State rests rebuttal case- thread #164

[deedee21]

IIRC, during her interview with Det. Flores she bluffed, halfheartedly offering to take one.

But when Det. Flores offered it she asked if it could help her and then instead of agreeing to take it she called him "weird".

I know, I know.

Bizarre to us, but SOP for JA.

I know. Isn't her "friend" Donovan going to be in some hot water for peddling fraudulent wont it be funny if the buyers are jodi fans.:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::scared: and they all want their money back

 

[LambChop]

Man, please, please, Jur give this woman the death penalty.

Jodi is talking about the wrong person finding peace. She should be more worried about his family and as to whether or not they can find peace. Obviously listening to her on the stand just about everyone is of the same opinion. That Jodi needs to be convicted of 1st degree murder because she earned it and continues to earn it by her present behavior. It is the Law of Attraction after all.....or it's "reap what you sow". Either one will do.

 

[Spellbound]

:newhere:

This is as good a time as any to introduce this major lurker to you, the good people of WS. Thank you for the hours of informative, often enlightening and lively commentary, on the general thread, and the more specialized ones. Really good stuff, very nice people. And a well moderated board, free of garbage.

Anywho - while I'm an avid reader and viewer of fictional mysteries, thrillers and court room drama, this is the first time I pay attention to a real life case. For two main reasons:

1. Travis - While I find Arias to be an average, cunning yet not so smart, type of stalker/killer/loser, the notion that a bright, innocent, full of life young man, the age of my son, could be taken in, then mercilessly slaughtered by this woman, really concerns me. Like many others here, I keep thinking of my own son, and getting nauseated every time. Horrified.
2. Juan Martinez - I'm in awe of this man, his passion, his excellent mind and professional determination to see to it that the ridiculous self-defense claim is thoroughly debunked, and that this horrible killer is punished to the full extent of the law. This prosecutor speaks for me, and countless mothers of young men I'm sure. No Ma'am No, you will not tarnish Travis's memory, after butchering him. No, you will not get away with premeditated murder. Nope, ain't happening. This will not stand, no way, no how. Thanks to Juan Martinez, this Jury has your number, and how.

Finally, let me just say, I'm a lifelong opponent of the death penalty, of the "don't kill nobody on my behalf, not with my hard earned tax dollars, let's not be killers too" persuasion.

On this one though, while I'd be satisfied with Life Without Possibility of Parole, the Death Penalty won't upset me. Why, do you ask? The lies, people, the lying to the face of the Jury. That's the worse kind of aggravating factor, to me. Seriously. How do you sit there, all sworn in and all, and tell us such disgusting boldfaced lie, after lie, after lie.

I want to smack the obnoxious killer chick (and her lawyer sidekick, Lord Have Mercy) a few times, and say: Girl, take a few hundred seats already, with that nasty, gleeful, yes gleeful, murdering attitude of yours. You're on trial for Aggravated, Premeditated Murder Numero Uno, you killer you. How dare you continue to lie to us all. Who do you think you're fooling? You planned it, you did it, you tried (so hard) to cover it up. Give it up already. We got your number, you murdering fool. Curtains for the Arias Circus. Off she goes. Don't let that door hit you, you awful, despicable excuse of a human being.

God forgive me on this Sunday, I want her to be sentenced to death. I so want to hear the statements from Travis's family. I want his siblings to finally have the chance to tell their brother's killer just exactly what they think of her, thus speaking for the rest of us. I feel for you, Travis's family. I do. I pray for you. Stay strong. The Worse Is Over. Justice Will Prevail.:heartbeat:

Hasta luego, people of WS. Had to share. Thank you for reading. Back to lurkdom. :seeya:See you around. M.

A very good post, much of which I also can identify with. From one newbie to another, welcome. I hope you post again! It does get hard to do when the board moves quickly, though. By the time I reply, a whole page can elapse. :scared:

 

[YESorNO]

I feel for Grandma, but a part of me does not. It's natural to feel for her, she is elderly and seems distressed. However, why is she suddenly there? Why now with some of the more gruesome parts of the trial?

I really don't know anything about her. Her age means nothing, I have to keep telling myself that. I question if her distress is for what JA did or is it because she believes JA to be innocent and the distress is for JA and herself?

For all I know, she could be very similar to JA. Sorry if that comes off as harsh, but I question her presence.

I personally think they (DT and JA) made her come at this time. :twocents:
To me, it's just the expression she has- but what do I know; that could be her everyday face. I feel for the way she kept on covering her face. She seems ashamed for her granddaughter (nobody else does in the family). :stormingmad:

 

[HarvestMoon]

I know. Isn't her "friend" Donovan going to be in some hot water for peddling fraudulent wont it be funny if the buyers are jodi fans.:floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::scared: and they all want their money back

Count on it, there's no money to give back.

 

[Nali87]

How many of you own a gun for protection and leave your front door unlocked?

adds this to list of things I wish JM says in CA.

 

[deedee21]

Not guilty on both counts.

If Travis owned a gun for protection his front door would not be unlocked.

 

[TexMex]

There are not enough 'thanks' for this video! Seeing a Martinez summation is truly awesome - and this crime (MOO) was not as despicable.

Highly recommend you watch this. It include not remembering the crime, PTSD and Abuse. Well done, Mr. Martinez!!

