State vs. Jason Lynn Young 02-29-12

[Turnadot]

The way I look at it is that in the scheme of things, the blood on her feet is not going to hurt her whereas leaving her alone she could fall down the stairs or get hurt in some other way. Also since she was found in the master bedroom she could have easily gotten bloody again.

It also doesn't make sense to me that if JY did it, that he would have allowed her anywhere near the crime scene - so she would have been around the crime scene while he was still there if he cleaned her up. A random killer may have not realized that CY was there.

Maybe after Jason cleaned her up and put her back to bed, he assumed she'd stay there quite a while, sleeping.

OTOH, maybe random killer cleaned her up...then just left here there.

This is truly a WTF whether it was Jason or not.

 

[fromageball]

I see what you're saying, but something to me that argues against that is that there is very little disturbed around MY to indicate a big struggle (no pictures, lamps, etc., knocked over). It seems like she was bashed to start with right there in the bed and never had a chance. Also, if one buys CB's testimony, then it was a boy-girl team. To me, whether JY did it or a stranger, it doesn't seem rape was the motive.

However, it isn't impossible that someone would stalk a beautiful woman and attack her when they saw they chance - it certainly happens too often.

Good point.

The only reason I came up with rape is that it doesn't appear that the house was burgled except for a few pieces of jewelery missing.

JY would have to be a complete #*&#$*#*$& to have done this - and maybe he is. If he drove hours through the night to murder his wife, I would think he would at least try to make it look like a robbery or do something to make it look someone else could have done it. Why would anyone casually wear their own shoes while murdering someone? He planned well enough to use an alternate vehicle(assuming that since no blood at all was found in his) but he wore his own shoes?!

In this case we have someone who appears to have come in the house, killed MY, and then left. If JY did this, why would he think, given the circumstances, that LE would look at anyone but him?

 

[oakayfine]

Does anyone else wonder why JY filed no claim of robbery/theft when the claim was filed for damage to the house ? His mom made a list of things missing for LE, yet no claim for a $14,000 ring and other jewelry PY stated was missing in her list ?

Probably the same reason that same sister was not called to testify.
He had no problem trying to all his friend about American Home Shield the night of the murder after he arrived at the Hotel to try to get insurance AFTER the heat pump and garage door were broken. He had no problem increasing the life insurance policy (doubling it).

And why, if Cas was so important to him, did he not file for that life insurance policy to help retain an attorney if she meant so much to him? That should have given him more than enough money to fight that battle.

Everything about what he has done is crazy. the entire purpose of a Life Insurance Policy is so that you can pay for things once your loved one is gone.

 

[Elisaa444]

Jy didnt have much of a choice, but to leave CY behind. What else could he do?? He cleaned her and put her to bed. Did he like leaving her alone? Probably not. He didn't have a choice but to leave her. IMO, he just killed CY's mother...he can't take CY with him. I believe he thought maybe she would perhaps sleep a little later in the morning (w medinice or not),,, since she had gotten up for a period of time and then he got her back to sleep ...hoped to get someone (MF) to the house as soon as he could....jmo only


Moo moo moo

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Missed the last 30 minutes of court session today. . .Re: Closing Arguments tomorrow, JY didnt take the stand, who goes first, last, rebuttal? Also, does anyone know of the charges, 1st degree, 2nd degree? TIA

Hey, maybe we’ll have an (Al Pacino). . .'And Justice for All', closing argument moment, lol

I didnt think he would take the stand after the Prosecutor played his entire testimony from the first trial. I am sure his lawyer told him there was no need to since the jury had already seen his testimony.

The state said they would go last and the defense will go first.

The charges are First or Second Degree.

IMO

 

[SteelerGirl43]

Jy didnt have much of a choice, but to leave CY behind. What else could he do?? He cleaned her and put her to bed. Did he like leaving her alone? Probably not. He didn't have a choice but to leave her. IMO, he just killed CY's mother...he can't take CY with him. I believe he thought maybe she would perhaps sleep a little later in the morning (w medinice or not),,, since she had gotten up for a period of time and then he got her back to sleep ...hoped to get someone (MF) to the house as soon as he could....jmo only


Moo moo moo

Again why not call his SIL earlier than he did.... 2 yrs olds don't sleep all day.... My nephew is around that age and hes up with the chickens NO matter what time he went to bed...

