State v Bradley Cooper - 3/25/11

[BrownRice]

So, I have listened to this testimony a second time and have taken some notes. Some of this may have already been discussed.

At 2:32am there is a data usage call, this is not the same as receiving or sending text messages. This may be normal at&t activity at this hour.

For the 6:05am call, this is 23 second duration call, 1 second seizure time, and the calling party is seen as 8541511. This call, for some reason, does not show on the billable record. The TWC call records should have an indication of this call. These 1 second seizure times are interesting as it appears to be auto answered, such as calling 4762001. You hear no ringback tones when the call is auto answered as the call is answered immediately. So for a call received by a cell phone to have a seizure time of 1 second it would appear that the cell phone is set to call forward all to VM. Perhaps this is why the call is not billable as the billing part will only occur when the vm is retrieved?

At 6.25am, not on billable record, there is a GPRS call, internet browsing. This is interesting in that the HT records show him entering the store at 6:22am. So this must have occurred right after leaving HT on the first trip.

At 6:34am there is a call received from 8541511, 0 second duration and no seizure time indicated. So this call was neither answered nor forwarded to vm. I wonder if seizure time is recorded for calls that are not answered, the reason I ask this is that the seizure time would indicate the amount of time it took to possibly locate the phone.

At 6:37am, an outbound call to 4672001, 29 second duration with a seizure time of 1 second. This indicates that seizure time must be recorded for outbound calls from cell phone. This call was tracked to cell tower X.

At 6:40am, an inbound call from 8541511, 32 seconds in duration and a seizure time of 8 seconds. This call was tracked to cell tower Y. I am not implying anything odd with the different cell towers. I would only find it interesting to know where cell tower X is located as it relates to where NC's body was found. This is the call from NC according to BC.

At 6:45am a call to cell phone VM, duration of 63 seconds.

At 6:46am receives a text message.

At 6:47am another call to cell phone VM, duration of 25 seconds.

Great summary. Thanks.

 

[Just the Fax]

I said the same thing recently. She would have sent him to the store at that point and not let the 2 year old cry for 2 hours.

HT was open 24/7 and just minutes away.
He was giving her water from a bottle?
I call Bull Sheet.

 

[Cheyenne130]

I don't believe the call at 6:34am had any seizure time. I did not hear any mention of seizure time for this call during the testimony. A 1 second seizure time would indicate the call was answered and therefore the duration could not be 0 seconds. The billing report indicates that duration are round up to whole numbers in minute increments.

Thank you. I saw someone else mention that seizure time is likely not reported if a call is not answered so it isn't a function of a call that is purported to be made to find his phone.

 

[WolfpackWoman]

Okay, so I went back and watched that part of the opening, in it Kurtz says: Brad didn’t know where he put his cell so he found it by calling it from their home phone at (I think he says) 6:05 and then he left the house around 6:15.

I'm sure that's not an exact transcription, the audio on my version keeps going in and out. I didn't see any mention of the 6:34 call in the opening. He does specify the 6:40 phone call from Nancy (while he's sitting at the corner of Tryon and Kildaire), so I'm guessing that one is verifiable by tower. The other calls were lumped into "checking voicemail" etc.

Does anyone know if the description the guy gave today of seizure time is accurate? I thought it was the time it took for the phone to connect to the tower, and then once it started ringing, that would go into the length of the call, but not the seizure time? I am probably wrong though, since neither side bothered to correct it.

 

[sunshine05]

Wow, I really want to know who was called at 6:05. I hope they are able to provide that record soon. What if they find the call was to one of NC's friends? Any guesses what it will turn out to be?

 

[Cheyenne130]

HT was open 24/7 and just minutes away.
He was giving her water from a bottle?
I call Bull Sheet.

I had another point of confusion in the timeline and maybe he just left it out and nobody questioned him about it. He said that he had Katie up in his office when Nancy left for her run. He said that Bella woke up at 8:30 and then the detective said that Katie got up at 9. I never saw anything mentioned about her going back to bed.

