Someone, Somewhere knows

[Nuisanceposter]

I can't help but wonder why he wasn't afraid.I'd have been terrified if a sibling was killed in my own home.What on earth did they tell Burke that caused him not to be afraid?Or was it that he witnessed something(s) but repressed the memories,theyby not remembering what all happened,but subconciously beleiving he was safe???
I don't think he's at an age where he can handle the truth right now.I have a feeling when he gets to be middle-aged or so,(esp. once JR passes on and he can be more objective),he'll be scratching his head going..."..hey....wait a minute now...".:waitasec:

I don't know why he wasn't afraid, either, but interviews from way back describe him as not being afraid of a repeat occurrence. I have to wonder also what he had been told that would alleviate his concerns so well.

I don't think he can handle the truth right now, either. He's relatively young, still in the process of beginning his own life and attending college, and recently lost his mother. Questioning his sister's murder and who was responsible is most likely too much to consider with everything else going on.

I also think he'll begin pondering what really happened versus what he was told and how that plays into his own life later on, as he gets older - and after John has passed on. I would assume it would be heavy on his mind if he ever has his own children.

 

[narlacat]

I, too, think Burke knows (or at least suspects) a heckuva lot more than he has let on. As a young man, Burke has claimed to not remember much, if anything, at all about that night. I don't really buy that....I think it's more of a good one-liner to use as a shield against a deluge of questions.

He'd have to know, whichever way it went.
In his heart he would know.

 

[Trino]

I've always wondered what Burke is like, since there has been so little public information about him. Would he be the type of person who over the years would seek honest answers about the murder of his sister? Will he ever shed light on his early years about the Ramseys and about JB?

 

[BBB167893]

It really just burns my butt that these two just wandered around and made getting away with murder look like child's play!

They had a good teacher: OJ.

 

[kaykay]

I think BR knew exactly what happened that night. I think he just didn't know about the ransom note.

I think after JB's body was found he was told to go to bed and stay there unless he wanted to go to jail and be put to death. And was told, never tell anyone what he did.

He may have been told to act like he had been sleeping until someone
told him it was ok to get up.

Kids are so nosey, no way with all the people and the police there would he not come down to see what was going on. Most kids would keep asking until they got an answer, and most would cry if they didn't get one. Especially if he didn't see his little sister, wouldn't he ask where she was?

He didn't need too. he knew.

I often wonder what BR told FW when BR stayed at the Whites.
I would bet FW asked him questions.

I wonder if any parents out there would let their daughter date BR and not be concerned?

I'm not saying this is fact just my opinion :twocents:

kaykay

 

[Rupert]

I think after JB's body was found he was told to go to bed and stay there unless he wanted to go to jail and be put to death.

put to death?

Give me a break!

There is NO extra recording on the tape.

Otherwise it would have been the biggest CONFIRMED leak that the BPD ever did. BS! Throw it OR show it, BPD. That tape thing was so underhanded by what is supposed to be a public represented body, it makes me think the DA was the real honest horse.

Also, BR never let on to anyone and yet he was by himself.

Sorry. That tape thing bugs the hell out of me. Show it or throw it. If it was false, then it really makes me wonder about Steve Bass Thomas....

There is a real big mystery here. Whether RDI or IDI we're going to get to the bottom it. Throw it or show it!

 

[kaykay]

put to death?

Give me a break!

There is NO extra recording on the tape.

Otherwise it would have been the biggest CONFIRMED leak that the BPD ever did. BS! Throw it OR show it, BPD. That tape thing was so underhanded by what is supposed to be a public represented body, it makes me think the DA was the real honest horse.

Also, BR never let on to anyone and yet he was by himself.

Sorry. That tape thing bugs the hell out of me. Show it or throw it. If it was false, then it really makes me wonder about Steve Bass Thomas....

There is a real big mystery here. Whether RDI or IDI we're going to get to the bottom it. Throw it or show it!

I don't know what you'r talking about. I didn't say anything about
recording on any tape.

I don't understand what you'r talking about.
*(Also, BR never let on to anyone and yet he was by himself.)*
I didn't say anything about BR being by himself, anyway what makes you say he was left alone?

I have never read anything about BR being left alone other than him being in bed that morning.

