State vs Jason Lynn Young 2-10-12

[happy2binNC]

I thought it was determined that the dna on the rock couldn't match JY, or the odds of it matching him were slim ?

WRAL article recapping testimony from the first trial:
http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/story/9732796/

From this article:
"Further DNA testing on what has been described as a red lava rock found at a Hampton Inn in Hillsville, Va., contained a partial DNA profile that couldn't exclude Jason Young, said Shawn Weiss, a DNA analyst with LabCorp.

Tests found that the same sample could potentially belong to 1 in every 79 Caucasian males, Weiss said. That indicated to him that it was nowhere near to being a match to Jason Young's DNA."

 

[Just the Fax]

One of the biggest things I picked up this morning was JLY begged MY to abort Cassidy. For those that have a hard time believing he could kill his unborn son, an extension of himself, believe it. He apparently had no problem terminating a fetus, even one that had a name.
Rylan, RIP.

 

[Pocono Sleuther]

what a heart breaking headline.


fran


Mom: Michelle Young seemed 'void of life' before slaying

RALEIGH, N.C. — Michelle Young's mother testified Friday that her daughter had become increasingly sad and introverted in the months leading up to her beating death more than five years ago.

more at link .................http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/story/10713679/

I so know the feeling. Men like this attempt to kill you long before your heart stops beating. Michelle spiraled downward mentally from the point she met JY. She was a functioning and productive member of society but he had stolen what made Michelle so wonderful...her joy for life and her spunk. By all accounts, MY was a happy, social, fun, expressive, and confident woman before her marriage. JY systematically broke her down. <mod snip> Actually i'd like to introduce him to a large lonely prison inmate and let JY feel abused and broken on his own!

 

[Pocono Sleuther]

Disagree, didn't help them at all. That was a lengthy, abusive e-mail designed to continue the cycle of emothional abuse that Jason Young was inflicting on his wife. It shows him for who he is.

Exactly! Showed him for who he is. He can try to hide behind his dufus southern boy 'charm' (tho i dont find anything about his skinny arse charming) for only so long. The true person always, ALWAYS comes out. Typical abuser behavior.

 

[Pocono Sleuther]

One of the biggest things I picked up this morning was JLY begged MY to abort Cassidy. For those that have a hard time believing he could kill his unborn son, an extension of himself, believe it. He apparently had no problem terminating a fetus, even one that had a name.
Rylan, RIP.

JTF, was it stated in the same manner during the first trial? I recall it being said that he didnt want Cassidy but I dont remember it being said as 'he wanted michelle to abort the baby or he'd resent them both forever'. THAT drives any chance he had of salvaging his (lame) character right to he!! imo.

 

[sureLocke]

The odds are very slim, but that didn't prevent the prosecution from introducing the rock as evidence and implying that a 3 allele match meant something.

The rock is a piece of evidence whether JY dna is found on it or not. One of the hotel guests placed it there for convenience, the question is what that convenience was for. If it was Jason then it could be to commit the crime and remain unobserved, or it could have been to smoke a cigar, but the prosecution must enter as evidence because it does support their theory of what happened. What a tangled web we weave...

 

[Just the Fax]

JTF, was it stated in the same manner during the first trial? I recall it being said that he didnt want Cassidy but I dont remember it being said as 'he wanted michelle to abort the baby or he'd resent them both forever'. THAT drives any chance he had of salvaging his (lame) character right to he!! imo.

No, this was a new witness and new evidence.
I thought it was powerful.

 

[RaleighNC]

Slightly OT and sad...

A friend, a lover or a mate should make you feel "more like you" and a better you, than something "less than you". You should be stonger, happier, more alive when you are with positive people in your life.

How do we teach people to get out of these relationships and avoid tragedy? So many things that look the same in these cases where wives end up dead instead of divorced. It's almost like you can substitute the names and write the story, over and over and over again.

I think I could have been there so many years ago with jerk husband #1. The emotional tearing down is something that is so insidious - that perhaps the abused don't even see it. When can you step in and help, and help them "see it" without being seeing as meddling or 'against' their spouse?

Is the discussion about the marriage ending the stressor that finally pushes the killer over the edge? I researched a condition / personality when the BC case was going on - and I have to see if this fits - but focusing on victims - when's the time when you can step in and make a difference? Too soon and you risk alienating them, and well, too late......

A sad tale retold too many times.

 

[dgfred]

Jason seemed to like his phone. He was on the phone on anniversary from the moment he picked up michelle until dinner was served. moo Thats demeaning! imo

I agree... he was quite handy with it.

 

[dgfred]

I would leave it in the hotel room.

It seems to me that if Jason was hours away and there was an emergency, Michelle would call her sister - who was minutes away. In fact, she most likely would have called her mom first ... if I'm understanding the relationships correctly. Jason could have been contacted via hotel phone or a message could have been left on his cell phone.

Women managed just fine with their pregnancies before cell phones were invented so I don't see it as a serious issue.

My whole point was that the wife WOULD NOT be able to call, someone else would have to.

 

[dgfred]

For someone as attached to his cell phone as JY was - he certainly used it OFTEN - turning it off seems odd to me. Especially since he used it to communicate with MM and he could do that easier when he was on the road - so why turn it off.

I don't find the rationale of not turning it off so that MY could reach him in an emergency to be applicable to JY's level of caring or involvement with his wife. I would expect he turned it off when it suited him.

Would be interesting to know if we usually turned it off at home (my guess is yes - because it was a tool for his infidelity) - and with this - I don't think that we could expect the same behaviors home and on the road....

