Skyla Whitaker, 11, & Taylor Placker 13 - Found Murdered - #7

[philamena]

OSBI says no - not sexually molested/assaulted. In addition they said the girls were found fully dressed as they were when they left for their walk.

My Opinion

Thanks FlowerChild.

 

[evelyn24]

Did AMW run a piece on the story??

 

[SuziQ]

just fyi: found this comment on a news article. interesting.
NYC Sherlock, Jackson heights (6/16/2008 7:32:13 PM)
OKLAHOMA does not notify residents that 4 [FOUR] NEW registered sex offenders hit the tiny town of Weleetka in the last 2 months! Two of them have FAMILIES there.
Wake up Weleetka and other towns and demand notification!
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=20080614_12_A4_spancl222893

That's probably the 4 unmappable offenders referred to at Family Watchdog.

http://www.familywatchdog.us/ShowMap.asp?frm=0

 

[SuziQ]

I'm confused on the unmappable thing if the state S/O offender site lists and address. I guess Family Watchdog could have missed the address for Timothy like I did. Here is a link to the other four.

http://www.familywatchdog.us/ShowList.asp

 

[GetSmart]

Oh please we need forum page

 

[Beyond Belief]

I thought I had read where there was property being used in Weleetka for a building (Creek Nation) used for those coming out of jail to help them find jobs, etc. I think I read it in notes when I was reading about the casino, in the Creek Nation newspaper or whatever it is they publish.

 

[SuziQ]

Has anyone checked looked closely at crimes commited in Weleetka and surrounding towns? The reason I ask is I'm a bit befuddled by the Sheriffs initial comments regarding no trouble and not many crimes in the community. I don't remember the exact wording. Now we all know that most criminals don't get scared straight. And there is IMO, a high amount of people in Weleetka and surrounding towns that are in the justice system or related to someone who is. That has to have resulted in local crimes. I would bet rural Oklahoma as in anywhere else rural in the U.S. has it's fair share of Meth related goings on. So is the sheriff in the dark or uninformed about what's going on in his county? He comes of as being a smart guy.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

OSBI says no - not sexually molested/assaulted. In addition they said the girls were found fully dressed as they were when they left for their walk.

My Opinion

I am beginning to wonder about that. OSBI sure seems to think DNA evidence will be found at that scene.

But even if they weren't it doesn't mean that this wasn't his intentions and he could not contain them in order to abduct them so in anger he may have shot them both. IIRC, even the police said that it may have been an attempt to abduct them, didn't they?

imoo

 

[MissHolmes]

These newly released sex offenders all have physical addresses in Weleetka. All are aggravated except the second one.

http://docapp8.doc.state.ok.us/servlet/page?_pageid=190&_dad=portal30&_schema=PORTAL30

Timothy P Creech 528 1st Street Weleetka, OK Begin Date: 05/14/2008

Will Ernest Frye Jr Rt.1, Box 147, Weleetka, Oklahoma 74880 Begin Date: 04/18/2008

Michael James Hensley physical address: 520 Cherokee Begin Date: 04/09/2008
PO Box 113 , Weleetka, Oklahoma 74880

Billy Ray Walker Jr 114 W. 1st Street Weleetka Oklahoma 74880 Begin Date: 04/21/2008

 

[Ruflossn]

Hello All~
I have a couple of questions:

1) Has it been confirmed that the girls had a gunshot through their mandible / floor of the mouth /(whatever you call it) I read that the girls (or at least one of them) had an open casket. If they had been the recipient of that kind of wound, would it be possible to have an open casket funeral?

2) Forgive my ignorance, but what advantages does having a forum on this crime serve? I do not know what a forum entails. If it is so advantageous, why do we not have one. Are their certain requirements that we have not met? (A certain # of posts, a certain # of days since the crime was committed, etc.............)

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Has anyone checked looked closely at crimes committed in Weleetka and surrounding towns? The reason I ask is I'm a bit befuddled by the Sheriffs initial comments regarding no trouble and not many crimes in the community. I don't remember the exact wording. Now we all know that most criminals don't get scared straight. And there is IMO, a high amount of people in Weleetka and surrounding towns that are in the justice system or related to someone who is. That has to have resulted in local crimes. I would bet rural Oklahoma as in anywhere else rural in the U.S. has it's fair share of Meth related goings on. So is the sheriff in the dark or uninformed about what's going on in his county? He comes of as being a smart guy.

No I haven't Suzi other than the ones discussed here.