 

[~n/t~]

The camera at the hotel at Hillsville? The old maintenance guy had testified that at 5 10 he could barely touch it, and that he got a step ladder to plug it back in. When I observed it in person last night, I definitely believe I could have touched it, and I'm also 5 10.

So, the maintenance guy needed a step ladder? Anybody know how tall Jason is? So is the theory that he walked behind the camera and moved it and pointed it upwards toward the ceiling?

Does anyone have a picture of the camera? Most cameras are placed strategically in areas where nobody could tamper with them. I'm having a hard time believing someone can just reach up and move a surveillance camera.

 

[gritguy]

Good point.

The only reason I came up with rape is that it doesn't appear that the house was burgled except for a few pieces of jewelery missing.

JY would have to be a complete #*&#$*#*$& to have done this - and maybe he is. If he drove hours through the night to murder his wife, I would think he would at least try to make it look like a robbery or do something to make it look someone else could have done it. Why would anyone casually wear their own shoes while murdering someone? He planned well enough to use an alternate vehicle(assuming that since no blood at all was found in his) but he wore his own shoes?!

In this case we have someone who appears to have come in the house, killed MY, and then left. If JY did this, why would he think, given the circumstances, that LE would look at anyone but him?

I think whoever did it didn't need an alternate vehicle, because they apparently were able to stop creating traceable evidence (except one bloody smudge on a door handle) upstairs. Which is unfortunate obviously as it leaves some of the story unknown.

Any husband who kills his wife should know LE will look at them, yet they do it anyway. Of course, since they are usually the first person looked at, I would think when someone innocent is targeted the spouse group faces higher chances of that. Nevertheless, I don't think it makes JY less likely to be the killer just because LE would certainly look at him. I can see why people scrutinize the state's case for that reason. While those on the G side see what he had to gain, those on the NG side see what he did lose and stood to lose.

Whoever did this was a *$&Q)%(* I agree. Whatever the reasons for what happened in that room, it was an overkill - complete brutality.

 

[Turnadot]

He could have called her @ 8 that morning.... That would have made more sense IMO anyways... He could have said hey Meredith ya know yesterday I was in a hurry & forgot those papers in the printer or hey M I just got up & realized I didnt have those papers could u please go get them...

Yes, it does make more sense, but more often than not, after people murder someone for the first time, they aren't expecting the adrenaline rush and general disorientation; it's like being a bit drunk, and trying to think logicaly and clear. A lot LE refers to this as the full tilt boogie. Mistakes are made during the crime, even by the smartest of killers. Cassidy waking up was a mistake, an event Jason had not calculated in his plan. So what to do? In his state of mind, he reasons to clean her up and put her back to bed, and wait hours for when he thinks she might be waking, to make the call to sister-in-law.

It, to me, is as simple as that. He was a killer in CYA mode and thought leaving Cassidy sleeping and waiting until the very last second to make the call was his best option.

Another miscalculation on his part: Cassidy wasn't sleeping.

IMO

 

[gritguy]

So, the maintenance guy needed a step ladder? Anybody know how tall Jason is? So is the theory that he walked behind the camera and moved it and pointed it upwards toward the ceiling?

Does anyone have a picture of the camera? Most cameras are placed strategically in areas where nobody could tamper with them. I'm having a hard time believing someone can just reach up and move a surveillance camera.

He said he used a step ladder to plug it back in. Not sure if I could have pulled that off or not w/o one; it would have been close. JY is taller than me.

You can DEFINITELY get to that camera without being on it, b/c there is a hall door just behind it and under it. In fact, I walked under it like that last night. I could have certainly titled it up without being on it (and I think even at my height), except it is now in a bubble. However, I'm not positive all the cameras there are that low.

eta: posts from last night's site visit from yesterday's thread:


In fact, I just checked out that camera (both cameras on the west end).

At 8pm this evening I was at the Hampton Inn in Hillsville. I went through the glass door; there is a camera above it that will capture you if you going down the hallway, but it certainly looks possible to not be caught on it if you take the immediate right to the stairwell. Not sure though.

