State v. Bradley Cooper 4-6-2011

[RaleighNC]

That's why I said in another post that it was important to see if that fxo is accounted for at Cisco.

Depending on how $$$ that costs - it may not be tracked as a capital asset or something that they track in their systems. Low dollar stuff simply isn't tracked because of the volume of stuff like that floating around.

For example, your laptop is likely tracked, but if you buy an external keyboard, it won't be.

Where I work - it is determined if it is a capital expenditure or an expense purchase.

 

[LyndyLoo]

LOL ... it's been a long phase! The other important one to know is 2.54 cm/in.

Of COurse...that means our meter is 40" and US meter is 36"...

 

[LyndyLoo]

Depending on how $$$ that costs - it may not be tracked as a capital asset or something that they track in their systems. Low dollar stuff simply isn't tracked because of the volume of stuff like that floating around.

For example, your laptop is likely tracked, but if you buy an external keyboard, it won't be.

Where I work - it is determined if it is a capital expenditure or an expense purchase.

What would be interesting would be IF they ever found this FXO at the office..IF not I tend to think it went by the way like those shoes did :maddening:

I think this is why the pros took that video of all the equipment in Brad's office..wonder IF this witness can scan thru those videos and locate it?????

 

[jmflu]

Are you authorized to play music softly @ work? If yes, perhaps the trial soft in the background of your work? That's what I do.

I myself tried that...at some point my boss said, "Do you hear someone talking?"

 

[RaleighNC]

What would be interesting would be IF they ever found this FXO at the office..IF not I tend to think it went by the way like those shoes did :maddening:

Or - if the corresponding software that was likely needed to run this was installed and then removed or erased as part of the mil spec disk wiping extravaganza.....

I would expect that the ip telephony lab would have at least one of these..

 

[otto]

Of COurse...that means our meter is 40" and US meter is 36"...

A meter is 39 inches, a yard is 36 inches.

 

[Palomine]

LOL ... it's been a long phase! The other important one to know is 2.54 cm/in.

oh yeah and kilometers

 

[Maja]

I believe he was obsessing about killing her - I am not sure he had a real "plan" per se - down to the date, etc. just that he was going to do it.

The evening of the party - SOMETHING happened - and this pushed him to execute his plan. the catathymic crisis. I believe it was also something that maybe in the emails he was reading immediately prior to her coming home.

I believe that this shows why some things will be shown to be so methodical, and others issues not as well "covered"

I think he is way too calculating as an individual and as an engineer (they are just wired differently) to just 'lose it' - I see him more of a planner.

MOO

Do you think the tennis game was set up in order to make things look normal? What time did he call to cancel the game? Did he appear irritated to his friend (don't recall name) about having to cancel?

 

[borndem]

I think this witness brought some Meow Mix with him today......

 

[Cheyenne130]

I missed part of the testimony but did they mention yet whether or not the FXO port was needed when he had the Cisco phones running in his house or is it only needed to make a call remotely?

 

[LyndyLoo]

A meter is 39 inches, a yard is 36 inches.

:floorlaugh: And I like to believe I am Metric System Savy :floorlaugh:

It all started back in 1969 cause that when I was in the middle of Nursing school and had to learn al that conversion tables...Yikes..Mind boggled me..The rest of the world (Canada) didnt get exposed to it til the '70's..

Anyway..When I look at the gas prices of $1.26 a liter..I still do conversion to US costs..when I read all the complaints about their prices for gas.....I think..o yeah..why dont Canadians complain??..We are far too mum on complaining :floorlaugh:

 

[NCEast]

I missed part of the testimony but did they mention yet whether or not the FXO port was needed when he had the Cisco phones running in his house or is it only needed to make a call remotely?

I'm sorry, I don't know. So much of this is over my head but I do recognize a score for the prosc. when one happens.

 

[NCEast]

:floorlaugh: And I like to believe I am Metric System Savy :floorlaugh:

It all started back in 1969 cause that when I was in the middle of Nursing school and had to learn al that conversion tables...Yikes..Mind boggled me..The rest of the world (Canada) didnt get exposed to it til the '70's..

Anyway..When I look at the gas prices of $1.26 a liter..I still do conversion to US costs..when I read all the complaints about their prices for gas.....I think..o yeah..why dont Canadians complain??..We are far too mum on complaining :floorlaugh:

Back in the late 70s, the US said this country was going to convert to the metric system, etc. A couple of speed limit signs were put up and that was the end of it. Nothing further has been done or said. I think the American public
made it clear it was not needed or necessary. Probably, too, that many would not be able to learn the conversion, myself included

 

[FullDisclosure]

So this witness is going to explain that it is possible to do this using an FXO and that Brad had access to an FXO through work. However, he would still have to use the Cisco Call Manager to initiate the call, and there would have to be records of that, right?

