State vs. Jason Lynn Young 02-29-12

[otto]

Where on the wall was the mark(s)?? How high??? The photo Im looking at shows lil prints low on the wall.. Maybe like she was playing in the blood.. Yes I know thats bad, but its something a 2 yr old may do.. Not really understanding...

Also in the pic what is the gold looking cloth?? Towel? blanket?

I think I heard that it was a housecoat or something like that.

From WRAL trial gallery

 

[Just the Fax]

If they had immediately filed the insurance report, that would have been declared heartless, I'm sure.

Why is that, Wolfpack?
That's why you pay premium, right?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I do think Jayson did this but I am afraid that the State has left a lot to be debated either way.

I would think that if Michelle was able to scratch her own neck then surely she was trying to scratch the hands that were around her neck trying to pry them off.:waitasec:

 

[Wolfpack]

Why?

I assume it was nearby, like in the bedroom closet, for example.

That's just my assumption. But I can't imagine keeping things that could be used as weapons in my closet. So, I just think he either had to plan it and bring it with him, or stash something nearby just in case. In those instances, he would have planned on the blood.

If it were narrowed down to hammer, candlestick, crowbar, etc., then I guess that would give me a better idea.

I guess I don't have anything in my bedroom that would double as a weapon, and that's what I'm basing it on (except for the guns... but that's not exactly relevant ).

 

[JSR]

It may have been months before they even knew anything was missing.

Maybe they thought Michelle's rings and earrings were seized from the scene.

Not everyone is thinking about filing an insurance report or collecting on insurance money......


jmo

BBM.

But apparently $$$ was on Jason's mind or he wouldn't have been thinking about taking a hit on the house or worrying if he would be able to keep the house hours after he "learned" of his wife's murder. The point is that if $$$ meant that much to Jason, and it appears that it does, then he in keeping in line with his behavior that night would have claimed the items stolen sooner rather than later. And six months later seems a little odd.

 

[gritguy]

I think the problem I have with the theory that this was supposed to be a strangulation with little to no blood is that there was likely a weapon used. And without knowing what it is, I assume it was taken from a garage, or something, not something typically left around a bedroom.

Did he bring a weapon just in case? Or did he grab a candlestick off the dresser? A lot of questions pros may have to answer in their closing.

I think if he did it, he clearly would have had a weapon in the vehicle or one left at the ready in the house (more probable) for his eventual return and use. The web searches are meant from the state for us to conclude that's how he planned it, so if I buy their theory I think a haphazard spur of the moment weapon is unlikely.

So, if he planned to strike with a weapon, would he have expected a lot of blood? I took from the web searches his intent to be as precise as possible with a knock out item. From that to the crime scene is a leap. To make the distance shorter, I should have paid attention to (and didn't) the description of wounds to Michelle and the probably characteristics of the weapon derived from those.

I think a sharp weapon would point to the idea that one wasn't planning to have no blood transfer.

 

[Turnadot]

I do think Jayson did this but I am afraid that the State has left a lot to be debated either way.

I would think that if Michelle was able to scratch her own neck then surely she was trying to scratch the hands that were around her neck trying to pry them off.:waitasec:

I personally thing he's guilty, but I won't be the least bit surprised if it's a hung jury, or even a NG verdict.

 

[SteelerGirl43]

Regarding the outside lights..I know someone was asking about the lights being on outside. I was looking at the CS photos... In photo # 3 it looks like the porch lights were on... Im tired & maybe my eyes are just seeing things, but it looks as if the lights on the porch are on.....
The garage door is halfway up also....

 

[Cammy]

I do think Jayson did this but I am afraid that the State has left a lot to be debated either way.

I would think that if Michelle was able to scratch her own neck then surely she was trying to scratch the hands that were around her neck trying to pry them off.:waitasec:

Me too, and she had somehow ripped out her own hair.

To think the killer walked away unscathed is hard to believe.

Michelle scratched her own neck and was trying to pull the hands of her attacker off of her.

Somewhere, someone had marks or scratches on them, and they were wearing a Size 10 shoe.

IMO

 

[Wolfpack]

Why is that, Wolfpack?
That's why you pay premium, right?

It seems to me, that no matter what the reaction is, someone will criticize it in some way. Even though JY never attempted to cash out on his insurance, it's still considered a motive. Would you say "that's why you pay premium" and he should have tried to collect, and no one would have faulted him?

 

[Just the Fax]

I think the problem I have with the theory that this was supposed to be a strangulation with little to no blood is that there was likely a weapon used. And without knowing what it is, I assume it was taken from a garage, or something, not something typically left around a bedroom.

Did he bring a weapon just in case? Or did he grab a candlestick off the dresser? A lot of questions pros may have to answer in their closing.

Don't forget the 'head blow knockout' plan.
Seems he carried that out before the strangulation, as evidenced by the pool of blood in the bed.

 

[fromageball]

Once murder turned into a mess, it seems like he would at least try to smudge out the foot prints he left in blood. Or even take the pillow with the foot print on it.

Is the theory that he only meant to strangle her to death? I've also heard that he probably delivered a few blows while she was still in bed. If he just wanted to strangle, why wouldn't he just try to pin her down and strangle her?

If there was a weapon(which I guess we can't really know) then it would seem like it was not meant to just be a strangulation. Did the prosecution/ME/anyone ever mention a weapon in the trial or was that just mentioned here?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Why is that, Wolfpack?
That's why you pay premium, right?

