State vs Jason Lynn Young 2-15-2012

[Cammy]

ita!

very few..

(for those who watched the first trial were there more then? or was it much the same?)

The same, Jason's attorneys objected to very little.

 

[MyBelle]

On this issue we have a major fundamental disagreement. I know he invoked his legal rights. However, it is also true that he refused to cooperate in any way, not even to ask how Michelle died or whether his daughter was ok. He hung up on the police. But this we already know.... I won't repeat all of the ways he refused to cooperate. And yeah, that was his legal right.

When one invokes their legal right to silence it is all or nothing. After that point, all communication must be through his attorney. There can be no "cooperation" where some questions are directly asked or answered by Jason and not others.

JMO

 

[Cammy]

Allusionz, who posts on this case, has become very well informed about DNA through the Knox case.

Wish Allusionz was around today !


Defense is up now.

 

[octobermoon]

I actually think that her light hearted attitude strongly communicated that she did not believe for a minute that Jason was guilty ... which was the best thing she could do for him. I think a similar performance could help Jason in this retrial.

Interesting. I will try to watch it again. I have to say she really gave me an icky feeling.

 

[dgfred]

So there wasn't a void in the blood spatter where the print was?

Also, if we're going to look the evidence as a totality, wasn't Jason supposedly wearing gloves to keep from getting scratches on his hands? I suppose he may have removed his gloves to put his hand on the wall while he attacked his wife with the other hand, then put his gloves back on to make sure that no bloody prints were left anywhere. I don't know ... gloves to justify some evidence, no gloves to justify other evidence ... doesn't add up for me whether we're looking at the totality of evidence or each piece in isolation. It seems to be that all along we're heard that he was wearing gloves, balaclava, long sleeves, possibly even a Tyvek suit, and now ... bare hands that were not bruised while his wife was supposedly beaten with bare fists.

But otto, If the print does have the splatter around it... but the print has no blood on the actual print then it would coincide with the murder. If not it is not certain when the print was put on the wall... it may have been when moving in or moving furniture at some point.
Isn't there also the possibility that his dna was on the wall previously and he did have gloves on when the print was made?

If they could prove the print/blood spatter/dna all happened at the same time it would be JY 'hooped' IMO. But they can't... so we are left to speculate.

 

[fifteen89]

Or, he knew that he was in the dog house and was trying to make amends.

What????? Trying to make amends for killing his wife by NOT killing his daughter? Me more than confuzed. :waitasec::waitasec:

 

[Grammy Jean]

I actually think that her light hearted attitude strongly communicated that she did not believe for a minute that Jason was guilty ... which was the best thing she could do for him. I think a similar performance could help Jason in this retrial.

I think a "light hearted attitude" in a trial where testimony has been given about the brutal bloody beating to death about a woman who was your friend is just despicable as to your character. If that helps JY I don't see how!!!

 

[fran]

IMHO, many of these items of dna, don't indicate positively JY, but they also do NOT rule him out. It's a double-edged sword.

JMHO
fran

 

[Cammy]

Klinkosum is crossing Freeman, since Jason lived there...and so on.

You can get dna from a sneeze or a cough onto a surface.

But, you can't tell how long it had been there.

 

[dgfred]

When one invokes their legal right to silence it is all or nothing. After that point, all communication must be through his attorney. There can be no "cooperation" where some questions are directly asked or answered by Jason and not others.

JMO

There is a BIG difference in protecting your rights with silence and hanging up on police officers before you know how your wife was killed and giving zero information about your whereabouts and zero worry about your child IMO.

Protecting your rights and doing NOTHING to help find the killer are opposite ends of the spectrum IMO.

 

[fifteen89]

I think it was extra cruel twist to get her sister to find the battered body. :maddening:

He might have actually thought the child would still be asleep from the medicine she was given so wasn't worried too much about her getting hurt or roaming around the rooms... or helping mommy.

I don't think he was concerned for the little girl, wasn't worried about someone finding her or caring for her.......he just wanted Michelle's body found. jmt

 

[Cammy]

Onto the jewelrty box, partial dna.

You need 16 genetic lowside alleles_____to make a match
Freeman found only 2 on the box.

 

[otto]

Interesting. I will try to watch it again. I have to say she really gave me an icky feeling.

If you assume that she completely believes in Jason's innocence, it puts her attitude in perspective. My impression was that she treated the process as incredulous, that she couldn't believe the things the prosecution were trying to imply. She almost seemed to be laughing at the prosecution for attempting to twist everything to fit their agenda. She was also smiling at the defendant - because she believes in his innocence - and treating him as a regular person rather than a murderer.

 

[dgfred]

I don't think he was concerned for the little girl, wasn't worried about someone finding her or caring for her.......he just wanted Michelle's body found. jmt

Well, he must have been just a little for her to be cleaned up some and given medicine to go to sleep. I don't see any other way to look at that.

If he didn't care at all... one of those 30 blows would/could have killed the child too.

Whether there alive or not... it wouldn't have changed his plan in any way to have her found.

 

[fifteen89]

BBM

Not that anyone can answer this, and as horrible as it sounds, but why? He had so much rage in him, so much anger, but yet was able to switch it off for her. Note, this is really a question no matter who was the killer.

I haven't read this whole thread yet so someone may have said this, but imo his rage was directed at Michelle, not Michelle and Cassidy. Also he would know his parents would take care of Cassidy any time he wanted. In his sick mind, he didn't need to kill his daughter to be rid of her.

 

[dgfred]

Onto the jewelrty box, partial dna.

You need 16 genetic lowside *alieles______to make a match.

Freeman found only 2 on the box.



* spelling

Like the print on the wall??? :waitasec:

 

[iucpa]

Side note - I was in the courtroom for a little while yesterday. Was interesting.

 

[fran]

If you assume that she completely believes in Jason's innocence, it puts her attitude in perspective. My impression was that she treated the process as incredulous, that she couldn't believe the things the prosecution were trying to imply. She almost seemed to be laughing at the prosecution for attempting to twist everything to fit their agenda. She was also smiling at the defendant - because she believes in his innocence - and treating him as a regular person rather than a murderer.

Obviously, her supposed friendship with MY was just superficial. I wonder if she would be so amused were it MY on trial for killing JY.

I don't find her attitude to the present situation anything, other than disturbing.

JMHO
fran

 

[dgfred]

I haven't read this whole thread yet so someone may have said this, but imo his rage was directed at Michelle, not Michelle and Cassidy. Also he would know his parents would take care of Cassidy any time he wanted. In his sick mind, he didn't need to kill his daughter to be rid of her.

Plus who is gonna adore him later on if he is not found as murderer... she would most likely. Another 'fan' for him.

 

[octobermoon]

If you assume that she completely believes in Jason's innocence, it puts her attitude in perspective. My impression was that she treated the process as incredulous, that she couldn't believe the things the prosecution were trying to imply. She almost seemed to be laughing at the prosecution for attempting to twist everything to fit their agenda. She was also smiling at the defendant - because she believes in his innocence - and treating him as a regular person rather than a murderer.

Wow, I just saw her as pleased as punch to be in the "spotlight" so she could complain about how badly she had been treated by the media, LE, FBI and the internet people. I saw not one ounce of sadness over MY's murder. Very weird to me. If I have time I'll try to watch again tonight.