State vs Jason Lynn Young 2-15-2012

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  • #241
BBM. In this case, the witness was a toddler. The fact that she was unharmed strengthens the argument that she was unharmed because she could not identify her mother's attacker.

JMO

Not only that, but there is a real possibility she cleaned herself..

I had never even thought of that, until I saw the step stool
with her prints last week by the sink.

:(
 
  • #242
His testimony on this made no sense. He said he did not want his room door to slam and make a loud noise and disturb others and so he noticed it would not close unless you pulled it, so he decided to let it be open a crack. It's so easy to see he just did not want a record of his comings and goings both for room 421 and the stairwell exits and entrances he made.


He "didn't want to disturb others.." lol yeah, he's a real southern gentleman.

Oh, you don't have to slam the door to close it. One can just pull it to. I don't think the hotel gets too many guests calling them to complain "the person next to me woke me up bc he closed his door too loud." when he checked in late that night did he continue to leave the door cracked open the entire night..... Even as he "slept" as to not wake anyone? Give me a break.
 
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Thanks, Cammy. failed strangulation and hair-pulling sounds like the perp may have been a female.

JMO

The ME testified how hard she had been hit with a very, very heavy object, that's why all the skull fractures. Hardly sounds like a female did that. The hair on Michelles' hand was her own, the clump of hair underneath her was her own and the planted hair on the picture frame was found by Godwin.
Godwin was hired by the Young clan, what he does is collect items from a crime scene that he hopes will introduce reasonable doubt to a jury. How UNETHICAL is he and the Youngs for hiring him ? He "found" two cigarette butts and the hair on the picture frame AFTER the house was released by LE. He won't be testifying in this trial just like he was never called to testify in the first trial, buffoon comes to mind. Funny,. the Youngs can hire idiots like him to try and muddy up the waters, and they can come up with $900,000 in property to bail the murderer Jason out of jail but yet Jason can't afford counsel, the taxpayers of North Carolina got stuck paying his lawyer fees.
 
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The first jury sure did not agree with you and neither do I.

His daughter is on the witness list. I look forward to her testimony.

JMO

Jason did attend 2 meetings, the second is a little unclear that he may have just dropped off a business card, if the person was not in, but he went there and was seen.

And, we know he had his earlier meeting with Jennifer Sproles, as planned.

You know, I am just thinking, Jason would have had to be awake for almost
36 hours, and driven a total of 852 miles from Raleigh to ending up in Brevard.

170 miles to Hillsville
170 miles back to Raleigh
170 miles back to Hillsville
145 miles to Clintwood, his meeting
197 miles to Brevard
_________

852 miles.....!!

Then another 273 miles in his *SUV back to Raleigh that nite, when his brother in law, Joe drove.......

852
273
_______

1125 miles, that is more than a 1/3 of crossing the entire United States from east coast to west coast !!

* SUV returned to Raleigh, he never tried to switch vehicles, or leave SUV in Brevard for cleaning or destroying evidence.
 
  • #247
Oh but things have taken a turn, haven't you been watching ? Jason Young has been exposed for lying about a hospital meeting he never went to, his trail of phone calls is so incriminating it's not even funny, testimony stating his daughter answered DADDY when asked who had been at the house the day of the murder, the therapist testified and it was learned what an abuser he really was...it just goes on and on But, as you yourself posted, that's to be expected if the defendant is guilty !!!

BBM: janesdean, please clarify. He went to the meeting in Clintville, VA, albeit arriving 35 minutes late.

But I am having trouble distinguishing what I know from the prior trial vs this one. Did the woman from the hospital with whom JY had the meeting scheduled testify yet in this trial?

And does anyone know whether he called to let her know that he would be late?
 
  • #248
The first jury sure did not agree with you and neither do I.

His daughter is on the witness list. I look forward to her testimony.

JMO

The first jury was a hung jury. In the end they agreed with neither side. That's why it's being done all over again. If the jury,as a whole, agreed with you Jy wouldn't be on trial again. The first jury no longer matters. THIS jury is what matters and we'll all have to wait to hear which side they agree with.


Moo moo moo
 
  • #249
He screwed up. I'm not sure why he didn't just say he used a rock to hold to door open while smoking.

Probably because much like Casey Anthony, he lies. :fence:
 
  • #250
The first jury was a hung jury. In the end they agreed with neither side. That's why it's being done all over again. If the jury,as a whole, agreed with you Jy wouldn't be on trial again. The first jury no longer matters. THIS jury is what matters and we'll all have to wait to hear which side they agree with.


Moo moo moo

I don't agree with you. The jury adopts the presumption of innocence. The majority of the last jury could not find Jason Young guilty so they did agree with the defense. The decision to retry was made solely by the prosecution. If I was a taxpayer, I'd be outraged at the waste of resources.

JMO
 
  • #251
I'm really wondering if the prosecution wants to lose this case because that's sure where it is headed.

