GUILTY South Africa - Jayde Panayiotou, 28, Port Elizabeth, 21 April 2015

  • #621
JJ, that is another lovely photo of TB. She looks so cheerful in every photo I have seen which must be irksome for Price as he wears an "opposite side of the coin" face :).
 
  • #622
A bit about Thereza Botha

SAPS
February 1994 – Present (23 years 5 months)
Criminal data analysis, assist in co-ordination of investigation, present evidence in court

During the 2013 IAWP (International Association for Women in Police) conference, I presented the case study of the case that became widely known as the "KZN 26" case. The evidence in this case, against 26 accused, turned on my evidence and resulted in a record judgment. The case has since become a decided case based on the cellphone evidence delivered. 24 convictions on 486 charges. A true BENCHMARK for Organised Crime Prosecution !

I have been awarded with the "Service Excellence Award for Women in Police - KZN (2013)"

[url]https://za.linkedin.com/in/thereza-botha-a2222173[/URL]

And Price says she’s not an expert.
 
  • #623
Adv Terry Price (TP) has no further questions. Peter Daubermann (PD) behind his cross-examination

PD asks about the procedure Botha follows when collecting data.
"Each case has its own merits. Sometimes I have to go to the crime scene"

What do you call yourself. A data analyst?
"What I do is not constrained to data only. Investigating analyst would be more apt"

Botha left the SAPS on 29 Feb 2016

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  • #624
PD asks Botha is she is a mathematician.
"No".
Are you a psychologist?
"No. I'm not a Gynaecologist either"

:floorlaugh: :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh:

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  • #625
Botha agrees that the correct way to describe what she did was she took info supplied by the IO & presented it in a more intelligible form

Would you concede it's not your expertise to draw inferences from the data?
"I agree"

"I don't think my report is perfect. There might be things that I omitted that are relevant, but I certainly won't add irrelevant info"

PD wants to deal with alleged co-conspirator Zolani Sibeko (ZS) first

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  • #626
PD says when alleged triggerman Sizwe Vumazonke (SV) hired the rental vehicle, ZS was not yet in the picture. Botha agrees

He was also not yet in the picture when Jayde's residence was first pointed out to SV

ZS only comes into picture on 15 April 2015 when they unsuccessfully tried to track Jayde down (she was killed on 21 Apr)

Data analysis does not place ZS at scene at time of kidnapping in Kabega Park or her murder in KwaNobuhle

So you agree on the state's case, ZS was not present at Stellen Glen when Jayde was kidnapped? "I agree"

Botha is asked to explain the term 'scouting'.
"It's a fixed pattern in Organised Crime before an event takes place"

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  • #627
PD says there is no allegation of scouting on 11 Apr. There is no reference to anything that happened that day

While the indictment makes no reference to 11 Apr, Botha mentions in her report where ZS's handset was on that morning. Why mention it?

"The relevance is that ZS communicated with SV, he then travelled to the Linton Grange tower reception area"

Are you saying he went on his own at night to scout out residence of Jayde?
"I can't say why he went to that area (but data shows he did)"

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  • #628
Is it your evidence he was scouting on a separate occasion?
"I would interpret it as that given his communication with SV"

PD: I'm going to demonstrate to you that your interpretation is completely unfounded

Do you agree that cellphone tower mapping can't place a person in a motor vehicle? "I agree"

And it doesn't show who exactly was using a particular sim and handset. It may or may not be the owner? "I agree"

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  • #629
PD places a combination of the cell records of SV & ZS on 15 & 16 Apr. they have been collated

PD says he is not making any admissions with regards to the accuracy of the records but he must rely on the info before court

His cross-exam will be based on the state's version & evidence

PD says the only communication between ZS & SV took place at 7:43pm on 11 Apr. He was unable to reach SV

"I agree that was an unsuccessful communication but one must not lose sight that there are other forms of communication such as watsap"

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  • #630
  • #631
PD is going through ZS's movements that night according to cell data

A map or overview of ZS's movements is placed on screen

PD says from frequency of communication, one can't say it was to do with crime. Botha says it depends on case. She once dealt with 26 acc *

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* (accused) as referred to in her LinkedIn profile
 
  • #632
They all communicated with each other a month prior to offence, met up at same point & then after offence went their separate ways


"If there is seldom communication then a certain sudden frequency and then dies down again, it indicates to me that something is going on"

PD asks Botha to measure distance from Cape Rd to Stellen Glen "242m"

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  • #633
PD asks how long ZS was actually in the vicinity of Stellen Glen.
"It appears he drove past the tower at 9:13pm"

Daubermann points to evidence and says it is clear that Sibeko was not scouting. TB agrees

We now look at the cell records of SV & ZS on 15 Apr

Data of ZS indicates his handset received reception at Linton Grange tower at 6:20am. During same time, SV's vehicle drove past the complex

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  • #634
PD says data cannot tell who was in that car. Botha agrees

Further records do not show that SV was in the company of ZS. Cannot say they travelled together to the vicinity of Linton Grange tower

PD says on 15th, records don't show ZS was scouting Jayde's house.
"They weren't in same car but frequent communi & picked up same tower"

Botha believes this amounts to scouting. PD is perturbed by this.

Court adjourns for tea

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  • #635
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family closely huddled together listening to Price


(with the surveillance video on CP in the car with Siyoni and his family still stand by him?)
 
  • #636
PD says if was living in Greenbushes & had good reason to travel up & down Cape Rd. You also can't say if he had business in Fern Glen.

We now move to 16 Apr. SV phones ZS for first time at 04:26am. Several further calls are made

The last call is at 06:20am. Many of the calls in-between were not answered

They end up in different areas. Struandale & New Brighton respectively

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  • #637
PD says Botha doesn't know what the relationship between SV & ZS was, only that they communicated. Don't even know what communi was about

All we have is a hypothesis that he scouted the area

Call records show no contact between SV & ZS on day of abduction & murder. Does this not go against hypothesis that he scouted the house?

MS interjects that this is not for Botha to speculate about.

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  • #638
We move on to Sinethemba Nemembe (SN). He only came into picture on 21 Apr (day of murder)

At 05:51, SV's vehicle drove into SN's residential Str. At 06:03am, the vehicle drives to Kabega Rd

At 6:26, SV phoned SN, both receive reception at Linton Grange tower

At 07:32, both phones pick up reception from KwaNobuhle tower

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  • #639
Sorry to ask this folks but who is PD? I am very late to this case and I have just spent a happy half hour trying to determine who owns these initials but have been unsuccessful. Would someone oblige please to save me many hours of trawling.
 
  • #640
PD says Botha has no evidence to support allegation that prior to 21st, an agreement was made between the two to kill Jayde. Botha agrees

We now look at the cell data in map form

PD says it cannot be said that SN travelled with SV to KwaNobuhle.
"No in the same vehicle but they passed the same points"

PD says it may just be coincidence that SV & SN were in the same areas at the same time.
"Well they were in communication so it's very poss"

PD has no further questions. MS to re-examine the witness.

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