What is the "Throw it or Show It" thing? If you are talking about proving
or backing up what I posted...I did say, this was only my opinion not fact.

kaykay

 

[julianne]

I wonder if any parents out there would let their daughter date BR and not be concerned?

I'm not saying this is fact just my opinion :twocents:

kaykay

Well, I believe BR is an adult now, and most likely, any women he dates would also be of an adult age too, so parental approval doesn't really play into it.

But, more importantly, do you say this because you think BR had something to do with it?

 

[coloradokares]

911 tape disputes Ramseys' story
Burke's voice is audible, contrary to parents' statement that he was in bed asleep when mom called

By KEVIN McCULLEN
Rocky Mountain News Staff Writer

That was just copy and pasted. I brought it. Well what I had I also have here in my notes somewhere the company name that enhanced the tape from out in California. Give me some research time. thanks

put to death?

Give me a break!

There is NO extra recording on the tape.

Otherwise it would have been the biggest CONFIRMED leak that the BPD ever did. BS! Throw it OR show it, BPD. That tape thing was so underhanded by what is supposed to be a public represented body, it makes me think the DA was the real honest horse.

Also, BR never let on to anyone and yet he was by himself.

Sorry. That tape thing bugs the hell out of me. Show it or throw it. If it was false, then it really makes me wonder about Steve Bass Thomas....

There is a real big mystery here. Whether RDI or IDI we're going to get to the bottom it. Throw it or show it!

 

[JMO8778]

See my sig.It was Aerospace Corp. They maintain a division of the Dept. of Justice,which is a funded institute that offers space-age expertise to police departments nationwide.

 

[4sure]

put to death?

Give me a break!

There is NO extra recording on the tape.

Otherwise it would have been the biggest CONFIRMED leak that the BPD ever did.
!

Hear hear! Why so many are convinced about something they have never seen or heard is troubling.

 

[BBB167893]

Kane confirmed it. That's a start, imo.

Julianne! Good to see you! (Have I got something for you!)

 

[Rupert]

Hear hear! Why so many are convinced about something they have never seen or heard is troubling.

Thanks, 4sure.

KayKay,
My response was not intended for your statement alone. Sorry for being vague or so expressive in reply to your post. I was responding to the fact that most people think BR was involved because of an enhancement on a tape that was never officially released to the public. I don't know how this was leaked to the public and have never seen an official statement by the BPD. If anyone has a copy of the tape with the enhancement, please share it. But no. We only have a leak that says certain indivuals in a consultant firm who enhanced the tape believed they heard John and Patsy talking to Burke on the 911 call that fateful morning. I have heard the original tape and don't hear Burke's voice at all.

I don't know who did it.
RN looks like Patsy's writing. To me it was her writing or someone very close who could imitate her writing.
There doesn't appear to be much intruder evidence. So, if it was an intruder, they had a key.
I could go on about the pre and post crime evidence and motive about the R's and their friends.
Oxzam's razor sure made the R's look guilty.

However, the so called enhanced tape seems to have put everyone over the edge about the R's coverup. Bluecrab has his theory about that. If the enhanced tape really does indicate Burks'e voice on it, then it should be made public because the leak has already been made. Throw it or show it! Admit the enhancement was wrong or give the public the enhancement.

Just put yourself in the same situation. Cops say they have a tape that says your guilty, yet they won't show it. Cops I know would never do that. First the bungling of the crime scene, then arguments with the DA, and then that so called enhancement. That enhancement of Patsy's 911 call should have been handled much more carefully.

Perhaps another thread on the so called enhanced tape could be started by someone who knows the origin of that leak.

Just for fun: "Listen carefully" to the tape if you can find it.

 

[BBB167893]

Oxzam's razor sure made the R's look guilty.

Yes, it does, doesn't it?

Listen to the release made by Lin Wood carefully: the audio goes DEAD SILENT for almost four seconds, then comes back just before the hangup. No keyboard tapping, no static, no nothing. Does the word Watergate mean anything to anyone?

 

[Nuisanceposter]

Excellent point, SD.

I don't think Burke being heard on the 911 call indicates his involvement as much as the idea that the Ramseys were lying about what was really going in their house that morning.

