State vs Jason Lynn Young 2-10-12

[Boodles]

Who else strongly disagrees with ending not just early but at this point in the case? I'm not too thrilled.

What's to disagree about? They ran out of witnesses due to being ahead of schedule.

 

[Cammy]

I wonder if she had counselling after the incident in college or whether she still had unresolved issues based on the previous assault.

I don't know, but that was sad to hear.

People bring all kinds of issues into a marriage or relationship without meaning to.

One of the biggest problems we always heard about JY and MY is that she
liked to plan things, and he was more of a "in the moment kind of guy", so that probably aggravated the situation.

Either way, they were not a good fit, but I am still going to wait for the entire case to be played out, like the Judge just told the Jurors.

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JMO

 

[dgfred]

Life happened, women were pregnant, babies were born before cell phones were invented. A husband that was at work or away from phones while his wife was pregnant was not the end of the world.

That sure does resemble 'other' arguments/excuses I have heard TRYING to explain/excuse away the unexplainable.

Not the end of the world, but WHY do that when you DIDN'T have too???

What is easier-
one call to spouses cell phone
or
At least a call to the hotel, hotel rings room, if he doesn't answer, they have to locate him, what if they can't???

That is a weak argument IMO.

 

[BritsKate]

Scott Peterson and Mark Hacking are just two (high-profile) examples of men who murder their pregnant wives with no history of physical violence.

Intimate partner homicide has remained among the leading causes of death for pregnant women for well over a decade.

FWIW

 

[Cammy]

Who else strongly disagrees with ending not just early but at this point in the case? I'm not too thrilled.

Perhaps the state thought the defense would take up time on cross,
the defense decided they did not need to.

Therefore, the day ended early.

JMO

 

[~n/t~]

Ah, the jury can go home with the last testimony presented that from the counselor. IMHO, that helps the prosecution.

On a different note, MANY THANKS to all posting updates as to what is happening for those of us that can't watch or listen. I rely on your updates to keep up!

:tyou::yourock:

bbm

Ditto from me!! Thank you:wave:

 

[dgfred]

Do we know that he intentionally turned off his cell phone? Every once in a while my cell phone will turn off during the night after the battery drains and I don't know it until I check it in the morning. Wouldn't it be possible that something like that happened that night?

If you go on a business trip it might be a good idea to take a charger.

 

[TexasCharm]

Michelle said that Jason was a practical joker and good fun but it sometimes went too far for her ... he didn't stop when she'd had enough.

... speaks to boundary issues ..

Knowing when enough is enough .. and no is no ..

imo

 

[Cammy]

That sure does resemble 'other' arguments/excuses I have heard TRYING to explain/excuse away the unexplainable.

Not the end of the world, but WHY do that when you DIDN'T have too???

What is easier-
one call to spouses cell phone
or
At least a call to the hotel, hotel rings room, if he doesn't answer, they have to locate him, what if they can't???

That is a weak argument IMO.

Jason called Michelle and told her exactly where he was and where he was staying.

Can you imagine if she called him during the nite, and the clerk had to go to his room, and no Jason...........:what:

Or, if the hotel fire alarm went off and all 49 rooms were accounted for, except #421?

 

[dgfred]

the phone being off bothers me.

moo

Me too... just like the 'get the fax printout' calls, since he was such a loving and considerate person.

 

[fifteen89]

what a heart breaking headline.


fran


Mom: Michelle Young seemed 'void of life' before slaying

RALEIGH, N.C. — Michelle Young's mother testified Friday that her daughter had become increasingly sad and introverted in the months leading up to her beating death more than five years ago.

more at link .................http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/story/10713679/

IMO this is what her Mother saw happening and why she was there to help every time Michelle came to her. It might not have even been a conscious realization that her daughter had so drastically changed (hindsight might be playing in on her feelings and words after Michelle's murder), but deep down inside her Mother KNEW her daughter had changed and wanted to do whatever she could to help her daughter.....to get her daughter back to being herself and not what her monster husband turned her in to. jmt

 

[dgfred]

Jason called Michelle and told her exactly where he was and where he was staying.

