State v Bradley Cooper - 3/25/11

[BrownRice]

I don't recall Brad mentioning anything about having a sick child.

ETA: There was no milk in the house for the children. Actually according to the detectives there was little in the way of food. They had Nancy's milk and Brad's milk and none for the children. It seems to me that milk for a four year old and a two year old would be a necessity whether or not a two year old is on a bottle, cup or just needs it for cereal.

When was this recognized? Was it on Saturday, 7/12, or when they were searching the house? Did the girls drink all the milk he bought at HT? For some reason I'm just starting to process this now. Been too involved with the phones and $300 allowance.

 

[sunshine05]

I don't recall Brad mentioning anything about having a sick child.

ETA: There was no milk in the house for the children. Actually according to the detectives there was little in the way of food. They had Nancy's milk and Brad's milk and none for the children. It seems to me that milk for a four year old and a two year old would be a necessity whether or not a two year old is on a bottle, cup or just needs it for cereal.

I'm not sure exactly why you're so hung up on the milk and no food. I think they were seriously strapped for cash but no milk does not = crime took place.

My kids don't even drink milk so we only have it in the house for coffee. It is not a major deal to be out of milk and has nothing to do with this case, except that he decided to buy some after 6.

 

[ncsu95]

Where did you hear there were no other calls? He claimed to have talked to Mike Hiller about canceling tennis and then the call from JA and then the call back to her looking for CC's #. Did records show no calls today???

If he was home, he would have used his home line.

 

[Just the Fax]

I have never heard of a person transporting a body in a vehicle and having no trace whatsoever of that taking place. No tire tracks, no hair, DNA, blood, clothing fibers. Not one fiber.....nothing. How can this be? Shop Vacs aren't that good. I have to have serious doubt there was a body in that car.

That trunk was unusually spotless. Easy to vacuum fibers and hair. Supposedly no blood. Body fluids could be cleaned ....his hint to cover that obvious chore was he spilled gas. IMO, the fact that they found zero trace evidence is more suspicious than finding her hair or clothing fibers (could be explained as she used the car).

 

[Cheyenne130]

When was this recognized? Was it on Saturday, 7/12, or when they were searching the house? Did the girls drink all the milk he bought at HT? For some reason I'm just starting to process this now. Been too involved with the phones and $300 allowance.

I'm pretty sure it was on 7/12 and I don't think they were mentioning the organic milk since he told them that he had purchased it that morning. I honestly don't know. I would have to go back and look. I just know that they mentioned they had the lactose free milk for Nancy and the skim milk that Brad said he bought for himself while the girls were out of town.

 

[ncsu95]

Good pointer for the ADA. Show the jury that this flury of calls from 6AM to 7AM is highly unusual , especially for a Saturday.

He did work Friday and was at home doing nothing after he put the girls to bed.
If he had VM's or missed calls, seems likely he would have taken care of it Friday evening.

We don't know if this was unusual. If I was the ADA and this was unusual, I would have showed his weekend cell usage for the past x months to show that he doesn't deal with work things on Saturday morning. Maybe it wasn't unusual so they didn't show it. I have no idea.

 

[Maja]

Everyone is different. I nursed my son until he was 2. He also drank from a bottle until close to age 2. It is not a very odd situation. Just because you personally did this with your kids doesn't mean everyone does. And I don't think a jury would find this suspicious, jmo.

I'm questioning if she was on a bottle at all. Giving her a bottle with milk during sleeping time is discouraged by pediatricians for oral health (being she would have a whole set of teeth by two). I do suppose NC's family would have taken notice if the little lady did not take/use a bottle when they took custody. Same for anyone who cared for her during the days immediately following.

 

[ncsu95]

I'd like to see Saturday phone records for BC for the previous 6 months (or any other extended period) to see if 7/12's morning was atypical for him. Perhaps it's not?

I guess we think alike. I posted the exact same thing before I read yours.

 

[BrownRice]

I'm not sure exactly why you're so hung up on the milk and no food. I think they were seriously strapped for cash but no milk does not = crime took place.

