State vs. Jason Lynn Young 03-01-12 (P.M. session: PT closing arguments)

[NCB]

Opps, SailorMoon--my non-NC native-ness is showing--pocketbook, not purse.

 

[Stella5]

The sign applies to the front door. Hicks testified it was unlocked at 6 AM and all others locked 24/7. If Holt tried to pass it off as applying to a side door, she is contradicting her own witness as well as misrepresenting the evidence.

It is irrelevant what happens at other hotels.

JMO

The sign from the Hampton Inn itself... side door. Guess the sign is lying.

http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/image_gallery/9726260/
picture #34

 

[foltster]

The sign applies to the front door. Hicks testified it was unlocked at 6 AM and all others locked 24/7. If Holt tried to pass it off as applying to a side door, she is contradicting her own witness as well as misrepresenting the evidence.

It is irrelevant what happens at other hotels.

JMO

How have we all missed this. I thought part of the states timeline is JY coming back in the (unlocked) side door after the rock is kicked out. I guess they could say he still had it propped with a twig that wasn't kicked out?

 

[fifteen89]

thanks Becky Holt for making the jurors "feel" what Michelle went through in her marriage .......what she went through that night.

I can't imagine being brutally beaten, knowing my 2 yr old was nearby, or perhaps even in the same room, knowing my unborn son was being denied the right to even take his first breath, knowing we were going to die......

I can't imagine looking in those cold, wild, rage-filled eyes as I'm taking my final breaths and knowing it is my husband, the father of my children that is beating my life out of me.

It was probably also breaking Michelle's heart that their daughter could walk in and see her Daddy at any moment. I can't begin to imagine what was going through her mind in her last moments.

 

[MyBelle]

The sign from the Hampton Inn itself... side door. Guess the sign is lying.

http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/image_gallery/9726260/

I don't believe the hotel clerk was lying.

JMO

 

[terminatrixator]

Wow, Howard is making some amazing points, I pray Jurors are paying attention!lease:

 

[pjcitizen]

We see him exiting without the suitcase he entered with. Or do you think he came back in after we see him leave?

We see him exit the hotel at night to get his charger (I think ?) and then the camera dies. Then we know he goes back to his room because there are computer searches done. Then we know he goes down to the lobby and goes "smoke" and we see him on the lobby camera. We don't see him leaving with his luggage or without his luggage in the morning (or at all).

 

[gritguy]

The sign from the Hampton Inn itself... side door. Guess the sign is lying.

http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/image_gallery/9726260/

Yes I saw that the sign on the SIDE DOOR at the exact hotel in issue and went in the hotel without a keycard. I exited through the metal door that was propped open.

 

[luckyme]

I think his computer was also in the room. I agree it is odd to pop downstairs with door open, but I find it more perplexing that he would leave the computer in the room all night with door unlocked. I disagree with you on the no brainer. IMO

He also said he propped his door to his room. He didnt want to disturb the guest by sliding the keycard! moo

 

[SailorMoon]

Opps, SailorMoon--my non-NC native-ness is showing--pocketbook, not purse.

I lived in Raleigh for a while, one of my sons was born there. It's just not a word you hear often. Or maybe I don't listen, heck I don't know. I could just KISS HC right now. Keep bringing it brother.

 

[NCB]

HC: Elmer's prints were not on camera, and we know he fixed camera, so absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

 

[fromageball]

So anyone could have tampered with the camera. Anyone at all...

 

[gritguy]

How have we all missed this. I thought part of the states timeline is JY coming back in the (unlocked) side door after the rock is kicked out. I guess they could say he still had it propped with a twig that wasn't kicked out?

You didn't miss it. The sign is at the side door. It really, truly is. Both sides agree. The glass door is locked at night til early morn; the fire door is locked all the time, except when propped open.

 

[pjcitizen]

How have we all missed this. I thought part of the states timeline is JY coming back in the (unlocked) side door after the rock is kicked out. I guess they could say he still had it propped with a twig that wasn't kicked out?

No you didn't miss anything. The sign at the SIDE door right next to the fire exit door says it is locked at 11PM-6AM. JLY came in that door after 6AM, slipped right into the door on the right and tilted the camera up IMO. Gritguy went to this same hotel the other day and it was unlocked at 7:30PM.

 

[oakayfine]

Can the opposing side make objections during closing arguments? Just curious.

 

[SteelerGirl43]

MOO is that he was all packed up and just came back to the hotel to get the receipt for proof, nothing left in the room. JMO.

So the guy who put the receipt under the door didnt notice it was propped open??

 

[gritguy]

Great pic at pic 33/34. You see the sign on the side door as well as how close the door is to the stairwell. Still looks like that today!

http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/image_gallery/9726260/

you can see the cameras are not high. the one shown on pic 33/34 you can see is just about door height. the one in the stairwell is just over the door. they are not way up in the air.

 

[MyBelle]

How have we all missed this. I thought part of the states timeline is JY coming back in the (unlocked) side door after the rock is kicked out. I guess they could say he still had it propped with a twig that wasn't kicked out?

The State is desperate for the jury to believe those side doors were unlocked at 6 AM. What they haven't explained is how did Young also avoid the security cameras covering all those doors but maybe they are hoping the jury is too stupid to connect the dots. Hicks was quite clear that only the front door was locked at night and unlocked at 6 AM. All others locked 24/7. The sign applies to the front door. A pathetic move on the PTs part but it doesn't surprise me.

JMO

 

[gritguy]

Can the opposing side make objections during closing arguments? Just curious.

You can but it typically doesn't happen. Attorney has to be way out in left field.

 

[Stella5]

http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/image_gallery/9726260/

Also just wanting to point out the camera at the side entry door and how easy it would be to flip it up at 6:35 a.m. after the doors are unlocked for the day without being caught on camera.

Picture #33