Martinez says "this individual shook the sympathy tree" to see what fell to the ground. Even claiming bed wetting :banghead:

 

[Becky Sharp]

I hope the defendant has a real meltdown before this whole thing ends.:fence:

Hmmmm . . . I'm curious about that stun belt. :blushing:

 

[Sydni]

Well ... I never thought I would say this, but HH (on HLN) DOES have at least one redeeming factor. I know she plays a role ... speaking for the defense, but she just gave a summary blurb about the closing arguments.

She said that if she were arguing for the prosecution, she would say (in closing), that in all of the 5000 questions and answers while JA was on the stand what is it "that we did not hear" .... "I'm sorry" ... no remorse. Not even "I'm so sorry I had to do this ... blah blah". That is something that should be driven home by the prosecution. She's right.

Obviously, I am not a HH fan, but I am glad that she said something that makes sense in this case (finally) ...:twocents:

 

[momof7]

If Travis owned a gun for protection his front door would not be unlocked.

I wondered why there was no sound when they were showing the clip of JA and TA together to debunk the myth she was a secret.

Then I thought about what TA was speaking about and thought maybe it would possibly make the jurors think that TA did get a gun for protection after that experience

IMHO. Did we ever find out if it was the DT or the PT that didn't want the sound played?

K

 

[kpm]

I was watching all the old videos of JM's cross of JA. Sorry I forgot the trial day but at one point JM is discussing the day she called DF and DF told her Travis was most likely killed Thursday or Friday. JM asks her something and to paraphrase she said she thought DF was lying or trying to trick her by misstating the day.
How telling that JA was already playing mind games with DF! I think she also admitted she thought the police interrogation was probably being recorded....
I will search for that day of testimony because IMO, JA knew she was prime suspect and was already formulating and scheming based on this...very compelling to me.

 

[YESorNO]

Can this be considered "tertiary gain" ? Or just plain stupidity ?

BOTH :drumroll:

 

[MeeBee]

Robert Towery doesn't take his eyes off JM. Sheesh.

If you've not seen this, have a look at from 04:20. It's part of JM's final arguments, and then watch MelMcDonald's reactions to JM's objections - especially the one at 05:50. There's a great switch from emotion to huffing :floorlaugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaFGq6bVtyg

I have seen now a few of Juan's closing arguments from other cases and he is brilliant. I think his closings are where many of his cases are won. He really knows how to bring it all together and does so eloquently. I also read that his style has the ability to get under the skin of his defense opponents like no one else and causes them to act in ways they normally wouldn't. I think that's what we are seeing in Willmott. I'll wager she is not used yo having her defense so thoroughly dessimated and exposed for the foolishness of it. She was more professional in the beginning and is off the rails now.

 

[Truth Detector]

Count on it, there's no money to give back.

Payment will be made in Arias currency; i.e., autographed copies of her manifesto, used golf pencils, empty Starbuck's Strawberry Frappe cups, empty Cinnabon boxes, the forged recipe on pink paper, dirty Toblerones, used Pop Rocks and one well-worn Tootsie-Roll Pop stick.

I expect we'll soon see Miss Bering hawking the Popsicle-stick splint that Travis made to heal JA's broken digit. :banghead::banghead::banghead:

And don't forget this little number made popular by one of Charlie's more prominent 'angels':

 

[wasnt_me]

How many of you own a gun for protection and leave your front door unlocked?

I have never understood the leaving one's door unlocked thing. I mean, I understand people feeling safe in their neighborhood or feeling that they live too far away from a city for crime, but.....still.....

 

[LambChop]

I wondered why there was no sound when they were showing the clip of JA and TA together to debunk the myth she was a secret.

Then I thought about what TA was speaking about and thought maybe it would possibly make the jurors think that TA did get a gun for protection after that experience

IMHO. Did we ever find out if it was the DT or the PT that didn't want the sound played?

K

It could be that defense fought to keep this video out and JM agreed to show just the tape without sound. Had the jury heard what Travis was saying they would realize Jodi shot Travis in the exact spot where Travis said a gun was held to his head. jmo

 

[SCSam]

People like her can experience shame--shame at being publicly exposed--but never remorse because genuine remorse is based on conscience--something she clearly lacks. As many others have noted, she is all exterior appearances and nothing interior. She's like a black hole (apologies to any physicist here).

Went roaming through old Minute Entries.. interesting.. found this:

Whether the State will be allowed to argue in closing argument during the penalty phasethat the defendant has not shown any remorse will be determined following the close of evidence in that phase.

IT IS ORDERED deferring ruling on this motion until the penalty phase, if any, occurs

 

[Truth Detector]

People like her can experience shame--shame at being publicly exposed--but never remorse because genuine remorse is based on conscience--something she clearly lacks. As many others have noted, she is all exterior appearances and nothing interior. She's like a black hole (apologies to any physicist here).

BBM

I 'wonder'... :waitasec:

How many black holes? :waitasec:

 

[YESorNO]

Robert Towery doesn't take his eyes off JM. Sheesh.

If you've not seen this, have a look at from 04:20. It's part of JM's final arguments, and then watch MelMcDonald's reactions to JM's objections - especially the one at 05:50. There's a great switch from emotion to huffing :floorlaugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaFGq6bVtyg

Gotta love JM---- " Pandering " :floorlaugh::floorlaugh: