State v Bradley Cooper - 3/25/11

[SleuthinNC]

Thanks!

I can understand a missed call to locate your cellphone, but the 23 second call at 6:05 has me intrigued.

The 6:05 call has me very intrigued as well.

 

[cityslick]

Confusing why the 6:05AM call was not on bill?
This guy's testimony was very fast and very confusing.
Thankfully, it was just a technical necessity for foundation so they can now present the real evidence...hopefully concisely so the jurors get it .

I'm intrigued by the 6:05 call as well. I can't remember the explanation as why that call was on one report but not the other. When he called Cisco I believe he was using his cell phone to make that call, so he wasn't locating the phone with that call.

Here is a theory. It's not based on any knowledge on how this stuff works:

The 6:05 call was used to setup/test the landline calling his cell. He set it up to call 30 minutes from that point. 30 minutes later, the test call goes to his cell phone. With the test sucessfull, he calls Cisco to remote run the test again, this time setting it up to send a call in 2-3 mins. At this point he leaves for HT again. The landline again calls his cell 3 mins later. After that I can't explain why he would call his voicemail.

P.S. With now the knowledge of a 6:05 call, that would only give him 15 mins to leave the house, dump the body and get to HT by 6:20, assuming he made that call manually at 6:05. Kind of hurts the theory that he went to the dump site right before HT.

 

[SleuthinNC]

Confusing why the 6:05AM call was not on bill?
This guy's testimony was very fast and very confusing.
Thankfully, it was just a technical necessity for foundation so they can now present the real evidence...hopefully concisely so the jurors get it .

I thought JY was testifying to the call log from the actual phone which would lead me to believe the 6:05 call was deleted from the call log.

 

[LyndyLoo]

I thought JY was testifying to the call log from the actual phone which would lead me to believe the 6:05 call was deleted from the call log.

At this point # ending in 4447 is what I am glued to watch for..Thats is linked to Nancy's cell phone..Didnt Brad say she called him that morning? to pickup milk or sumptin?..Humm..

I really did enjoy sorting out Cell phones and how they track things..tho havent got to the nuts and bolts yet :crazy:

 

[SleuthinNC]

I'm intrigued by the 6:05 call as well. I can't remember the explanation as why that call was on one report but not the other. When he called Cisco I believe he was using his cell phone to make that call, so he wasn't locating the phone with that call.

Here is a theory. It's not based on any knowledge on how this stuff works:

The 6:05 call was used to setup/test the landline calling his cell. He set it up to call 30 minutes from that point. 30 minutes later, the test call goes to his cell phone. With the test sucessfull, he calls Cisco to remote run the test again, this time setting it up to send a call in 2-3 mins. At this point he leaves for HT again. The landline again calls his cell 3 mins later. After that I can't explain why he would call his voicemail.

P.S. With now the knowledge of a 6:05 call, that would only give him 15 mins to leave the house, dump the body and get to HT by 6:20, assuming he made that call manually at 6:05. Kind of hurts the theory that he went to the dump site right before HT.

My theory is very similar

6:05 854-1511 called 1196 23 secs Sets up Call Forwarding

6:34 1511 called 1196 0 sec Test Call Forwarding

6:37 1196 calls 476-2001 29 sec Set IP Phone to call home

6:40 1511 calls 1196 32 sec IP Phone calls home -> Forwards to Cell

6:45 1196 to voicemail for 63 sec I have no idea, erasing voicemail msgs maybe?

6:46 txt to 1196 Again, no idea

6:47 call to voicemail Ditto

 

[SleuthinNC]

At this point # ending in 4447 is what I am glued to watch for..Thats is linked to Nancy's cell phone..Didnt Brad say she called him that morning? to pickup milk or sumptin?..Humm..

I really did enjoy sorting out Cell phones and how they track things..tho havent got to the nuts and bolts yet :crazy:

Wait, the x4447 number is Nancy's cell phone?

 

[LyndyLoo]

Wait, the x4447 number is Nancy's cell phone?

Thats what I heard and was given to understand SleuthinNC..and Im sticken to until I get corrected with eveeedeeence...:floorlaugh: I wrote those #'s down as I heard them..So we will see how it all shakes out ??

ETA~~ I recall this because they spoke about this number during the calls logged July 11th..day before which showed it skipping towers..? is was it tower fluxing or was she in her car?.. Anyway that how I got her #

 

[sunshine05]

Yep, you are wrong.
The ADA already told us they have experts that will testify.
BTW, this At&T guy was put on to set foundation only and was out of order.

Okay, I didn't hear much of the trial today. Maybe that is why he was "out of order". They planned to have him back to back with the expert. So hopefully they start with that on Monday.

 

[Cheyenne130]

Okay, I didn't hear much of the trial today. Maybe that is why he was "out of order". They planned to have him back to back with the expert. So hopefully they start with that on Monday.

Det. Hottie is back on Monday. They are still doing direct exam and then it will be another day or two for cross.

 

[CrimeAddict]

What's frustrating me from the prosecution is that their case seems so scattered. They present stuff to build a foundation on it, but then move to something else without getting to the real evidence of what they built the foundation for. Like the timing of calling Mrs. Rentz. Why would they call her right after calling the people who found the body, etc., but before the medical examiner? It just seems like you want to show everything associated with the body sequentially (ie, from discovery to examination) instead of throwing in Mrs. Rentz testimony. Same thing with the at&t guy today. Now who knows how long it will be before we hear the rest of the cell story. It's just frustrating.

Yes, I agree. Its frustrating and scary because I think we all know deep down we agreee with Mrs Rentz and may see something devastating happen.

 

[CrimeAddict]

So this is interesting. <modsnip> Jessica A. really is proving to be way too involved with this case.

I understand though.. imagine if it was your best friend.. I would be right up in his grill if I believed he did it too.. and very upset if I heard someone say he wasn't guilty if I believe he did and how horrible if it was my best friend and I see this all happen and he gets away with it.

 

[Cheyenne130]

6:05 854-1511 called 1196 23 secs
6:34 1511 called 1196 0 sec
6:37 1196 calls 476-2001 29 sec
6:40 1511 calls 1196 32 sec
6:45 1196 to voicemail for 63 sec
6:46 txt to 1196
6:47 1196 to voicemail

I did not realize that the 6:05 call was from the home phone to his phone. That seems pretty significant to me. I don't recall that one being explained by the defense in his opening.

 

[SleuthinNC]

I understand though.. imagine if it was your best friend.. I would be right up in his grill if I believed he did it too.. and very upset if I heard someone say he wasn't guilty if I believe he did and how horrible if it was my best friend and I see this all happen and he gets away with it.

I can understand being upset and invested in the case however her actions more and more are serving to be more damaging to the prosecution case than helpful.

 

[CrimeAddict]

I can understand being upset and invested in the case however her actions more and more are serving to be more damaging to the prosecution case than helpful.

I totally agree. I Just pictured myself involved like her and besides the fact that it's scarier than anything I could ever imagine, to be watching the case (and the friends just have to be, right?) and seeing the prosecution hasn't proven much yet and then hearing someone out in public supposedly say those remarks would make my blood boil. Again, I agree she is screwing things up but on the other hand I see where she is coming from and personally I am starting to think he will go free because this does not seem organized and its freaking me out.

 

[Cheyenne130]

I totally agree. I Just pictured myself involved like her and besides the fact that it's scarier than anything I could ever imagine, to be watching the case (and the friends just have to be, right?) and seeing the prosecution hasn't proven much yet and then hearing someone out in public supposedly say those remarks would make my blood boil. Again, I agree she is screwing things up but on the other hand I see where she is coming from and personally I am starting to think he will go free because this does not seem organized and its freaking me out.

I'm usually the impatient one. (I've often said that I think that I was put on this earth to learn patience and at the rate I'm going, I will live forever.) I can see the plan. I hope I'm right. I think they are trying to arrange their case to bring in all the most damning evidence as close to the end of their portion as they can. Finding out that the 6:05 call to his phone came from the home phone is very interesting. The call at 6:37 to the Cisco office system is very interesting. I hope the necklace tells a story. If not, it should have come in with all of the other non-evidence. And we still have that computer evidence that has the defense so worried that they are doing everything that they can to try to negate it. I have hope for this team. I wish Zellinger could examine ALL the witnesses but (unfortunately) that's not my call.

 

[CrimeAddict]

I'm usually the impatient one. (I've often said that I think that I was put on this earth to learn patience and at the rate I'm going, I will live forever.) I can see the plan. I hope I'm right. I think they are trying to arrange their case to bring in all the most damning evidence as close to the end of their portion as they can. Finding out that the 6:05 call to his phone came from the home phone is very interesting. The call at 6:37 to the Cisco office system is very interesting. I hope the necklace tells a story. If not, it should have come in with all of the other non-evidence. And we still have that computer evidence that has the defense so worried that they are doing everything that they can to try to negate it. I have hope for this team. I wish Zellinger could examine ALL the witnesses but (unfortunately) that's not my call.

Thanks for your input, I do agree the amount of phone calls in the morning is very bizarre it just HAS to raise red flags to the jury. At this point, I feel as though they are bored and ready to get out of there and seriously tired of the slowness of that particular Prosecutor.. Funny thing is that the judge doesn't seem irritated with him, just with Kurtz... he must be pretty familiar with that DA then.. and know his style.. and has accepted it for years.. that' just my guess..

 

[Albert]

6:05 854-1511 called 1196 23 secs
6:34 1511 called 1196 0 sec
6:37 1196 calls 476-2001 29 sec
6:40 1511 calls 1196 32 sec
6:45 1196 to voicemail for 63 sec
6:46 txt to 1196
6:47 1196 to voicemail

So, I have listened to this testimony a second time and have taken some notes. Some of this may have already been discussed.

At 2:32am there is a data usage call, this is not the same as receiving or sending text messages. This may be normal at&t activity at this hour.

For the 6:05am call, this is 23 second duration call, 1 second seizure time, and the calling party is seen as 8541511. This call, for some reason, does not show on the billable record. The TWC call records should have an indication of this call. These 1 second seizure times are interesting as it appears to be auto answered, such as calling 4762001. You hear no ringback tones when the call is auto answered as the call is answered immediately. So for a call received by a cell phone to have a seizure time of 1 second it would appear that the cell phone is set to call forward all to VM. Perhaps this is why the call is not billable as the billing part will only occur when the vm is retrieved?

At 6.25am, not on billable record, there is a GPRS call, internet browsing. This is interesting in that the HT records show him entering the store at 6:22am. So this must have occurred right after leaving HT on the first trip.

At 6:34am there is a call received from 8541511, 0 second duration and no seizure time indicated. So this call was neither answered nor forwarded to vm. I wonder if seizure time is recorded for calls that are not answered, the reason I ask this is that the seizure time would indicate the amount of time it took to possibly locate the phone.

At 6:37am, an outbound call to 4672001, 29 second duration with a seizure time of 1 second. This indicates that seizure time must be recorded for outbound calls from cell phone. This call was tracked to cell tower X.

At 6:40am, an inbound call from 8541511, 32 seconds in duration and a seizure time of 8 seconds. This call was tracked to cell tower Y. I am not implying anything odd with the different cell towers. I would only find it interesting to know where cell tower X is located as it relates to where NC's body was found. This is the call from NC according to BC.

At 6:45am a call to cell phone VM, duration of 63 seconds.

At 6:46am receives a text message.

At 6:47am another call to cell phone VM, duration of 25 seconds.

 

[Cheyenne130]

So, I have listened to this testimony a second time and have taken some notes. Some of this may have already been discussed.

At 2:32am there is a data usage call, this is not the same as receiving or sending text messages. This may be normal at&t activity at this hour.

For the 6:05am call, this is 23 second duration call, 1 second seizure time, and the calling party is seen as 8541511. This call, for some reason, does not show on the billable record. The TWC call records should have an indication of this call. These 1 second seizure times are interesting as it appears to be auto answered, such as calling 4762001. You hear no ringback tones when the call is auto answered as the call is answered immediately. So for a call received by a cell phone to have a seizure time of 1 second it would appear that the cell phone is set to call forward all to VM. Perhaps this is why the call is not billable as the billing part will only occur when the vm is retrieved?

At 6.25am, not on billable record, there is a GPRS call, internet browsing. This is interesting in that the HT records show him entering the store at 6:22am. So this must have occurred right after leaving HT on the first trip.

At 6:34am there is a call received from 8541511, 0 second duration and no seizure time indicated. So this call was neither answered nor forwarded to vm. I wonder if seizure time is recorded for calls that are not answered, the reason I ask this is that the seizure time would indicate the amount of time it took to possibly locate the phone.

At 6:37am, an outbound call to 4672001, 29 second duration with a seizure time of 1 second. This indicates that seizure time must be recorded for outbound calls from cell phone. This call was tracked to cell tower X.

At 6:40am, an inbound call from 8541511, 32 seconds in duration and a seizure time of 8 seconds. This call was tracked to cell tower Y. I am not implying anything odd with the different cell towers. I would only find it interesting to know where cell tower X is located as it relates to where NC's body was found. This is the call from NC according to BC.

At 6:45am a call to cell phone VM, duration of 63 seconds.

At 6:46am receives a text message.

At 6:47am another call to cell phone VM, duration of 25 seconds.

Thank you so much for the additional information. Looking forward to someone connecting the dots.

 

[Just the Fax]

I did not realize that the 6:05 call was from the home phone to his phone. That seems pretty significant to me. I don't recall that one being explained by the defense in his opening.

It wasn't.
No need to bring it up in the opening because there is apparently no tale he could tell that would be believable. Sounds like it will be very compelling evidence.

 

[sunshine05]

It wasn't.
No need to bring it up in the opening because there is apparently no tale he could tell that would be believable. Sounds like it will be very compelling evidence.

Why couldn't this be the call to locate his cell phone? This phone stuff is very confusing.