South Africa - Anni Dewani, 28, shot to death, Gugulethu, 13 Nov 2010 #4

[newone]

Were these cards used by Shrien to bribe them but without money they were useless anyway but what was the point??? IMO it shows he was guilty.

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I think you are being kind -- I keep thinking he was stoned or something.(highly agitated from guilt)....who the heck does that? MOO

 

[PrimeSuspect]

EWN Reporter ‏@ewnreporter 8m8 minutes ago

Mbolombo could get himself into a lot of trouble if he is doesn't testify honestly and satisfactorily.

Its all a bit confusing now, will see how far the indemnity extends when the Judge returns.



(I wonder if Mondo will change his mind about testifying?)

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Judge says MM to be granted immunity in this trial if he tells the truth? How does anyone know what the truth is????:crazy:

This is tricky, he could incriminate himself.

 

[newone]

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Court resumes. Traverso says she's not satisfied that MM's indemnity applies in this trial.

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/LIVE-Dewani-in-court-day-16-20141106

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MM warned he has indemnity for 2 of 5 charges. Will only get indemnity for rest if he testifies honestly, says judge.

 

[newone]

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/LIVE-Dewani-in-court-day-16-20141106

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State's Shareen Riley goes over MM's background. He was fired from Protea Hotel for involvement in Anni's murder.

 

[patCee]

This is tricky, he could incriminate himself.

I think it means they'll let him off if he swings the case by proving SD's guilt, or innocence beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

EWN Reporter ‏@ewnreporter 10m10 minutes ago

Judge: I'm not satisfied that the indemnity granted by Judge Henney applied to this trial, I will ask counsel to address me...

Judge: Mr Mhlombo have you read through the charge sheet?

Mhlombo: yes.

Judge: I will ask counsel to address me on this aspect at a later stage.

Mbolombo says he understands.

(This is interesting)

 

[newone]

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/LIVE-Dewani-in-court-day-16-20141106
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MM confirms statement given to police. On 19 Nov 2010.

 

[Estelle]

PrimeSuspect:
Lutchman: he didn't give reasons for wanting to go shopping. He did view the body after the post mortem. (this was actually Dewani going to meet Tongo at the Waterfront bridge, Tongo didn't turn up after 2 hours SD waited, Tongo couldn't get transport, that's why Tongo called to change venue to meet.)

This shows the real deceit of the man, to do that in those circumstances, and not tell anyone present has to be unbelievable.

This reveals where Shrien Dewani's priorities lay!

 

[newone]

This is tricky, he could incriminate himself.

like fencing stolen goods??? gang activity??

 

[PrimeSuspect]

EWN Reporter ‏@ewnreporter 9m9 minutes ago

Middleman Monde Mhlombo was arrested in Nov 2010, made warning statement, statement handed in as evidence exhibit B5.


vanessa poonah ‏@vanessapoonah01#SABCNews 1m1 minute ago

Mbolombo (from now on as MM..)says he did not tell police whole truth in his warning statement on 18 November 2010.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

vanessa poonah ‏@vanessapoonah01 #SABCNews 7m7 minutes ago

MM: evidence I did not give was to disclose my involvement.

(State) Riley: when police approached you to be a witness, did they explain this is terms of Section 204?

MM: they explained fully, I understood.

Riley: Did you tell the truth in that statement?

MM: Even then I did not speak the truth about my involvement

Riley: in Mngeni trial you were indemnified on conspiracy to commit murder and illegal possession of ammunition?

MM: correct. I was truthful, but not all evidence regarding my involvement. Also lied when testifying

Riley: how did your statement of September this year come about?

MM: I ran out of ideas that there is no more hiding. I have to be open and honest. Volunteered to make statement.

 

[Estelle]

EWN Reporter ‏@ewnreporter 15m15 minutes ago

Judge: you said had Mr Dewani told you there was a lot of money in the car,you would have investigated this from a diff angle

Lutchman: if the driver knows there is money in the car, they have the car hijacked, seen it before.

Judge: so the same is true if they know there are wealthy customers.

Next witness, Monde Mbolombo, the middleman, who was granted immunity from prosecution.

Are these questions from the Judge showing any bias?

 

[PrimeSuspect]

vanessa poonah ‏@vanessapoonah01 #SABCNews 6m6 minutes ago

MM: everything was on footage, nothing I could hide anymore. Footage was shown to me by prosecutors.

 

[newone]

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MM confirms statement given to police. On 19 Nov 2010.
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MM says he lied in first statement given to police.
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MM says he didn't tell police everything in his statement. he left out details of his involvement.
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MM is soft-spoken. His eyes often downcast.
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State warns MM that he must tell the truth.
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MM admits he lied giving testimony in Mngeni trial.
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/LIVE-Dewani-in-court-day-16-20141106

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Are these questions from the Judge showing any bias?

Yes I'm wondering about that. I highlight everything she says because she is so involved, I want to look it over when it comes to her verdict, unfortunately we don't have video footage to scan over like in OP trial.

 

[newone]

Are these questions from the Judge showing any bias?

I am thinking there were material facts missing that changed it from carjacking and missing woman to
carjacking robbery and missing woman moo===changed motivation jmho

 

[PrimeSuspect]

vanessa poonah ‏@vanessapoonah01 9m9 minutes ago

Riley: footage relates to your employment at Protea Colloseum hotel?

MM: Correct.

MM: Footage wasn't shown to me before.

 

[newone]

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MM says he has seen footage shown by prosecutors.
State says footage relates to work at Protea Hotel.
MM agrees.
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SR asks: What about the footage made you tell the truth?

MM: Footage and movements in hotel.
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SR: Why didn't you give the State and police your full cooperation before?

MM: I was scared I'd be arrested and sent to jail.
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Court adjourns for lunch.

 

[newone]

they have a lot of breaks -- makes me wonder if m'lady is a smoker LOL