated your link.

No, it's a different video.

 

[Littledeer]

claudajo:

Hopefully then between our two videos, it will help out about the question on the shell casings!

 

[oceanblueeyes]

claudajo:

Hopefully then between our two videos, it will help out about the question on the shell casings!

My hubby just gave me a for instance. Then immediately went back to watching the Braves. lol

If they found bullet casings that were 22s they would not know it if they were used in a 22 pistol or in a 22 rifle.

imo

 

[Tom'sGirl]

Is he even from OK.......I thought he is from another state all together?imoo

He is ocean, he's from Arkansas, his ISP is from Elizabeth, AR
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/elizabeth-ar

 

[Trino]

If you will go back to the beginning of the discussion about Lazarus, on topix, you will see that I asked him if he knew anyone named Lazarus. He asked me how I knew Lazarus. (I posted as Mary.)

Actually, upon looking back, I asked about a Lazarus as a general question. Roy answered me about Lazarus.

Here is the link to the beginning.

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/weleetka-ok/TOJFJV92HAR4RS395/p56

Roy is on several forums if you investigate further - no links - sorry. He gleans info from each.

 

[FlowerChild]

YW. No, I went and searched for early videos but couldn't find any video showing that.

I think this video was taken by news crew Sunday night, as it was posted Monday AM. It shows the crime scene but I don’t see any pictures of shell casings.

Koco - June 9 Video
Search last 30 days “Two Girls Found Dead Near Weleetka” (I can’t get a link directly to video)
http://www.koco.com/video/

If you blow up and look closely at the nighttime video shot Sun night you can see in the background a couple of yellow evidence markers on the road that probably mark the location of evidence - footprints wouldn't be visible to the videograher at that distance, but casings would be. I ASSUME that at least one of the evidence markers visible are where casings are located on the roadway - it's about the correct distance for someone shooting from the roadway and people are walking all around them so they probably aren't the footprints or tire tracks.

The interesting thing I noted was the comments on BOTH the early videos (6/8 and 6/9) that they have a suspect in mind. That was later retracted and "no suspects" were being sought (6/10-6/12). Then the POI sketch was released the afternoon of 6/13. Obviously, as this began the Sheriff AND OSBI thought they knew who might have done this, but evidently either they don't want to discuss that early information OR those person(s) were found to have had an ironclad alibi for the time of the murders.

My Opinion

 

[GetSmart]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-11884.html

OMG check this out Saw it on another place


Twenty-five years later her brother Daryl Creech of Oklahoma hopes to find her.


Funny, Caryl Creech happens to be this girls brother?? interesting reading
http://www.ok.gov/launch.php?url=http://www.doc.state.ok.us/offenders/offenders.htm
Lewd Or Indecent Proposals/Acts To Child Aaron Creech
Seems like this family has problems also !!

 

[Littledeer]

[QUOTE]Roy is on several forums if you investigate further - no links - sorry. He gleams info from each.[/QUOTE]

If half of Roy's posts are true, he would have told LE.

Leave Roy at Topix unitl he is proven to be honest.

IMO

 

[cloudajo]

If you blow up and look closely at the nighttime video shot Sun night you can see in the background a couple of yellow evidence markers on the road that probably mark the location of evidence - footprints wouldn't be visible to the videograher at that distance, but casings would be. I ASSUME that at least one of the evidence markers visible are where casings are located on the roadway - it's about the correct distance for someone shooting from the roadway and people are walking all around them so they probably aren't the footprints or tire tracks.

The interesting thing I noted was the comments on BOTH the early videos (6/8 and 6/9) that they have a suspect in mind. That was later retracted and "no suspects" were being sought (6/10-6/12). Then the POI sketch was released the afternoon of 6/13. Obviously, as this began the Sheriff AND OSBI thought they knew who might have done this, but evidently either they don't want to discuss that early information OR those person(s) were found to have had an ironclad alibi for the time of the murders.

My Opinion

Yes, thanks. Here's the direct link so no one needs to search.
June 9th - 2 Girls Found Dead Near Weleetka: http://www.koco.com/video/16547226/index.html

 

[oceanblueeyes]

He is ocean, he's from Arkansas, his ISP is from Elizabeth, AR
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/elizabeth-ar

ARKANSAS?

I should have known.

Thanks TG.

 

[ricquelle]

Somethin Claycat said caught my eye:

He was red-headed and had a heavy forehead with deep-set eyes. He was slender. That was when I got the names Brian and Lazarus.

On another forum apparently one of the posters daughters lives in the area and said this:

The main rumor that my daughter has been telling me since the first day is that law enforcement have been looking to speak to a specific person that is in his early '20's. He is from the area, and I know his name and nicknames, but would rather not put it out there. My daughter told me as far as his physical decscription, he looks like an adult Chucky doll.

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?threadid=333775


Would this describe the redhead you saw?


P.S. Being new, I apologize if I wasn't suppose to quote other forums.

 

[Littledeer]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/arc...p/t-11884.html

OMG check this out Saw it on another place


Twenty-five years later her brother Daryl Creech of Oklahoma hopes to find her.


