SM as a potential focus of the investigation

[sofia76]

From the Oregonian article:

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_hormans_blended_family_f.html

Kaine's adoptive dad, R. Neil Horman, says Kyron's disappearance has been a strain on the parents.

"The loss of a child like this is devastating," he said.

BUT...it also says earlier in same article:

More than a year after they were married, on Dec. 8, 2008, Kaine and Terri had a baby girl, Kiara.

Her name reflects a family tradition of Kaine's biological father, Kurtis Mengel, who has a twin sister, Kari Mengel Hoagland. Mengel and his wife, Kristi, named their sons Kaine and Kristian, now 32.

Just a guess on my part, but maybe his parents split up and his mom remarried a man who adopted Kaine? I know of plenty of people will remarry and have their new spouse adopt their child(ren). In fact, Terri's second husband adopted her son from her first marriage, even though her son is now living with his biological dad - not his adopted dad.

 

[AbbieNormal]

Astute observation, ElizaAvalon!

I have many pages to go to catch up on the thread from when I went to bed last night. I am sure we will get to this part as this article is ILLUMINATING!! Sorry if a repost, just haven't gotten that far yet this morning.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_hormans_blended_family_f.html

Thanks for that link, it answers a few more of my questions.

abbie

 

[Noway]

Re AbbieNormal post 611:

From the article that has been posted with all the family history:

Kaine and Terri married in April 2007.

Also, I don't remember who asked but their daughter was born more than a year later, December 2008.

 

[mamaeb]

from that article it also confirms that she is the body builder who's pictures were posted here.
IMO it looks just like her anyways

 

[CathyinTexas]

So glad you brought this photo to light again!

I think Terri and Kaine are each VERY DEEP in thought while Tony and Desiree are experiencing sadness together, as a bonded couple.

Am I the only one that "picks up" on KH's angry looks in these press conferences? I don't think that he exhibited much closeness or support for TH either. I wish Lillian Glass would weigh in on both KH and TH in these pressers.

 

[cluciano63]

I too, feel for Desiree and hope her belief in Terri is not proved to be tragic.

 

[MD MOMMY]

ITA, but what a wonderful way to set up an alibi.

:cow:

I am not starting a rumor, but I know I read here, not on this thread, but way back something about an email to the teacher that day. The email was supposedly in regards to when TH could pick up Kryon's project. Am I delusional or was that here somewhere way back? ITA with you by the way LOL.

 

[No More]

Wow....very thorough and informative .....Thanks!

So just to start a list of a few of the things which are corrected now that contradict things that have been posted here erroneously that are now proven to be untrue:

TH has now, and has always had a very close and good relationship with DY.
TH has been the primary caretaker of Kyron for his whole life, first as a help to her good friend who was ill, then as the live in caretaker of Kyron for Kaine, and finally as his SM.
NO friend or relative, including two ex-husbands said a single negative word about her.
She is not adopted---Kaine is.
The older son has not had a "tragic life" at all, he was loved and even adopted by his first step father who still pays child support for this adopted child, even though his bio father does not.
TH did complete a full 4 year college degree PLUS her Masters.
TH did not teach for only one year, she taught for at least 4 years.
TH made a big mistake of having a DUI, she made retribution for her error and has never had any other kind of violation.
The family, including TH, remain close and supportive of each other.

There are more, but that shows a small sample of how much misinformation has been put out by some in an effort to damage this person's reputation without the correct facts to back up their erroneous comments.

jmo

...no one is here to damage anyone's reputation. People are here and communicating because they care about Kyron and children.

 

[jokie7348]

So what came first, she was friends with bio mom and bio mom had to go to Canada, and when did SM marry biodad? Cos its a bit unusual to be BFF with the mother of your husbands child. Was bio mom planning to ever take Kyron and raise him herself, or was she content to let Kyron stay with SM and bio dad? Is bio mom well now, and does she have kids of her own? I;m telling ya', I have a zillion questions.

abbie

According to the article posted above, Kaine and Terri married in April, 2007.
If you click on the article link (I don't know how to bring it to my post), it will give you the answers to all of these quesions.

 

[AbbieNormal]

I posted last night that this whole story sounds like a movie plot too fantastic to be believable and now it is even more cliche, with the nanny-turned-stepmom...yikes.

I do think there is something to the possibility of TH changing in her feelings toward a "pesky" 7-year old boy, vs. the adorable toddler she had "signed up" for, that may have become more pronounced once she had another adorable toddler.

But she RAISED Kyron, how could she not love him like she loved her own biological child? I have never raised a step child but I just can't imagine having a child of her own caused her to love Kyron less. And a "teacher", no less, someone who loves children so much they chose to teach as a profession (whether she did ever teach or not, that was her chosen profession) I know, it takes all kinds of people to make the world go round. But it takes a special person to want to be a teacher, IMO, they have something in them that I certainly don;t have, as a classroom full of kids would make me nuts. I was born to be a nurse, and that's what I am. Can't imagine going to school for it then never practicing it. But, apparently moneny is not an issue in her family so maybe she financially never "had' to go to work as a teacher. Maybe her plan was to teach once her little baby girl was in school. Who knows?
abbie

 

[AbbieNormal]

I missed my daughter's talent show this week. I didn't know she was performing in it, and she stole the show. That doesn't make me a bad mom nor should it reflect poorly on me if something happened in the same week.

And I'm really not trying to defend Terri, I'm just not convinced she's the POI. But I see this nitpicking on her (not in relation to the post above). Am I really the only mom on WS that *gasp* yells at my daughter sometimes? There are times I have "gotten in her face", and there are times that corrections come out much sharper than I intended. There are tons of hugs and kisses and snuggles that are both seen and unseen by others.

