State vs. Jason Lynn Young 03-01-12 (P.M. session: PT closing arguments)

[~n/t~]

I have to think that the talking heads are enjoying critiquing the closing arguments, but the picture that the prosecution painted is rather clear. The defense seemed to start by floundering, then they "rehabilitated" their inconsistent shoe comments. Is the story that the shoes went to goodwill, did a stranger come into the home and put on his shoes before attacking Michelle? That seemed like a serious mis-step That alone sounded like the defense didn't know what they wanted to say - almost sounded unprepared.

I agree. The shoes and then if I understood correctly, they alleged the killer took CY outside to clean her up and then took her back inside. Makes absolutely no sense.

I think the defense actually helped the prosecution.

 

[3doglady]

"Better to let 10 guilty men free than one innocent man suffer."

What if those 10 guilty men kill 10 innocent people? Those 10 innocent people have numerous family members that suffer. I think Jy is guilty and there's no way I could vote ng knowing that my vote would cause additional suffering.

 

[~n/t~]

I believe JY is guiltier than sin itself but I honestly believe the overkill is a moot point for either side.

It's a long believed but (imo) erroneous presumption that overkill is solely indicative of a relationship between the perpetrator and victim. Overkill or extreme violence is seen in many serial and mass murders as well as hate crimes.

That being said research indicates over 60% of uxoricides (wife-murders) studied exhibited overkill.

For me I guess its not that I believe he murdered Michelle because of the overkill but rather I believe he murdered Michelle and the overkill further supports that belief iykwim.

Great point.

 

[Wolfpack]

What if those 10 guilty men kill 10 innocent people? Those 10 innocent people have numerous family members that suffer. I think Jy is guilty and there's no way I could vote ng knowing that my vote would additional suffering.

It's a quote by William Blackstone.

 

[CBTampa]

Oh I agree - I don't think he was angry for a second during his drive to commit the deed. Probably going through a hundred things he needed to do. I'm actually pretty impressed with his planning and overall ability to cover up most of his tracks. Instead of anger, determination, seriousness, and in the very back of his head - excitement. He was about to be rid of his problem and yoo-hoo, back to being a bachelor. Or, excuse me, a young professional widower, as he advertised himself on Craig's List. A widower can be very attractive to women, especially with a cute little daughter. Oh poor man, let me make you feel better.

I hope JY is enjoying his last meal at CB tonight with his family (I'd say friends too but that doesn't seem possible) since it will be one of his last nights out.

He was on Craig's List? I am sorry, I did not start following until the retrial.

 

[LOMom]

You know, in light of the fact that LE was not able to interview JY as they do suspects in other cases, I am extremely impressed with the amount of evidence presented by the state and the case they were able to put forth - it was good. Imagine if JY had talked to LE the evening of 11/3 - he would be going on his 5th year in prison already.

 

[BritsKate]

And him throwing his ex on the bed doesn't mean yrs later he killed his wife.....

It does mean he has the capacity to disregard and disrespect women. It does indicate he has the capacity to intimidate, control, and threaten. It does prove he has the ability to exhibit irrational violence. All very prime examples of an abusive profile.

Is it proof of murder? Absolutely not. Is it a piece of a larger puzzle? Absolutely, in my opinion.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I have to think that the talking heads are enjoying critiquing the closing arguments, but the picture that the prosecution painted is rather clear. The defense seemed to start by floundering, then they "rehabilitated" their inconsistent shoe comments. Is the story that the shoes went to goodwill, did a stranger come into the home and put on his shoes before attacking Michelle? That seemed like a serious mis-step That alone sounded like the defense didn't know what they wanted to say - almost sounded unprepared.

I was sort of shocked that the PT used some of the DTs theory. All along they have said that Jason alone planned, plotted and carried this out yet they did interject that someone else could have been there. It shows they could not get around the size 10 unknown shoe prints in blood being there. They also could not get around Cass being so clean yet was in the home with her mother's murdered body for hours and hours after they estimated Jayson murdered her around 4:30 am.

Surely if they believe one of Jayson's male friend helped him would they not search high and low for that person? Yet they mentioned no one that it could have been. I dont think a female would be wearing a size 10 shoe and these prints were more visably seen in the blood than the HPs which was only seen using forensic techniques.

I dont think the DT was unprepared. While I do think Jayson did this there are just something that do not add up even with the State's theory.

They did do a good job by showing what a sickening perverted jerk he is but I am not sure that is enough for 12 people to come to the conclusion of a guilty verdict.

I would love to be wrong though but we never know how 12 individual people are receiving all of this.

