Sources: Casey Anthony Intentionally Killed Caylee

[seagull65]

Is there a difference between duct tape and 'duck' tape, or are they they same thing, just pronounced differently?

I always thought they were the same but maybe I'll find out now duck tape is a whole other thing I never knew about! :waitasec:

 

[bobodedoo]

I'm sorry but I'm not really sure why ANYONE is introducing the idea that the tape found on the remains is GAFF TAPE and not DUCT TAPE. Two TOTALLY DIFFERENT types of tape. All the reports from LE, etc. that have been reported in the media have referred only to DUCT TAPE.

Here is what gaff tape is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaffer_tape

Here is what duct tape is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duct_tape

Although both are pressure sensitive, one is backed with cotton material and the other vinyl.

PLEASE, PLEASE don't try to confuse the issue ... it makes me think that anyone that tries to say gaff tape was with the remains is trying to point the finger at someone who has not been implicated and is merely involved because she just happens to be a friend of the accused.

 

[JustJax]

I'm with ya on that one Kline. But I think she could have worn latex gloves (she watches CSI) but i think she ripped it with her teeth. Maybe left behind some lip skin or some such thing...

She aint the sharpest tool in the shed thats for sure.

I am a former maintenance supervisor and have had the experience that it is nearly impossible to handle/work with duct tape while wearing latex or rubber gloves. I have also seen a few talking head LE state that as well.

My money is on that there are prints and Casey hair on the tape. I thought maybe touch DNA or saliva from tearing the tape with her teeth, but with the remains being under water for so long, wll it may be a longshot.

 

[Lisabet]

ITA with you , I NEVER thought it was an accident, Caylee was just an accessoryto KC, she got sick of being a Mom and missing out on partying so she and killed her , then threw precious Caylee away like an out of style accessory, and went on her merry way:furious:
JMO

If we think back to the raging turmoil going on in that house the night before all this happened --- the fight between Cindy and Casey, the yelling, swearing, name-calling, throat grabbing --- you know Caylee was reacting to that --- probably upset, confused and throwing a temper tantrum even the following day. I believe Casey killed Caylee in a fit of rage --- no careful planning here. I'm sure more is being made of this murder than is really there. Casey killed Caylee because she was too much of a drag on Casey's desired lifestyle, too much to put up with, and then she disposed of Caylee's body the simplest way she could think of. No hard work there, either.

 

[seagull65]

If I ever had to sit in a room where people were discussing autopsy photos of my CHILD's body, someone would have to carry me out in a straight-jacket. The thought is so horrifying to me, it makes me want to scream.

I know. Imagine all that they have been through, the endless, horrible discussion of everything, even Caylee's remains, in the media constantly, the fears they went through every day for months when they thought she was out there alive with who knows who, then finally she's found dead and now her body gets passed around amongst strangers like an object or specimen. I can't imagine their heartache.

 

[21merc7]

If we think back to the raging turmoil going on in that house the night before all this happened --- the fight between Cindy and Casey, the yelling, swearing, name-calling, throat grabbing --- you know Caylee was reacting to that --- probably upset, confused and throwing a temper tantrum even the following day. I believe Casey killed Caylee in a fit of rage --- no careful planning here. I'm sure more is being made of this murder than is really there. Casey killed Caylee because she was too much of a drag on Casey's desired lifestyle, too much to put up with, and then she disposed of Caylee's body the simplest way she could think of. No hard work there, either.

This is the most likely scenario, and perp can blow it all off with no emotion thinking she is heroine for saving Caylee from life with Cindy, from a life like the one she herself had.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18444680/detail.html#-

"Sources close to the Casey Anthony case told Local 6 News on Thursday that they have overwhelming evidence showing that she intentionally killed her young daughter, Caylee, and was solely responsible for the toddler's death."

"Sources also said investigators have now established a time frame of death that dates back to June, according to reports returned by forensic botanists and entomologists brought in to anaylize the terrain and insect growth where Caylee's remains were found. Sources said plants were growing through the skeleton and bug evidence was also recovered, both of which helped scientists reach their conclusion."

Forensics are going to do it again!

Wow.............we didn't even have access to all information and we evidently got it right........

"Sources also said investigators have now established a time frame of death that dates back to June, according to reports returned by forensic botanists and entomologists brought in to anaylize the terrain and insect growth where Caylee's remains were found. Sources said plants were growing through the skeleton and bug evidence was also recovered, both of which helped scientists reach their conclusion.