My kids don't even drink milk so we only have it in the house for coffee. It is not a major deal to be out of milk and has nothing to do with this case, except that he decided to buy some after 6.

But Brad specifically said he had to go to HT for milk - his entire alibi starts with milk. The food/no food is a non-issue to me too. Perhaps Saturday was grocery shopping day. Perhaps she didn't feed them a lot of processed food and went to the market frequently to buy fresh food only. My home is like that. Looks bare, but it's only because I buy fresh most often.

 

[Just the Fax]

We don't know if this was unusual. If I was the ADA and this was unusual, I would have showed his weekend cell usage for the past x months to show that he doesn't deal with work things on Saturday morning. Maybe it wasn't unusual so they didn't show it. I have no idea.

Of course we don't know for sure.
I did lay out a scenario that would make it highly improbable.

 

[BrownRice]

Of course we don't know for sure.
I did lay out a scenario that would make it highly improbable.

Well, if it's not unusual for BC to have that flurry of activity on weekend mornings, Kurtz and friends can simply show us. End of story. He walks free.

 

[sunshine05]

I'm questioning if she was on a bottle at all. Giving her a bottle with milk during sleeping time is discouraged by pediatricians for oral health (being she would have a whole set of teeth by two). I do suppose NC's family would have taken notice if the little lady did not take/use a bottle when they took custody. Same for anyone who cared for her during the days immediately following.

Oh, I'm sure the neighborhood women would have set that straight right away if she wasn't drinking from a bottle.

 

[sunshine05]

Well, if it's not unusual for BC to have that flurry of activity on weekend mornings, Kurtz and friends can simply show us. End of story. He walks free.

I think even if it's not typical, it still couldn't convict him unless there is something else.

 

[Just the Fax]

Well, if it's not unusual for BC to have that flurry of activity on weekend mornings, Kurtz and friends can simply show us. End of story. He walks free.

:floorlaugh:

 

[CrimeAddict]

I guess we think alike. I posted the exact same thing before I read yours.

Sounds like they need some help. Maybe we should write a list of things they need to do and send them an email. lol

 

[sunshine05]

That trunk was unusually spotless. Easy to vacuum fibers and hair. Supposedly no blood. Body fluids could be cleaned ....his hint to cover that obvious chore was he spilled gas. IMO, the fact that they found zero trace evidence is more suspicious than finding her hair or clothing fibers (could be explained as she used the car).

The murderer always misses something though, don't they? In cases like this, they always find evidence. I can't believe they ignored the shop vac after learning how clean the trunk was. Does that make any sense?

 

[BrownRice]

:floorlaugh:

You're laughing? Why?

If there is no proof he spoofed the calls AND his normal Saturday routine was making all of these crazy calls, it shows NC was alive in the a.m. It's highly unlikely he killed her after HT since his kids would have been awake and would have heard something. No?

I am sober by the way. :crazy:

 

[Just the Fax]

I think even if it's not typical, it still couldn't convict him unless there is something else.

Well of course you need something else. It wont just be he made a bunch of suspicious calls. They will need to show he likely spoofed the 6:40 call. That is the one that counts.

The computer evidence scares the crap out of Kurtz.
I'm thinking that will be very powerful evidence showing guilt.

 

[Cheyenne130]

Sounds like they need some help. Maybe we should write a list of things they need to do and send them an email. lol

I'm not sure that you need to. From my experience with some other cases it has come to the attention of blog/forum owners that some defense and prosecutor offices have monitored the boards. It's a smart thing to do. They want to know how average citizens, who are ones who end up being on juries, think.

 

[Cheyenne130]

You're laughing? Why?

If there is no proof he spoofed the calls AND his normal Saturday routine was making all of these crazy calls, it shows NC was alive in the a.m. It's highly unlikely he killed her after HT since his kids would have been awake and would have heard something. No?

I am sober by the way. :crazy:

It's the particular activity that makes me curious. And I'm not hanging everything on the phones. The defense is more worried about the computers and it seems in particular that IBM Thinkpad. Right now I'm waiting for that evidence.