Can you imagine if she called him during the nite, and the clerk had to go to his room, and no Jason...........:what:

Or, if the hotel fire alarm went off and all 49 rooms were accounted for, except #421?

Yeah, she knows. But if something happens to her... how do responders???

Seems to me he took several huge chances with what he did... so far, he has slipped by those 'chances'.

Still... WHY would you turn off your phone? You can turn the ringer off so it will not effect sleep and STILL get your calls. Saying that it is normal is stretching it IMO.

 

[Cammy]

Yeah, she knows. But if something happens to her... how do responders???

Seems to me he took several huge chances with what he did... so far, he has slipped by those 'chances'.

Still... WHY would you turn off your phone? You can turn the ringer off so it will not effect sleep and STILL get your calls. Saying that it is normal is stretching it IMO.

I need to wait for cell phone testimony, before determining that..
It wa unclear last time.

 

[MrsWendy]

If you go on a business trip it might be a good idea to take a charger.

He may have had a charger or he may have not had one... it doesn't matter. The point I was making is that it could be very possible that he thought the phone had enough charge to last through the night. If he was mistaken then he would not have noticed it until the morning when he discovered that the phone was turned off.

I have no idea if he intentionally turned off the phone or not. I'm just pointing out that there is, in fact, a pretty reasonable explanation for the phone being off while his pregnant wife was alone at home. I don't see the fact that the phone was turned off as absolute proof that he was trying to cover his tracks.

 

[dgfred]

Jason called Michelle and told her exactly where he was and where he was staying.

Can you imagine if she called him during the nite, and the clerk had to go to his room, and no Jason...........:what:

Or, if the hotel fire alarm went off and all 49 rooms were accounted for, except #421?

He can always say he was out SMOKING cigars... or he accidently dropped it and set the fire alarm off :innocent: .

 

[fifteen89]

... speaks to boundary issues ..

Knowing when enough is enough .. and no is no ..

imo

And when immature is immature....
And when it looks/acts/walks like a guilty duck....imo this guy's a guilty duck.

 

[otto]

No kidding, Otto. I absolutely do not see how his phone being "on" or "off" is something to be significant in this case. MOO

I don't either. Cell phones have made it more convenient for people to stay in touch regardless of whether people are in a building, but to expect everyone to constantly be "on-call" seems a little overboard. Pregnant women do not need their husbands to be on-call 24 hours a day.

If Jason routinely turned his cell phone off at the end of the day and was asleep in a hotel with a phone next to the bed, he was available in the event there was an emergency.

 

[Cammy]

He may have had a charger or he may have not had one... it doesn't matter. The point I was making is that it could be very possible that he thought the phone had enough charge to last through the night. If he was mistaken then he would not have noticed it until the morning when he discovered that the phone was turned off.

I have no idea if he intentionally turned off the phone or not. I'm just pointing out that there is, in fact, a pretty reasonable explanation for the phone being off while his pregnant wife was alone at home. I don't see the fact that the phone was turned off as absolute proof that he was trying to cover his tracks.

:goodpost:
Exactly.

 

[dgfred]

He may have had a charger or he may have not had one... it doesn't matter. The point I was making is that it could be very possible that he thought the phone had enough charge to last through the night. If he was mistaken then he would not have noticed it until the morning when he discovered that the phone was turned off.

I have no idea if he intentionally turned off the phone or not. I'm just pointing out that there is, in fact, a pretty reasonable explanation for the phone being off while his pregnant wife was alone at home. I don't see the fact that the phone was turned off as absolute proof that he was trying to cover his tracks.

There will not be 'absolute proof' with anything in a circumstancial case IMO.

 

[otto]

Therapist is of the impression that Michelle is a victim of verbal abuse by Jason, and that martial (couples) counseling is not appropriate; marital counseling is not indicated for abuse victims.

We know that they had loud, long arguments ... wouldn't that suggest mutual verbal abuse?