You have to purchase an individual policy covering jewelry and it can be quite high according to the value of the jewelry.

Did Jayson have this type of insurance.

We have it and it is a separate policy from our homeowners insurance. My husband also has a vast gun collection and is insured under another policy.

IMO

 

[Madeleine74]

But insurance did pay for the repairs to his house. Mr. Nationwide was on the stand testifying to just that. I'm sure there was a claim of $27K or so. So why not include the items that were stolen? That doesn't make sense to me. Unless they weren't really stolen, afterall.

 

[Wolfpack]

I think if he did it, he clearly would have had a weapon in the vehicle or one left at the ready in the house (more probable) for his eventual return and use. The web searches are meant from the state for us to conclude that's how he planned it, so if I buy their theory I think a haphazard spur of the moment weapon is unlikely.

So, if he planned to strike with a weapon, would he have expected a lot of blood? I took from the web searches his intent to be as precise as possible with a knock out item. From that to the crime scene is a leap. To make the distance shorter, I should have paid attention to (and didn't) the description of wounds to Michelle and the probably characteristics of the weapon derived from those.

I think a sharp weapon would point to the idea that one wasn't planning to have no blood transfer.

Makes sense, and that's how the PT should tie it together. One knock out blow with a weapon, and you wouldn't expect blood.

 

[johnfear]

Why is that, Wolfpack?
That's why you pay premium, right?

Question for you JTF, mainly because I know how near and dear you are to this case.

If he was smart enough to bring extra shoes, gloves, etc and possibly spare clothes/coverall of some form for the murder, but was betting on a strangulation, why bother with the extra shoes?

There's no blood in a strangulation.

But, if he was planning the bludgeoning, and got more than he bargained for, why go with the Hushpuppies?

Also, how could he have avoided the injuries overall other than maybe Kevlar or Tyvek?

And no, this is not a post in sarcasm. I saw something today that made me :waitasec:

 

[Turnadot]

That's just my assumption. But I can't imagine keeping things that could be used as weapons in my closet. So, I just think he either had to plan it and bring it with him, or stash something nearby just in case. In those instances, he would have planned on the blood.

If it were narrowed down to hammer, candlestick, crowbar, etc., then I guess that would give me a better idea.

I guess I don't have anything in my bedroom that would double as a weapon, and that's what I'm basing it on (except for the guns... but that's not exactly relevant ).

Oh I hear you. I can posit many things, but I wish the weapon could have been narrowed down. Though I still don't think he planned the blood; I think he planed for it to be a quick, knock-out blow, but it got out of hand. The searches indicate to me that he wanted this to be a clinical killing, not a mess.

IMO

 

[JSR]

I personally thing he's guilty, but I won't be the least bit surprised if it's a hung jury, or even a NG verdict.

Neither will I. After the Pinellas 12 debacle it's clear you can never predict cases.

Do I think JY killed his wife, absolutely. But I will concede this isn't a rock solid case. It's certainly not as strong as the Anthony case but then again I thought that was rock solid and we all know how that result went.

 

[evelyn24]

He hit her 10 times, correct? I do fully understand what you are saying and do agree that it can mean that the killer was someone known to the victim.

However overkills by strangers are done more often than some may think.

I could list many such cases of overkill by a stranger but one of the top of my head is the Sarah Walker case out of Texas. She was hit 22 times and stabbed also and the perp turned out to be an ex-felon who did not know Ms. Wallker. He was just a ruthless killer who probably had rage to begin with and just mean as h*ll.

IMO

Yea but, overkill by strangers is usually done along with committing another crime. Walker was raped, and so was the other case mentioned by another user; the Tim Hennis case. It was a rape then murder, and then he killed the kids because they were witnesses. Remember he came to supposedly buy the family dog a few days earlier and stayed for a bit talking with Katie Eastburn and her kids. Came back a few days later and raped and killed her and her two older kids who would recognize him as the man who wanted to buy their dog, he left the baby alive though.
Sometimes with stranger over kill you'll see there is a robbery gone bad, maybe the perp is on drugs.

Why was Michelle killed? She wasn't sexually assaulted and there wasn't a robbery. The house is out in an area where it's not sitting on a main street or highway, so anyone lurking or watching the house would have been spotted.
Who would kill a pregnant woman when there was no rape or robbery like in the other stranger overkill cases mentioned?
Just break in and kill for no reason? Who had the motive or desire to see her dead and took it out on her like that?
I don't think it was a stranger. Sorry.

 

[Cammy]

I think if he did it, he clearly would have had a weapon in the vehicle or one left at the ready in the house (more probable) for his eventual return and use. The web searches are meant from the state for us to conclude that's how he planned it, so if I buy their theory I think a haphazard spur of the moment weapon is unlikely.

So, if he planned to strike with a weapon, would he have expected a lot of blood? I took from the web searches his intent to be as precise as possible with a knock out item. From that to the crime scene is a leap. To make the distance shorter, I should have paid attention to (and didn't) the description of wounds to Michelle and the probably characteristics of the weapon derived from those.

I think a sharp weapon would point to the idea that one wasn't planning to have no blood transfer.

I always wondered if Michelle kept something by the bed, and maybe the attack started out sexual, and she grabbed the weapon to defend herself, hit

the attacker, and that made him furious, and he grabbed the weapon away from her and began hitting her in an uncontrolled rage.

I have always thought this was not even a murder that was supposed to happen........it just got out of hand, and then of course,

the killer did not want to be identified.....so, he had to kill her.

JMO