Also damning to the Rs is the fact that they changed their story about Burke being awake or asleep after the 911 call with him supposedly on it got out. Why would they change their story when the call got out, saying Burke had been awake after all, if he wasn't on the tape and they know for sure he wasn't?

I'd question whether he was on the tape or not a lot more if the Ramseys didn't consistently change their stories as to the course of events on 12/25 and 12/26.

 

[Rupert]

Yes, it does, doesn't it?

Listen to the release made by Lin Wood carefully: the audio goes DEAD SILENT for almost four seconds, then comes back just before the hangup. No keyboard tapping, no static, no nothing. Does the word Watergate mean anything to anyone?

So, you're saying that Lin Wood erased that part of the tape that was supposedly enhanced by the consultant? My understanding it was a copy of the original tape, not doctored in any way. Wouldn't the BPD refute a doctored tape?

 

[Rupert]

Excellent point, SD.

I don't think Burke being heard on the 911 call indicates his involvement as much as the idea that the Ramseys were lying about what was really going in their house that morning.

Also damning to the Rs is the fact that they changed their story about Burke being awake or asleep after the 911 call with him supposedly on it got out. Why would they change their story when the call got out, saying Burke had been awake after all, if he wasn't on the tape and they know for sure he wasn't?

I'd question whether he was on the tape or not a lot more if the Ramseys didn't consistently change their stories as to the course of events on 12/25 and 12/26.

I must have missed something here. If you can, please point to me the deposition where the Ramsays changed their statement about Burke being awake that early.

 

[Nuisanceposter]

Give me some time to see if I can find that in a deposition. I do have an interview John Ramsey granted the National Enquirer (yeah, I know) where he distinctly told them that Burke had been awake.


http://www.acandyrose.com/04032001enquirer.htm


"John and Patsy Ramsey have changed the story they told cops about their daughter JonBenet's murder -- they now admit their son Burke was awake during that Christmas 1996 nightmare!

In an exclusive ENQUIRER interview, the nation's most infamous murder suspects say Burke was jolted awake by screams in their Boulder, Colo. home.

"Burke knew something horrible had happened. He heard us screaming. He heard Patsy ...a woman in terror," John confessed. "We thought he was asleep but he wasn't. Burke was awake.

"Burke was frightened. He had tears in his eyes. He knew something very, very wrong was going on."

Until being questioned by The ENQUIRER, the Ramseys had always insisted that Burke was still sleeping when police arrived at their home after Patsy's 911 call.

But now John has admitted to The ENQUIRER that Burke woke up before the 911 call was placed at 5:52 a.m. to summon police.

 

[Rupert]

Give me some time to see if I can find that in a deposition. I do have an interview John Ramsey granted the National Enquirer (yeah, I know) where he distinctly told them that Burke had been awake.


http://www.acandyrose.com/04032001enquirer.htm


"John and Patsy Ramsey have changed the story they told cops about their daughter JonBenet's murder -- they now admit their son Burke was awake during that Christmas 1996 nightmare!

In an exclusive ENQUIRER interview, the nation's most infamous murder suspects say Burke was jolted awake by screams in their Boulder, Colo. home.

"Burke knew something horrible had happened. He heard us screaming. He heard Patsy ...a woman in terror," John confessed. "We thought he was asleep but he wasn't. Burke was awake.

"Burke was frightened. He had tears in his eyes. He knew something very, very wrong was going on."

Until being questioned by The ENQUIRER, the Ramseys had always insisted that Burke was still sleeping when police arrived at their home after Patsy's 911 call.

But now John has admitted to The ENQUIRER that Burke woke up before the 911 call was placed at 5:52 a.m. to summon police.

Thanks, Nuisanceposter.

I read over the deposition and don't see any refutation by the Ramsays about John's statement to the National Enquirer. So, I agree that the Ramsays change on Burke being awake could have been a legal preparation on the 911 call enhancement bluff.

 

[Eagle1]

I cannot say for sure, Lord knows I hope to never find out, but my gut tells me I wouldn't dream of it.

If it were my child, I have no doubt I would be suspecting any and all, especially if they all had been up to something unusual that could have been risky for JonBenet. Of course Patsy shouldn't have put her at risk in any way whatsoever, and I wouldn't, but still, I dunno about those "friends". How could they even get there so fast the next morning?