IMO

 

[3doglady]

It's a quote by William Blackstone.

I know. Lol. I thought you were quotlng it because it mirrored your view.

 

[Lucky89]

I think HC & BC did a great job!! JY is ""GUILTY"" as the day is long!! The jury might not see it this way and of course they may find him not guilty but JY has to live with what he has done!!

 

[citygirl]

:fence:

Where did I say JY cared how many were used???? I just said thats an awful lot of baby wipes being used....

He could have just as easily used a wet wash cloth and a wet towel. It went in the bag with her pull up and all the other incriminating evidence.

 

[octobermoon]

And him throwing his ex on the bed doesn't mean yrs later he killed his wife.....

Would that be okay for him to do to you? Hurt her like that?

 

[Wolfpack]

I know. Lol. I thought you were quotlng it because it mirrored your view.

Haha, okay. Yes, it absolutely does though. I cannot imprison someone who might be guilty, just for the sake of "just in case". I think it's the utmost affront to justice if an innocent man is convicted.

 

[Madeleine74]

I'm very pleased with the outstanding job by the state during this rodeo, especially during closing arguments.

They have brought forth just about everything, and put the pieces together in a way that should allow the picture to emerge for a group of average citizens using common sense.

There will not be the perfect smoking gun 'gotcha' moment, not in this case and not in the vast majority of murder cases. Heck there was one in the Cooper case and then people had to go to conspiracy theories to try and discredit it because afterall, a smoking gun is just "too convenient."

So people want a smoking gun, but then if they get one they immediately don't trust it and think someone else manufactured it. Alrighty then.

In this case the perp (JY, IMHO) covered many of his tracks. But not the tracks that counted though...not the ones he left in his wife's blood in his house, wearing his own HP shoes. And not in King, NC when his pleasing personality/temper got the best of him and he got himself and his vehicle remembered. Even the exact pump he used (the furthest one from the store) was remembered, along with which side the gas was pumped.

And not the emotional tracks. He couldn't feign grief because he felt nothing but disdain and anger for his wife, even after he pounded her head in 30+ times. He couldn't bother with any level of interest in this case other than hoping it would never be solved.

The picture is clear to me and I have absolutely zero doubt as to who murdered MY. I hope the jury delivers the justice that has been absent for so long in this case. In any event, I am glad the state finally brought their A game to this case.

 

[SteelerGirl43]

Would that be okay for him to do to you? Hurt her like that?

Never said it was ok.... It almost ended our friendship because I let him have it....

 

[citygirl]

It's possible Jason told him the truth - he had someone remove Cassidy and bring her back (his sister, Kim Young?). That would be the only thing that made sense - any other killer wouldn't do that.

Good point. She sort of resembles the person with blonde hair in the purple warm up suit. The doll at nursery school. And isn't she a veterinarian? The jury didn't hear that part of CY's utterances about animals, but ya gotta wonder? I really wonder what sized shoe she wears? Could she be a size 10? Possibly. She looks rather tall in the funeral pictures.

 

[octobermoon]

Never said it was ok.... It almost ended our friendship because I let him have it....

Just keep safe. Please. MY could have lived to see her daughter and son grow.

 

[Wolfpack]

Good point. She sort of resembles the person with blonde hair in the purple warm up suit. The doll at nursery school. And isn't she a veterinarian? The jury didn't hear that part of CY's utterances about animals, but ya gotta wonder? I really wonder what sized shoe she wears? Could she be a size 10? Possibly. She looks rather tall in the funeral pictures.

A men's size 10 is roughly a woman's size 12. That would frankly (or Franklin) be a HUGE female foot.

 

[JSR]

Maybe I shouldn't have made that comment, but going by what some of you say every person abused will be killed when its simply not true.... Thats my point..That happened 5 yrs ago & he's never laid a hand on her since.. Wasn't being snarky....
So if it bothered some of you I'm sorry..... I to have been in an abusive relationship.. Stayed in in for 9 yrs.... Was I ever afraid he would kill me? no.. He just wasnt that type of person....

BBM.

Many women in abusive relationships feel the same way you stated above but they still ended up six feet under ground.

Every single relationship that is physically abusive has the potential for ending in homicide. People just don't causally tell people who are in abusive relationships to run don't walk away. They say run because you should, and fast.

 

[ohiogirl]

This sort of reminds me of Bobby Cutts. Left his son there. It has been done.

I'm with you there. The fact that CY was left in the house in no way makes me feel it wasn't JY. jmo

P.S. B Cutts, being LE, was an idiot, imo.