Funny, Caryl Creech happens to be this girls brother?? interesting reading

This needs verification! Great find Get Smart.

 

[cloudajo]

If you blow up and look closely at the nighttime video shot Sun night you can see in the background a couple of yellow evidence markers on the road that probably mark the location of evidence - footprints wouldn't be visible to the videograher at that distance, but casings would be. I ASSUME that at least one of the evidence markers visible are where casings are located on the roadway - it's about the correct distance for someone shooting from the roadway and people are walking all around them so they probably aren't the footprints or tire tracks.

The interesting thing I noted was the comments on BOTH the early videos (6/8 and 6/9) that they have a suspect in mind. That was later retracted and "no suspects" were being sought (6/10-6/12). Then the POI sketch was released the afternoon of 6/13. Obviously, as this began the Sheriff AND OSBI thought they knew who might have done this, but evidently either they don't want to discuss that early information OR those person(s) were found to have had an ironclad alibi for the time of the murders.

My Opinion

Re suspect. Yes, I noticed that too. Also, they looked into the tip about the truck full of boys on Wed AM IIRC. Could have been others they had in mind as well.

Koco – Video Posted June 9th
“Leads Gathered in Double Killing” and select “last 30 days”
http://www.koco.com/video/16553563/index.html

At 18 seconds, the reporter Mark says: “…there is a suspect or it may be suspects in this case. Now the sheriff tells us they have done some interviewing but right now that’s as far as they’ll go…”

At 1:55, the anchor says: “Well, the sheriff department is working with the State Department of Investigation. Authorities tell us like Mark told us that they do have a suspect in mind, but they are still following up on those leads.”

 

[MissHolmes]

Caryl Creech

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/OKOKMULG/2006-07/1153316863


This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.

Surnames: Brown, Creech, VanMeter, Hitchcock, Leftwich,
Classification: Obituary

Message Board URL:

http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZaB.2ACI/1188

Message Board Post:

Sallie Brown, a longtime resident of Weleetka was born July 25, 1956 in Wofford Heights, California to Leola Edith and Halley Odetta Creech. She passed away Monday, July 17, 2006 at her home in Weleetka, Oklahoma at the age of 49 years 11 months and 22 days.



Sallie was a Homemaker. She was a member of Endtime Revival Tabernacle.



Sallie was born and raised in Californina and came to Oklahoma in 1972, where she lived 1 year in Dustin, 2 years in Okemah before settling in Weleetka.



Sallie graduated from Seminole State College and attended one year at ECU in Ada, Oklahoma



She was preceded in death by her father Halley Odetta Creech in 1969, her mother Leola Edith (Smith) Creech in 1984, and one sister, Deanna in 2001.



She is survived by her husband, Charles Brown, of the home;

daughter, Martha VanMeter & husband Wesley, Henryetta;

son, Mart Brown, Weleetka;

6 granddaughters, Madelynn, Rachelle,Taylor, & Emily VanMeter all of Henryetta, and Abby Brown, Weleetka; as well as one on the way.

brother, Harvey Creech & wife Cheryl, Corona, California;

brother, Robert Creech, Ridgecrest, California;

sister, Pam Brown & husband Marvin, Weleetka;

sister, Carol Hitchcock & husband Howard, Mesa, Arizona;

brother, Caryl Creech, Lexington, Oklahoma;

brother, Tim Creech, Boley, Oklahoma;

sister-in-law, Jane Leftwich, Tulsa;

special friends, Bill & Betty Chambers, Weleetka;

and Margie Plunkett, Weleetka;

9 nieces & 5 nephews and a host of other relatives & friends.



Pallbearers will be Travis Wallace, Jack Pangle, James Newman, Tim Williams, and Ron Sullivan.



Funeral Services will be held Thursday, July 20, 2006 at 10:00 am at Shurden Chapel in Henryetta officiated by Rev. Michael VanMeter. Burial will be at Endtime Church Cemetery under the direction of Shurden Funeral Home.

 

[MissHolmes]

oops. Tim Creech is there also in the obit Caryl's brother, connected to Weleetka. What do you know. Need to look more.

 

[GetSmart]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-11884.html

OMG check this out Saw it on another place


Twenty-five years later her brother Daryl Creech of Oklahoma hopes to find her.


Funny, Caryl Creech happens to be this girls brother?? interesting reading
http://www.ok.gov/launch.php?url=http://www.doc.state.ok.us/offenders/offenders.htm
Lewd Or Indecent Proposals/Acts To Child Aaron Creech
Seems like this family has problems also !!

This is what I added

 

[FlowerChild]

Tim was obviously in prison in Boley (see below) in 2006. This "family connection" could explain why he is now living in Weleetka - he could have family support (and maybe a job) in Weleetka - otherwise why live in such a small, economically depressed area.

John Lilley Correctional Center
P.O. Box 1908
Boley, OK 74829

Phone: (918) 667-3381
Fax: (918) 667-3959
Warden: Glynn Booher
Security Level: Minumum
Opened: 1983