I find him to be selfish and sneaky - and thus - a cell phone was a convenience FOR HIM - to further his affair / infidelity, to call people HE wanted to call - but not necessarily so that he could be reached by others.

MOO

That is exactly how I see it too.

 

[Bottle Cap]

I wanted to make an observation about MY's "meddling" family, too. I'd already observed that JY invited his sister-in-law to meddle via mediating. But testimony has show that Michelle obviously relied heavily on her both her mom and her sister, people who loved her dearly. IMO she relied heavily on them because that pitiful excuse of a husband of hers couldn't be counted on for help or support or assistance with anything. She was the only adult in that family, and its hard to run it all on your own - much less with someone working actively against you. Dang straight she needed the help, and its to her mom's credit that she was willing to spend her time and money in such a fashion. Daughter needed her, bam, she was there. End of story.

 

[MoonFlwr]

Jason's reaction to his intrusive m-i-l was to not want her to around him. I think that's a pretty normal reaction. I think the majority of the jury will agree when weighing this testimony.

JMO

I agree!

 

[Bottle Cap]

I missed the email about Thanksgiving being read in court today. I know there were issues about MY's mom being around for the holidays. For those of you that heard the entire thing, can you tell me: were JY's issues only about the holidays? Or did he whinge about her being there to provide child care too? Was he prepared to shoulder the financial responsibility of 3 days of childcare a week, and a lesser income? Was he ready to man up to take care of his own kids instead of letting his MIL do it?

ETA: I found it on WRAL. Apparently "Jas" was complaining about his MIL's presence in the house, but not about the free child care. Lots to say about her time there, but no offer to pay for day care so her help with the kids wasn't necessary. The holiday plan wasn't as extreme as what he made out, either. Coming back to Raleigh for a game on Saturday certainly didn't mean MIL would be in the mountains for 4 days. I guess he forgot about that when he was counting days. Faulting MY for wanting to compromise. It's very interesting too, that good ole JY didn't moan about MIL paying for the Disney Trip that he was going to be treated to. Presumably he'd have to be hanging out with her there too, but maybe all sorts of things are more palatable in FL.

 

[Cammy]

I agree!

The actual email should be up at WRAL soon, if it isn't already, and everyone can read it and judge it for themselves.

I heard it as someone who was trying to make Michelle understand that

it was making things more difficult for them with her Mother's constant

interference and long visits.

I also get that LF had just retired, so she had more time, and I understand that too., and CY being her first grandchild...:heart:

But, anyone in a relationship or marriage knows that an extended house~ stay of anyone, whether a friend or family member can get old real fast.

Jason may not have wanted a child at first, but we are not going to hear from one person in this courtroom, last time or this time, that he was not a good Dad after she was born.

JMO

 

[terminatrixator]

Men do all sorts of things when their wives are pregnant that may not seem quite right to the pregnant wife or other women. That happens. If he routinely turned off his phone, took off his watch, put his wallet on the dresser before he went to bed, it's possible he followed that routine even when he was at a hotel.

Hopefully they don't all have affairs while their wife is pregnant and then plan, premeditate and kill their wives.

 

[Bottle Cap]

The actual email should be up at WRAL soon, if if isn't already, and everyone can read it and judge it for themselves.

I heard it as someone who was trying to make Michelle understand that

it was making things more difficult for them with her Mother's constant

interference and long visits.

I also get that LF had just retired, so she had more time, and I understand that too.

But, anyone in a relationship or marriage knows that an extended house stay of anyone, whether a friend or family member can get old real fast.

Jason may not have wanted a child at first, but we are not going to hear from one person in this courtroom, last time or this time, that he was not a good Dad.

JMO

That whole rant would have been easier to swallow if he'd stood on principle and not planned to go to Disney World with the MIL he so despised.

 

[Boodles]

I felt the email gave insight into their relationship dynamics. First, it was an email (not discussion). Then, it went on and on and on and on, like obsessively, like he was winding himself up over the entire thing, ad nauseum. It exemplified their conflict and Jason's frustration with Michelle. It wasn't just about Ms. Fisher; it was about Michelle. In one part, he said "...since you're always completely miserable (in Brevard) about everything (cat hair was mentioned), just stay in Raleigh." It was not a loving plea for MIL management. It was full of hostility toward Michelle, IMO. And I acknowledge why he might be frustrated by the frequency and nature of the MIL's interaction with MY and JY. But to me, the email was more an indication of the anger building up inside of JY.

 

[Bottle Cap]

I felt the email gave insight into their relationship dynamics. First, it was an email (not discussion). Then, it went on and on and on and on, like obsessively, like he was winding himself up over the entire thing, ad nauseum. It exemplified their conflict and Jason's frustration with Michelle. It wasn't just about Ms. Fisher; it was about Michelle. In one part, he said "...since you're always completely miserable (in Brevard) about everything (cat hair was mentioned), just stay in Raleigh." It was not a loving plea for MIL management. It was full of hostility toward Michelle, IMO. And I acknowledge why he might be frustrated by the frequency and nature of the MIL's interaction with MY and JY. But to me, the email was more an indication of the anger building up inside of JY.

Yup, and there's his poor wife, twisting in the wind trying to make everybody happy.

 

[fran]

Testimony brings new revelations in Young murder trial

RALEIGH, N.C. — Michelle Young sought therapy before her death in an effort to "get her life and herself straightened out," a licensed therapist testified Friday in the first-degree murder trial of her husband, Jason Young.

"She cried from the time she started talking until she left the office," Kimball Sargent said of the Oct. 27, 2006, visit. "I let her cry it out and gave her support. I felt like that's where we had to start – with her letting all this sadness out.

more at link ....................http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/story/10713679/