 

[Albert]

I wonder what the seizure time would show if the cell was turned off. It would go immediately to voicemail.

In this case I believe the seizure time would be the same value as call forward no answer timer on the cell phone. 20+ seconds is my guess.

 

[sunshine05]

What if the 6:05 call, he called his cell, let it ring and it went into VM? With the recording, maybe it would be 23 seconds.

 

[Cheyenne130]

Okay, so I went back and watched that part of the opening, in it Kurtz says: Brad didn’t know where he put his cell so he found it by calling it from their home phone at (I think he says) 6:05 and then he left the house around 6:15.

I'm sure that's not an exact transcription, the audio on my version keeps going in and out. I didn't see any mention of the 6:34 call in the opening. He does specify the 6:40 phone call from Nancy (while he's sitting at the corner of Tryon and Kildaire), so I'm guessing that one is verifiable by tower. The other calls were lumped into "checking voicemail" etc.

Does anyone know if the description the guy gave today of seizure time is accurate? I thought it was the time it took for the phone to connect to the tower, and then once it started ringing, that would go into the length of the call, but not the seizure time? I am probably wrong though, since neither side bothered to correct it.

The 6:05 call was answered and had 1 second seizure time (I'm pretty sure about this one) so that makes it seem like it didn't ring. The call lasted for 23 seconds. A call to locate your phone wouldn't likely be answered. The 6:34 call was from the home phone to his cell and it was not answered.

 

[Just the Fax]

Okay, so I went back and watched that part of the opening, in it Kurtz says: Brad didn’t know where he put his cell so he found it by calling it from their home phone at 6:05. He left the house around 6:15.

I didn't see any mention of the 6:34 call in the opening. He does specify the 6:40 phone call from Nancy (while he's sitting at the corner of Tryon and Kildaire), so I'm guessing that one is verifiable by tower. The other calls were lumped into "checking voicemail" etc.

Does anyone know if the description the guy gave today of seizure time is accurate? I thought it was the time it took for the phone to connect to the tower, and then once it started ringing, that would go into the length of the call, but not the seizure time? I am probably wrong though, since neither side bothered to correct it.

Ok, thanks for listening to Kurtz again (I couldn't do it)
So the 6:34AM call came from home while he was on the road.
Kurtz will just say it was Nancy and it didn't connect so she called back at 6:40AM

 

[Albert]

Okay, so I went back and watched that part of the opening, in it Kurtz says: Brad didn’t know where he put his cell so he found it by calling it from their home phone at (I think he says) 6:05 and then he left the house around 6:15.

I'm sure that's not an exact transcription, the audio on my version keeps going in and out. I didn't see any mention of the 6:34 call in the opening. He does specify the 6:40 phone call from Nancy (while he's sitting at the corner of Tryon and Kildaire), so I'm guessing that one is verifiable by tower. The other calls were lumped into "checking voicemail" etc.

Does anyone know if the description the guy gave today of seizure time is accurate? I thought it was the time it took for the phone to connect to the tower, and then once it started ringing, that would go into the length of the call, but not the seizure time? I am probably wrong though, since neither side bothered to correct it.

Length of call timer (duration) is only started once both parties are connected, ie., the called party answered the call. Otherwise your cell phone bill would charge you for just calling another device and that called device did not answer nor did the call forward to voicemail.

 

[Lori59]

So, I have listened to this testimony a second time and have taken some notes. Some of this may have already been discussed.

At 2:32am there is a data usage call, this is not the same as receiving or sending text messages. This may be normal at&t activity at this hour.

For the 6:05am call, this is 23 second duration call, 1 second seizure time, and the calling party is seen as 8541511. This call, for some reason, does not show on the billable record. The TWC call records should have an indication of this call. These 1 second seizure times are interesting as it appears to be auto answered, such as calling 4762001. You hear no ringback tones when the call is auto answered as the call is answered immediately. So for a call received by a cell phone to have a seizure time of 1 second it would appear that the cell phone is set to call forward all to VM. Perhaps this is why the call is not billable as the billing part will only occur when the vm is retrieved?