All I remember them commenting on that this was their first murders since the 80s and that the area where the children were found was not a drug invested area.

imoo

 

[MissHolmes]

And 1st street is the northern most street heading out of town on the maps. Two of them live on 1st street. Not that it means anything, just saying...

 

[GetSmart]

[quote=SuziQ;2315912]Has anyone checked looked closely at crimes commited in Weleetka and surrounding towns? The reason I ask is I'm a bit befuddled by the Sheriffs initial comments regarding no trouble and not many crimes in the community. I don't remember the exact wording. Now we all know that most criminals don't get scared straight. And there is IMO, a high amount of people in Weleetka and surrounding towns that are in the justice system or related to someone who is. That has to have resulted in local crimes. I would bet rural Oklahoma as in anywhere else rural in the U.S. has it's fair share of Meth related goings on. So is the sheriff in the dark or uninformed about what's going on in his county? He comes of as being a smart guy.[/quote]

I started a search & found different things that have taken place & I got side tracked. Remember the post about the meth lab blowing up across from city hall. That town is not far from the area

 

[MissHolmes]

Hello All~
I have a couple of questions:

1) Has it been confirmed that the girls had a gunshot through their mandible / floor of the mouth /(whatever you call it) I read that the girls (or at least one of them) had an open casket. If they had been the recipient of that kind of wound, would it be possible to have an open casket funeral?

2) Forgive my ignorance, but what advantages does having a forum on this crime serve? I do not know what a forum entails. If it is so advantageous, why do we not have one. Are their certain requirements that we have not met? (A certain # of posts, a certain # of days since the crime was committed, etc.............)

Number 1 I dont know

Number 2: Then everything related can go to its own thread, and be semi organized so we don't have to look alot to find previous information that has been posted. Just one advantage I can think of

 

[SuziQ]

I thought I had read where there was property being used in Weleetka for a building (Creek Nation) used for those coming out of jail to help them find jobs, etc. I think I read it in notes when I was reading about the casino, in the Creek Nation newspaper or whatever it is they publish.

I guess something like that could explain the sudden influx of sex offenders to the area. But good lord, can't they find people a bit less scary to help?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Hello All~
I have a couple of questions:

1) Has it been confirmed that the girls had a gunshot through their mandible / floor of the mouth /(whatever you call it) I read that the girls (or at least one of them) had an open casket. If they had been the recipient of that kind of wound, would it be possible to have an open casket funeral?

2) Forgive my ignorance, but what advantages does having a forum on this crime serve? I do not know what a forum entails. If it is so advantageous, why do we not have one. Are their certain requirements that we have not met? (A certain # of posts, a certain # of days since the crime was committed, etc.............)

No it has not been confirmed. In fact I just re-read a link that said the chidren were not seen by their families( except Taylor's poor dad) until they were at the funeral home. I think the grandmother may have surmised things that are not factual. I would think the shots to the head where right into the skull area and not the chin.



imoo

 

[SuziQ]

No I haven't Suzi other than the ones discussed here.

All I remember them commenting on that this was their first murders since the 80s and that the area where the children were found was not a drug invested area.

imoo

Thank you, your recollection is much better than mine.

 

[Ruflossn]

Number 1 I dont know

Number 2: Then everything related can go to its own thread, and be semi organized so we don't have to look alot to find previous information that has been posted. Just one advantage I can think of

Thanks MissHolmes! It would be lovely to not have to continually try and remember what page and post # I read something of interest. Finally I am getting smart and have a notepad by the computer so that I can save time and frustration!!! :waitasec:

 

[Tom'sGirl]

Hello All~
I have a couple of questions:

1) Has it been confirmed that the girls had a gunshot through their mandible / floor of the mouth /(whatever you call it) I read that the girls (or at least one of them) had an open casket. If they had been the recipient of that kind of wound, would it be possible to have an open casket funeral?

2) Forgive my ignorance, but what advantages does having a forum on this crime serve? I do not know what a forum entails. If it is so advantageous, why do we not have one. Are their certain requirements that we have not met? (A certain # of posts, a certain # of days since the crime was committed, etc.............)

Have patience, you're a 'newbie' so I know it can be frustrating.

There are hundreds of cases posted about crime here daily, not all get their own Forum.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Thanks MissHolmes! It would be lovely to not have to continually try and remember what page and post # I read something of interest. Finally I am getting smart and have a notepad by the computer so that I can save time and frustration!!! :waitasec:

It is overwhelming.

imo