State v. Bradley Cooper 4-6-2011

[gbay]

not for American citizens which the children were

The kids may have dual citizenship.

 

[cityslick]

I have...reason being that if he died early she would have a means to provide for the children.

Why not just have the children as beneficiaries then and a custodian who's responsible for that until their 18. That's how I have it done with my ex-wife (son is beneficiary but my sister is custodian of that money until 18).

 

[gracielee]

BBM

This is what I was responding to. I know it's a first draft, that's why I specifically stated the first draft was unfair.

I've never gotten a divorce. In the scheme of things, this first draft didn't seem particularly aggressive to me. From what I do have knowledge of, friends, relatives, etc., this agreement, considering Brad's salary, really didn't strike me as excessive.

 

[LyndyLoo]

The kids may have dual citizenship.

As a Canadian, I can say that Nancy as a Canadian would have to apply for this dual citizenship ..and it would take some period of time, but would no doubt be recognized since they were dependents...

 

[obsessive]

The point being - this aggressive first draft is not congruent with a woman who simply wants to move on quickly. Think about it - how do you present something like that to a man like BC who supposedly is "all about the money" and expect it to get signed without an attorney shitstorm? She was fully within her rights to push back with Ms. Stubbs and say "let's just present him with a great offer so I can get the heck out of here." Many, MANY women do that...not NC.

I think it speaks of her feelings toward him. She was ANGRY and wanted to hurt him. He dragged her to another country and she was stuck here unable to work while he was living large and messing around. She wanted to start a new life and wanted to get everything she could out of him to do it because she probably felt justified under the circumstances. I'm pretty sure she would have "re-thunk" her position on it had she known he might kill her. Hind sight is always 20/20 though.

 

[gbay]

Why not just have the children as beneficiaries then and a custodian who's responsible for that until their 18. That's how I have it done with my ex-wife (son is beneficiary but my sister is custodian of that money until 18).

I guess both are viable options.

 

[Maja]

Wonder the reason Stubbs didn't catch these behaviors NC discribed as potentially explosive and recomment NC consider other living arrangements.

 

[grommet]

Haha - they thought it *would* be amicable after sending out that first outrageous proposal?!!? :floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[borndem]

Stubbs -- What a champion and advocate for Nancy. I'm glad she had this outlet and wise confidante. A fine person and attorney. So sad it never worked out...

 

[gracielee]

Well he never even bothered to get a lawyer. How could they mediate? Nancy was willing to do whatever she could to resolve the separation agreement, Brad didn't hire a lawyer.

 

[gbay]

I've never gotten a divorce. In the scheme of things, this first draft didn't seem particularly aggressive to me. From what I do have knowledge of, friends, relatives, etc., this agreement, considering Brad's salary, really didn't strike me as excessive.

I think the majority of people take their lead from their lawyer because they don't have prior experience.

 

[cityslick]

I guess both are viable options.

It's more of a trust (or distrust) issue. If the ex-wife is the beneficiary, that money cannot be accounted for (100% guaranteed going to the children) vs. having the children as beneficiaries you know that money will be used towards them per your wishes to the custodian.

 

[ncsu95]

As the lawyer said, this was a first draft, and she said 'certainly not an *aggressive* first draft. $2100 dollars a month to support two children, from a man who earned somewhere between $125,000 to $150,000 the previous year, is a mere pittance IMO. What is that, a little over $25,000 dollars a year?

It was much more than $2100/month. That was only 1 portion of it. That doesn't include alimony, private school, all extracurricular activities, the life insurance policies, all of the travel costs for the children, etc. $125k is actually not that much. The agreement was ridiculous. Nancy needed to readjust her expectations of life as a single mom.

 

[raisincharlie]

It was a first draft, what about that don't you understand? Negotiations begin. Nowhere does it say this is the be all and end all.

Add in the movement toward mediation and it seems to me Nancy was definitely willing to get on with this as soon as possible.

 

[JiminWilton]

I think the best information of the trial is going to be blanked out...the computer stuff

Source? Rationale? Theory? Experience?

Elucidate

 

[Palomine]

Brad probably got real nasty when he found out his LOVER was getting a divorce ...and he could be with her (heather)

 

[happy2binNC]

Well he never even bothered to get a lawyer. How could they mediate? Nancy was willing to do whatever she could to resolve the separation agreement, Brad didn't hire a lawyer.

He tried but the check for his retainer bounced.

 

[ncsu95]

if he was on salary ...which I presume he was I took his salary and divided it by 365 that works out to roughly 368. per day

I said he doesn't take home that much. He has to pay taxes and health care out of that. It's probably close to $250 per day.

 

[SleuthinNC]

What was that "He's going back to the bank to open an account for me"

 

[LyndyLoo]

Wonder the reason Stubbs didn't catch these behaviors NC discribed as potentially explosive and recomment NC consider other living arrangements.

I think likely realized after the fact..sadly..I think most lawyers in Family law know they get complaints from their clients..and likely do advise IF they feel Life Threatened to GET OUT..but being her lawyer she also advised the legalities of abandonning the home too...All this started early 2008..and after that April initial agreement offer, there was no further negotiations between attny's nor Brad..NO Mediations either..I am sure NOW in heinsight Ms Stubbs has regrets..

I still say that IF Interact was utilized by Nancy..especially near the end, things would be much different..in fact we likely wouldnt be here at all!!