At 6.25am, not on billable record, there is a GPRS call, internet browsing. This is interesting in that the HT records show him entering the store at 6:22am. So this must have occurred right after leaving HT on the first trip.

At 6:34am there is a call received from 8541511, 0 second duration and no seizure time indicated. So this call was neither answered nor forwarded to vm. I wonder if seizure time is recorded for calls that are not answered, the reason I ask this is that the seizure time would indicate the amount of time it took to possibly locate the phone.

At 6:37am, an outbound call to 4672001, 29 second duration with a seizure time of 1 second. This indicates that seizure time must be recorded for outbound calls from cell phone. This call was tracked to cell tower X.

At 6:40am, an inbound call from 8541511, 32 seconds in duration and a seizure time of 8 seconds. This call was tracked to cell tower Y. I am not implying anything odd with the different cell towers. I would only find it interesting to know where cell tower X is located as it relates to where NC's body was found. This is the call from NC according to BC.

At 6:45am a call to cell phone VM, duration of 63 seconds.

At 6:46am receives a text message.

At 6:47am another call to cell phone VM, duration of 25 seconds.

Thanks for the time this must have taken!! :takeabow: Winner of post for the night!

 

[sunshine05]

I had another point of confusion in the timeline and maybe he just left it out and nobody questioned him about it. He said that he had Katie up in his office when Nancy left for her run. He said that Bella woke up at 8:30 and then the detective said that Katie got up at 9. I never saw anything mentioned about her going back to bed.

He said in the deposition that she was calming down finally, he took her upstairs with him to finish the bottle and then I assume she went back to sleep, though I don't think he comes right out and says it directly.

 

[Albert]

What if the 6:05 call, he called his cell, let it ring and it went into VM? With the recording, maybe it would be 23 seconds.

In this case the seizure time would be greater than 1 second

 

[BrownRice]

Can someone explain (again, I apologize) seizure time. Is this only applicable to cell phones?

 

[Cheyenne130]

Ok, thanks for listening to Kurtz again (I couldn't do it)
So the 6:34AM call came from home while he was on the road.
Kurtz will just say it was Nancy and it didn't connect so she called back at 6:40AM

He walked out of HT at 6:25 on the first trip and back in at 6:42 on the second trip. So how long would it take him to get from his house to HT?

 

[Cheyenne130]

He said in the deposition that she was calming down finally, he took her upstairs with him to finish the bottle and then I assume she went back to sleep, though I don't think he comes right out and says it directly.

Thank you. I will admit to watching very little of his depositions so I appreciate all who catch me up.

 

[sunshine05]

HT was open 24/7 and just minutes away.
He was giving her water from a bottle?
I call Bull Sheet.

This is so wide open though,as to what one would do. He said in the depo. that they were trying to get her off the bottle. If she only wanted milk and was fussing, it could go on for a while and maybe they finally broke down and went to the store for the milk. It may not be what you would do, but it's really not *that* unbelievable, to me.

 

[Albert]

Can someone explain (again, I apologize) seizure time. Is this only applicable to cell phones?

Phone A, landline, calls Phone B, cell phone. After Phone A completes the dialing of digits the celluar network must locate the phone and then proceed to setup the call to the cell phone. During this setup time the Phone A user is hearing ring back tone. Once the celluar network locates the cell phone the seizure timer will start. Once the cell phone is answered, either by the cell phone user or by any other device, will terminate the seizure timer.

 

[Cheyenne130]

This is so wide open though,as to what one would do. He said in the depo. that they were trying to get her off the bottle. If she only wanted milk and was fussing, it could go on for a while and maybe they finally broke down and went to the store for the milk. It may not be what you would do, but it's really not *that* unbelievable, to me.

It seems to me that they would need milk for the children whether they were going to give her a bottle or in a cup. Under the circumstances that we've been told about him not giving her the weekly allowance and no food in the house, I have to believe that she would demand he go get milk. Like you said, we don't know what really went on in that house but his version just doesn't make sense with everything that we do know.