JMO
Everyone is entitled to "where this trial is headed" but the result is only based on what the Jury thinks and they have yet to hear the entire case to form an opinion.

I think the prosecution is doing MUCH better this time around. Statistics favor the prosecution on retrials when defendant has testified in first trial.

Jmo
 
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back on
 
  • #253
Everyone is entitled to "where this trial is headed" but the result is only based on what the Jury thinks and they have yet to hear the entire case to form an opinion.

I think the prosecution is doing MUCH better this time around. Statistics favor the prosecution on retrials when defendant has testified in first trial.

Jmo

The jury's decision will be based on evidence not statistics.

JMO
 
  • #254
Hair doesn't come out in a clump unless it is yanked with force. The testimony indicates roots attached. That's a lot of force.

Women fight with their bare hands and tactics they use include hair-pulling. I believe Michelle was also hit with a weapon. Her injuries are consistent with a female assailant.

JMO

Bureau of Justice Statistics:


Homicide offenders and victims, by sex, 1980–2008
Victim/offender relationship Percent
Total 100%
Male offender/male victim 67.8%
Male offender/female victim 21.0
Female offender/male victim 9.0
Female offender/female victim 2.2
Note: Percentages are based on the 63.1% of homicides from 1980 through 2008 for which the victim/offender relationships were known.

Women offenders kill by Gun, Arson or Poison in over 70% of the cases. No other methods were noted - i.e. no other methods occur in significant percentages.

So - of 100 female murder victims, 2.2 were killed by women, and it is likely that a majority of them were killed by the three methods above. (No statistics were ready available for same sex murders and method.)

Women do not kill by force (defined as hands, feet or fists)
 
  • #255
The jury's decision will be based on evidence not statistics.

JMO

I didn't say it would be. Please don't twist what I wrote. Thank you kindly.
 
  • #256
I don't agree with you. The jury adopts the presumption of innocence. The majority of the last jury could not find Jason Young guilty so they did agree with the defense. The decision to retry was made solely by the prosecution. If I was a taxpayer, I'd be outraged at the waste of resources.

JMO

I am a NC taxpayer and I am overjoyed and relieved that he is being prosecuted. I am, however, outraged that Jason Young's lack of cooperation with law enforcement resulted in such a vast use of resources. Jason Young is the one who is directly responsible for this waste of resources.
 
  • #257
I don't think anyone would think Michelle would pull her own hair out by the roots. Sounds like it started with hair pulling which indicates, to me, a girl fight and maybe a male stepped in to kill her off so as not to be identified. MOO

Girly fight with hair pulling?

The person murdered had long hair. Unless the person attempting to strangle her very carefully slid his hands under her hair and around her neck, he surely got at least some of her hair in his grip. When she tried to remove his hands, she got her own hair in her grip also.

Girl fight is pretty melodramatic and would be funny if this weren't such a revolting crime. Might even buy it if MY's hair wasn't long, and therefore very likely to be all around her neck and difficult to avoid in a strangulation attempt.
 
  • #258
Bureau of Justice Statistics:


Homicide offenders and victims, by sex, 1980–2008
Victim/offender relationship Percent
Total 100%
Male offender/male victim 67.8%
Male offender/female victim 21.0
Female offender/male victim 9.0
Female offender/female victim 2.2
Note: Percentages are based on the 63.1% of homicides from 1980 through 2008 for which the victim/offender relationships were known.

Women offenders kill by Gun, Arson or Poison in over 70% of the cases. No other methods were noted - i.e. no other methods occur in significant percentages.

So - of 100 female murder victims, 2.2 were killed by women, and it is likely that a majority of them were killed by the three methods above. (No statistics were ready available for same sex murders and method.)

Women do not kill by force (defined as hands, feet or fists)

Michelle was attacked with a blunt object.

My comments pertained to real evidence in this case, not other cases or <modsnip> statistics.

JMO
 
  • #259
BBM: janesdean, please clarify. He went to the meeting in Clintville, VA, albeit arriving 35 minutes late.

But I am having trouble distinguishing what I know from the prior trial vs this one. Did the woman from the hospital with whom JY had the meeting scheduled testify yet in this trial?

And does anyone know whether he called to let her know that he would be late?

Jennifer Sproles has not testified yet in this trial, Boodles.
 
  • #260
BBM: janesdean, please clarify. He went to the meeting in Clintville, VA, albeit arriving 35 minutes late.

But I am having trouble distinguishing what I know from the prior trial vs this one. Did the woman from the hospital with whom JY had the meeting scheduled testify yet in this trial?

And does anyone know whether he called to let her know that he would be late?

He arrived at that meeting 35 minutes late acting nervous (just murdered his pregnant wife) but he testified he also made a cold call to a hospital in Transylvania County, but there was testimony refuting that claim,. and he has once again been exposed for the liar that he is.
The woman he had the meeting with in Clntville testified in the first trial, and she stated he did not call her to say he would be late.
 
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