Once you open the stairwell door the camera is above you pointing toward the stairs; the emergency exit that got propped would be on your right. You could have (and somebody did) push it up from below before entering its field of view. It has a bubble on it now.

I exited the emergency door that was propped open and drove by to my house in Raleigh off Penny Rd. very near Birchleaf in two hours and thirty two minutes, driving in a conservative manner.

Whoever did turn it up, whether JY or not, was apparently not caught doing it on video or even being close to it then. However, that camera is directly over a hallway access door pointing out toward stairs and if you come in that door you are actually underneath and slightly behind the camera when in the doorway. So whoever pushed it could easily have done that without (and apparently must have) appearing in the recorded field of vision, IMO.

 

[Madeleine74]

I would think he would at least try to make it look like a robbery or do something to make it look someone else could have done it.

Like taking 2 jewelry drawers out and with him?
Like removing MY's wedding/engagement rings?
Like adding shoe prints in blood in a size that was smaller than he wore, and with no proof he had those shoes?

He did attempt to make it look like a robbery and also tried to make it look like someone else with size 10 feet were there. It didn't fool LE, and the things he took were kind of strange to people who have seen what robbers go for, but he did make some attempt.

 

[~n/t~]

Jy didnt have much of a choice, but to leave CY behind. What else could he do?? He cleaned her and put her to bed. Did he like leaving her alone? Probably not. He didn't have a choice but to leave her. IMO, he just killed CY's mother...he can't take CY with him. I believe he thought maybe she would perhaps sleep a little later in the morning (w medinice or not),,, since she had gotten up for a period of time and then he got her back to sleep ...hoped to get someone (MF) to the house as soon as he could....jmo only


Moo moo moo

So the theory is he cleaned her up and put her to bed but when Meredith got there she was awake and her foot prints were all over the place?

I need someone to explain this to me, please. Who said she was cleaned up?

 

[hindsight2020]

Gritguy, if possible, can you explain the difference between 1st degree and 2nd degree murder and how it would be applied to this case? Thx

 

[oceanblueeyes]

He said he used a step ladder to plug it back in. Not sure if I could have pulled that off or not w/o one; it would have been close. JY is taller than me.

You can DEFINITELY get to that camera without being on it, b/c there is a hall door just behind it and under it. In fact, I walked under it like that last night. I could have certainly titled it up without being on it (and I think even at my height), except it is now in a bubble. However, I'm not positive all the cameras there are that low.

It seems like if it was reachable to tilt upward he would have just done that instead of taking the chance to unplug it.

IMO

 

[Madeleine74]

His family compiles a list of items stolen (6 months after the murder) but doesn't claim any stolen items on the homeowner insurance policy. Does that make sense?

Why not report what is stolen right away? Why wait 6 months? Why not report it to the insurance company?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Gritguy, if possible, can you explain the difference between 1st degree and 2nd degree murder and how it would be applied to this case? Thx

I am not Gritguy of course but First degee means it was a premeditated crime.

Second degree would mean it was more like a crime of passion and happened out of the blue with no premeditation involved.

IMO

 

[oakayfine]

He could have called her @ 8 that morning.... That would have made more sense IMO anyways... He could have said hey Meredith ya know yesterday I was in a hurry & forgot those papers in the printer or hey M I just got up & realized I didnt have those papers could u please go get them...

Someone, I can not recall who, has already testified that they would never call Meredith before Noon. It was a standing joke in the family, so he waited until later to call her. (this testimony may have even been JLY's from the previous trial).

 

[Turnadot]

Whoever the killer was, considering their state of mind given the violence and adrenaline rush, did a good job of containing the scene. It's remarkable to me.

IMO

 

[gritguy]

Gritguy, if possible, can you explain the difference between 1st degree and 2nd degree murder and how it would be applied to this case? Thx

will post in the legal thread (a/k/a the sleep maker) shortly.

 

[hindsight2020]

I am not Gritguy of course but First degee means it was a premeditated crime.

Second degree would mean it was more like a crime of passion and happened out of the blue with no premediation involved.

IMO

Thx ocean blue. . . interesting. . . don't know why, but, I was under the impression that only 1st degree murder was an option in this case