I post hilariously funny comments on FB about her antics, and I've long called her "Dennis the menace in drag" but anyone who knows us face to face knows she's the beat in my heart.

I think some of the scrutinizing is so out of line, ...I have no idea what has happened, and I seriously hope it wasn't Terri, but if it turns out to be - she deserves all that the law can throw at her. If it turns out not to be, I hope there's some serious mea culpas here.

I will gladly eat crow.

 

[seeking truth]

Wow....very thorough and informative .....Thanks!

So just to start a list of a few of the things which are corrected now that contradict things that have been posted here erroneously that are now proven to be untrue:

TH has now, and has always had a very close and good relationship with DY.
TH has been the primary caretaker of Kyron for his whole life, first as a help to her good friend who was ill, then as the live in caretaker of Kyron for Kaine, and finally as his SM.
NO friend or relative, including two ex-husbands said a single negative word about her.
She is not adopted---Kaine is.
The older son has not had a "tragic life" at all, he was loved and even adopted by his first step father who still pays child support for this adopted child, even though his bio father does not.
TH did complete a full 4 year college degree PLUS her Masters.
TH did not teach for only one year, she taught for at least 4 years.
TH made a big mistake of having a DUI, she made retribution for her error and has never had any other kind of violation.
The family, including TH, remain close and supportive of each other.

There are more, but that shows a small sample of how much misinformation has been put out by some in an effort to damage this person's reputation without the correct facts to back up their erroneous comments.

jmo

I have to respectfully disagree with you, raanne. Who are the sources of this information and what biases do they have?Until we know these things to be completly true, it sounds like a P.R. campaign.

No offense meant, but how do we know that Desiree and Terri are, and have always been close? It appears that Terri somehow ended up with Desiree's man and her child. And that is just your first point. Sure "facts" can be verified but not people's feelings about them. We don't know how Terri' son views his own life.

This is obviously a story put out to engender good will for Terri. I have to better look at this article to say any more.

All my opinion

 

[grandmaj]

OK I'm getting alerts. Here is some clarification. An article has named the family. This article is from a mainstream media source. So we can, if we link, quote that article using the full names.

Qualified news media articles are always allowed to be quoted. Does this help?

That does not mean we can be invasive into their lives until a POI is named. And minor's names must be initials only.........

 

[natsound]

I have to respectfully disagree with you, raanne. Who are the sources of this information and what biases do they have?Until we know these things to be completly true, it sounds like a P.R. campaign.

No offense meant, but how do we know that Desiree and Terri are, and have always been close? It appears that Terri somehow ended up with Desiree's man and her child. And that is just your first point. Sure "facts" can be verified but not people's feelings about them. We don't know how Terri' son views his own life.

This is obviously a story put out to engender good will for Terri. I have to better look at this article to say any more.

All my opinion

ITA. A great picture can be painted of any family, even families like this, where mom's friend marries mom's ex. There usually are problems in unconventional set-ups like this. There are plenty of layers that need to be explored, and hopefully LE will leave no stone unturned.

 

[annalyzer]

But she RAISED Kyron, how could she not love him like she loved her own biological child? ~ snip

She may have resented/disliked or even hated him from the beginning. Probably deep down and probably secretly. :cow:

 

[rosetattoo]

You would think if she wanted her side out there she would have the sense to talk about how much she misses Kyron, that she can't eat or sleep, how worried she is. All this talks about is how frustrated she is at being questioned and she can't understand why they don't believe her.

ITA. If she wanted to complain about them questioning her, she should be saying "it's frustrating they're barking up the wrong tree when poor little Kyron is out there."

 

[AbbieNormal]

I hope that the bio mom is doing better in her recovery, my heart truly goes out to her. She is suffering in so many ways.

I think she has shown much trust and faith in Terri. I hope that isn't broken or violated in anyway. Personally she shown awsome character! If my best friend went to take care of my baby while I was getting life saving medical treatment I would think she was so amazing...IMOO..until she married my exhusband then I would have mixed feelings. Greatful but betrayed.

BBM
Yeah, me too. But she must have loved Kyron so much that she knew uprooting him and taking him away from the only parents he really knew- Terri and bio dad, would not be healthy. I guess. At least that's what it appears to be. I certainly hope whatever her health issues were are resolved now and the strain of this situation isn't putting hear health in jeopardy.
You have to admire that the 4 of them are sticking together though, they are much "bigger' people than I could be. JMO.

 

[arielilane]

Very informative article recently posted from chicoliving:
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_hormans_blended_family_f.html

 

[Astrella613]

I wonder if LE is unjustifiably discrediting the story of the child. It is not unheard of for LE to ignore any "evidence" that would exonerate a person they believe to be guilty. In the Elizabeth Smart's case Elizabeth's sister's eye witness account was totally disregarded by LE and it turned out to be correct. If they had listened to her they might have found Elizabeth sooner. Again, that being said, I still agree with the majority that TH should be looked at. I also wonder if she has denied being in the vicinity where LE said there were pings from her phone. Also, are pings from towers, etc. more credible than lie detectors in court? Anyone know?

In the Elizabeth Smart case, her sister's account was not desregarded by LE, it was that she could not remember who it was. She only knew that the voice was familiar. It was months later that she recalled who he was.

 

[AbbieNormal]

I too, feel for Desiree and hope her belief in Terri is not proved to be tragic.

That makes two of us.