Orange County sheriff's detectives believe Anthony took actions that led to her daughter's death June 16, which corresponds to the June time frame of death, Local 6 News reported.

Investigators believe Anthony dumped Caylee's body around June 18 in the wooded area where the remains were found, sources said."

 

[Sammiejam]

I am a former maintenance supervisor and have had the experience that it is nearly impossible to handle/work with duct tape while wearing latex or rubber gloves. I have also seen a few talking head LE state that as well.

My money is on that there are prints and Casey hair on the tape. I thought maybe touch DNA or saliva from tearing the tape with her teeth, but with the remains being under water for so long, wll it may be a longshot.

I do agree. I just am finding it difficult to wrap my head around the fact that Miss CSI/House/American Psycho Fan would leave behind FINGERPRINTS.

FINGERPRINTS for goodness sake!

But I have to keep reminding myself, DUMB AS ROCKS.

 

[armywife210]

I love your Sig *cry* that is how all babies and children should be

Snipped from article quoted



Bold by me - Took actions that led to Caylees Death

Its just not computing in my brain how she could do this willfully intentionally and with no regard for Caylee

It makes me lose faith in myself that I could see some sort of good in Casey that she couldn't have done this to beautiful little Caylee on purpose

I feel like a complete chump - go ahead throw the eggs

awww, you're not a chump! Anyone who is humane was atleast HOPING that it was some kind of accident, even though all evidence was pointing elsewhere. I knew it wasn't, but I sure hoped... and I found myself trying to theorize how it could've been accidental constantly.... though not successfully.

 

[anastacia129]

I'm sorry but I'm not really sure why ANYONE is introducing the idea that the tape found on the remains is GAFF TAPE and not DUCT TAPE. Two TOTALLY DIFFERENT types of tape. All the reports from LE, etc. that have been reported in the media have referred only to DUCT TAPE.

Here is what gaff tape is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaffer_tape

Here is what duct tape is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duct_tape

Although both are pressure sensitive, one is backed with cotton material and the other vinyl.

PLEASE, PLEASE don't try to confuse the issue ... it makes me think that anyone that tries to say gaff tape was with the remains is trying to point the finger at someone who has not been implicated and is merely involved because she just happens to be a friend of the accused.

The SA said duct tape, every report has said duct tape. Anybody trying to implicate friends should realize real quick it's a HUGE waste! "There's no evidence!"

 

[passionflower]

IMO, the family was told all of this before it hit the news. Maybe that is why they were not at the hearing yesterday. Actions speak louder than words, IMO kc still blames everyone (even Caylee) for what happened. No way does she blame herself. This is why she looks so cold, nasty and has no respect for the LE/FBI/courts. I never thought it was an accident,MOO

 

[Kat]

I'm sorry but I'm not really sure why ANYONE is introducing the idea that the tape found on the remains is GAFF TAPE and not DUCT TAPE. Two TOTALLY DIFFERENT types of tape. All the reports from LE, etc. that have been reported in the media have referred only to DUCT TAPE.

Here is what gaff tape is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaffer_tape

Here is what duct tape is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duct_tape

Although both are pressure sensitive, one is backed with cotton material and the other vinyl.

PLEASE, PLEASE don't try to confuse the issue ... it makes me think that anyone that tries to say gaff tape was with the remains is trying to point the finger at someone who has not been implicated and is merely involved because she just happens to be a friend of the accused.

I think I know where that came from, during the Q&A portion with Dr. G the day she announced that the remains found were of Caylee, a reporter asked the first question.
The first question posed to Dr. G was about Gaff tape found on the remains.

 

[anastacia129]

I know. Imagine all that they have been through, the endless, horrible discussion of everything, even Caylee's remains, in the media constantly, the fears they went through when they thought she was out there alive with who knows who, then finally she's found dead and now her body gets passed around amongst strangers like an object or specimen. I can't imagine their heartache.

kc seems to be doing just fine. I wouldn't worry about her

 

[TURBOTHINK]

Is Ch. 6 the only one reporting this? I'd like to know the "sources", but I'm sure we'll find out soon enough.

Thankfully, Dr. G stated there was no trauma to the bones, thus no neck-breaking. Be thankful for small things, I guess, right?