Good question. We need to know that, and we need to know if the FXO can be accounted for. If there would be no record of the call, AND if the FXO magically disappeared, then I might begin sliding off the fence.

 

[Albert]

So this witness is going to explain that it is possible to do this using an FXO and that Brad had access to an FXO through work. However, he would still have to use the Cisco Call Manager to initiate the call, and there would have to be records of that, right?

My guess is that Unity, the voice mail system, is going to come into play. You can have Unity place a call based upon receiving an email. The records would be available if obtained in time. However I believe that we are about to hear a possibility of how a call could have originated from the home phone and that call is basically automated.

 

[borndem]

Depending on how $$$ that costs - it may not be tracked as a capital asset or something that they track in their systems. Low dollar stuff simply isn't tracked because of the volume of stuff like that floating around.

For example, your laptop is likely tracked, but if you buy an external keyboard, it won't be.

Where I work - it is determined if it is a capital expenditure or an expense purchase.

Yes, that's my experience, RaleighNC -- if an item is deemed a "fixed asset," it is numbered with a tag (as my PC and the screen were) affixed to it, and both items were listed separately in a database. The cost of such things could be amortized over the years, and then it goes into the netherworld (as far as I was concerned!) of accounting, and financial business record-keeping. Smaller-cost items were simply "expensed." This is common thru-out most business, I'm sure.

 

[borndem]

Of COurse...that means our meter is 40" and US meter is 36"...

Hmmmm....that must be why you Canadians are so tall -- right?? :lol:

 

[LyndyLoo]

Back in the late 70s, the US said this country was going to convert to the metric system, etc. A couple of speed limit signs were put up and that was the end of it. Nothing further has been done or said. I think the American public
made it clear it was not needed or necessary. Probably, too, that many would not be able to learn the conversion, myself included

You guys ( Americans) must go crazy when you visit up here or spend much time here to figure it all out :floorlaugh:..Course Us guys Canadians find it much easier when travelling in Europe to figure things out....:floorlaugh:


OK..We're due back in court within 10 Minutes...Back on topic :great:

 

[RaleighNC]

Do you think the tennis game was set up in order to make things look normal? What time did he call to cancel the game? Did he appear irritated to his friend (don't recall name) about having to cancel?

Nope- tennis game set up prior to reading the emails late 7/11 - and before Nancy came home from the party - i.e. I'll call that the trigger event - either the content of the emails or Nancy came home aggressive / argumentative and the plan got put into action. That part was spontaneous, I think.

Planned to kill her - didn't have a date. Was obsessing over the act, but not the timeline.

So - it was business as usual until.......

 

[johnfear]

I'm sorry, I don't know. So much of this is over my head but I do recognize a score for the prosc. when one happens.

This may or may not help some of you who are curious about where they are headed here.

http://www.3cx.com/PBX/FXS-FXO.html

I hope they are going somewhere with these "foundations" but I have a feeling that a rough translation of what we are going to see at the end is:

Ladies and gentleman of the jury, we have a mixed bag here. He could have ______. He did _______. He was _________.

_______ + _________ + _________ + BC = 1st degree murder.

Because a lot of this looks like spaghetti and kitten chow thrown on the wall at this point. The closing should boil it down in a nice time-line (a la Sleuthygal) for them.

But, again, I think Alice Stubbs did some SERIOUS damage to the pros. today. She basically provided reasonable doubt in a nutshell.

I think we will have a jury struggling over the idea of anger killing versus first degree murder.

We have clearly witnessed premeditated retaliation to a divorce, but I can tell you from experience that it SUCKS to have a law firm check bounce and that would have sent me into popping kittens out of every pore. (Mainly because of how threatening and unrealistic divorce attorneys start out to be to get to "resolution").

At this point, with all the convoluted technological crap and the fact that they have summed it up to be possibility after possibility, we have lost the idea of premeditation of murder. This guy was definitely ALL of the the other things we are calling him and POSSIBLY a "rage killer".

But proving that he "snapped" crushes the first degree murder and puts the burden of proof on the prosecution to prove the length of time she was asphyxiated. (Give me til midnight and I get off work and go over this one with case law in North Carolina if you'd like) The idea here (with this trial) seems to be that he "snapped" and that the strangulation was what made it first degree, but they have muddied the waters so badly, I don't think this jury will come back to it. I keep hoping for an amendment to the indictment mid-trial to include the 2nd degree, but I think THAT would lay the ground for a hung jury because it would call into doubt everything else they've done for the State.

Remember that there is an awful case going on in Hickory where a women is alleged to have chain sawed a little girl she abused for two years and THAT case was only indicted as second degree.