I am not convinced there was no neck breaking. In that state of decomposition, and with the skull detached, it could have been broken but not enough evidence to use it for the prosecution.

 

[mydailyopinions]

If it was your grandchild, could you let her be buried without having a second autopsy though? You would be so desperate for any possible explanation of what happened to her. Although I doubt the bones can provide enough information.

Trick question! In any other circumstance, yes I would want to know. All roads lead to Casey, and her parents know it.
The ME was not able to determine a COD. Bones that are not broken do not have alot to say in this case. Would I want to know so desperately what exactly my daughter did to my grandchild enough to allow her remains to go unburied for almost a month? No, honestly I wouldn't.
The defense is posturing. Their loyalties lie with Casey, not proper burial of Caylee, or the truth. The truth in this case cannot be found in Caylee's bones, or the photos, the truth is in that horrible evil woman they are defending. The defense is not seeking justice for Caylee, they are seeking a way to blame someone else for this.

 

[ZubenElSchemali]

Don't any of you find it strange that still, 2 hours after 6 posted this article none of the others have anything about this? At least that's true of 13, 9 2 and the Sentinel. And even more important, wouldn't this leak make the SA a liar yesterday in court when she told the judge and defense that none of this is back yet, only pictures available for the defense? Something seems strange to me that they could get it back while court is in session and someone have time to go through it and leak it so conveniently. Especially when they are in court because they are worried the defense is going to leak sensitive information.

 

[tiredofthis]

I am not convinced there was no neck breaking. In that state of decomposition, and with the skull detached, it could have been broken but not enough evidence to use it for the prosecution.

Exactly. I'm not convinced it was an easy death. :furious:

 

[JWG]

This is not new. When the Grand Jury heard the evidence even before Caylee was found, they indicted her on First Degree Murder which means premeditated. OCSO arrested her on those charges and stated then it was premeditated. INTENTIONAL.

Why be surprised at something we already knew to be a fact in this case? If there was not enough evidence, they would not have brought the charges. Now, with the body and further evidence of the timeline, they only have solidified the state's case against Casey. The growth of plants and bug evidence only played the role of determining how long Caylee's body was left in the field where she was found.

I believe the reason they are leaking this information now is due to the motions Baez sought in court yesterday and knowing they are going to have to release certain information out to the media (doc dump).

I can't understand why people don't realize yet that when "sources" come out with this type of information, it turns out to be correct and was intentionally leaked by LE for a reason. This has happened repeatedly in this case and they haven't lied yet. I have had no doubt that Casey killed Caylee intentionally...because OCSO, the FBI, and the SA's Office said she did and they have had evidence to prove it. (I have believed it since I saw the words, "31 Days" tho.)

Until the body was discovered and the most recent evidence recovered, a number of investigators with access to more information than we have felt it was likely an accident:

Investigators who initially thought that Caylee's death could have been an accident have changed their minds, sources said. local6

 

[mydailyopinions]

Don't any of you find it strange that still, 2 hours after 6 posted this article none of the others have anything about this? At least that's true of 13, 9 2 and the Sentinel. And even more important, wouldn't this leak make the SA a liar yesterday in court when she told the judge and defense that none of this is back yet, only pictures available for the defense? Something seems strange to me that they could get it back while court is in session and someone have time to go through it and leak it so conveniently. Especially when they are in court because they are worried the defense is going to leak sensitive information.

I don't find it strange myself. The SA may not have the reports, but just as what was found in the car, they certainly would know before the reports are put into their hands. The SA representation yesterday said that she is in daily contact with the FBI. Trust me, they know what is coming in those reports.
I am going to assume that OCSD knows , and SA will demand the proof in writing, before admitting to having any evidence.

 

[JustJax]

I do agree. I just am finding it difficult to wrap my head around the fact that Miss CSI/House/American Psycho Fan would leave behind FINGERPRINTS.

FINGERPRINTS for goodness sake!

But I have to keep reminding myself, DUMB AS ROCKS.

(mybold)

I agree. An acomplished liar she is, but cunning? Nope. Just dumb enough to have her self convinced that she could pull this off with her elaborate story.

She had been pulling off the lying game with her family and friends for so long, she had alot of confidence in her craft.

But she had no idea that this magnitude of attention to the case, didn't think beyond conning her family with her Nanny story. She did not think her Mom would have her arrested "on a whim."