State vs. Jason Lynn Young 2-20-2012

[Turnadot]

I might be alone, but I felt like she was taking little swipes at MY--like about the 10 page email to her bridesmaids, her need to plan and organize, etc...Maybe I'm imagining it.

No, I thought so, too. MM is just...off.

 

[cityslick]

Michelle's issues with her past sexual experiences is no excuse to be treated the way Jason treated her, Linda's involvement is no excuse. Why is it people try to find ways to justify why a guy would choose murder over divorce.

Linda is not on trial, Jason is. Linda's involvement in the marriage does not excuse Jason's behavior, it doesn't not make Linda any less of a victim for her daughter's murder. It's not a justification for Michelle's murder.

Divorce is always the option but obviously an option Jason did not choose. Making Linda into the bad guy of the marriage is a great cop out for putting the blame on the person who committed the murder. It's a way of justifying Jason's behavior and that really blows my mind.

I don't think anyone is blaming her for anything. I do think it was a factor in the marriage itself. But she's not to blame for MY's murder.

 

[borndem]

We had to get a locking file cabinet. She would read through mail, bank statements anything she could get her hands on. Rearranged the furniture when I wasn't home. Sent me fancy lingerie for Christmas. So I would have another child with her son. That was the last straw for DH. Crossed a line. He took her to task. Sad that it had to get to that point. It was rough.

That is an awful story, o'moon. I can't imagine. And apparently your DH didn't like it, either. Yep, that woulda made me mad, mad, mad.

And sadly, we DO marry more than just our spouses in a lot of cases. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't -- and often, you don't really know until after the wedding...

 

[~n/t~]

I don't think anyone is blaming her for anything. I do think it was a factor in the marriage itself. But she's not to blame for MY's murder.

Exactly and we're discussing it because it was the topic of the email testimony today.

 

[Turnadot]

See, this is the kind of stuff you got to know going into the relationship/marriage. If you find out the potential mother in law is just always around, going to be a problem, then don't get involved. Once you get married, you bought into the package deal (yes, the in laws are a package deal).

When they say your 'marrying into the family', it's not a lie.

BBM

Agreed. I was well aware of what type of mother-in-law she would be, and I married my husband knowing his mother would constantly give "advice" and offer up opinions on our marriage, and even where we should vacation or work. I generally smile and nod, then pour another glass of wine, lol. And keep plans close to my chest, as much as possible. I admit I have said to my husband before, 'Don't tell you mother about___.'

I truly feel for Linda. To lose a child to such brutality, I can't imagine her strength.

 

[terminatrixator]

IDK, who is doing that?

Not I. But the fact is, both mothers were too involved in that marriage. LF is indeed a victim, but she was still too involved in her daughter's marriage. It seems even Michelle thought so, but she was probably torn, because her mother was her source of comfort while her useless husband was boinking and generally being a .

People finding ways to justify how a person that seemingly may be "normal" would commit murder is not new. It's a way to wrap your head around how a person could come to that point. The issue is there is no wrapping your mind around cold-blooded, premeditated murder.

I've been following this case since day one and there's been a lot of poor Jason because of Linda and I guess I am a bit sensitive and frustrated by it now.

I think in general I'm frustrated by this type of crime and sensitive to how much re-victimization there is of the murder victim and their family.

 

[~n/t~]

I haven't seen anyone post Poor Jason.

 

[borndem]

MF already testified there was something large, I believe, that was missing from one of the tables. But she couldn't recall what it was.

Does anyone else remember this?
fran

Oh yes, I remember, fran.

A single brass candlestick, or wooden figurine, or metal lamp, pewter beer stein, small wrought-iron sculpture, any number of decorative but solid and non-breakable house-decorating items. One could have been in the bedroom as well.

ETA: Any of these items could have been used as a weapon -- and also could have been a decorative item which MF could not recall.

ETA: IIRC, we never heard what the actual item was.

 

[thumbtack]

i wish JY supporters would post here. i'd like to hear their views on the latest testimony. it seems to me that they've been pretty silent lately.

 

[gorealtors]

I haven't seen anyone post Poor Jason.

Wonder if Ma Pat thinks Jason is just her little imp today??

 

[Turnadot]

People finding ways to justify how a person that seemingly may be "normal" would commit murder is not new. It's a way to wrap your head around how a person could come to that point. The issue is there is no wrapping your mind around cold-blooded, premeditated murder.

I've been following this case since day one and there's been a lot of poor Jason because of Linda and I guess I am a bit sensitive and frustrated by it now.

I think in general I'm frustrated by this type of crime and sensitive to how much re-victimization there is of the murder victim and their family.

BBM

I understand.

I don't think "poor Jason" at all, I was just taken aback at the level of Linda's involvement, and Jason's mother, too. It's not a justification in the least, there's no justification for beating a pregnant woman to death. None. My comments wrt the mothers involvement was not an attempt to victimize Linda and I would never, ever suggest any of this is her fault. she bears no responsibility for what that animal did to Michelle.

My comments were about the factors of the marriage itself, not the murder.

I apologize for upsetting anyone.

 

[johnfear]

Anything new over here? I am in TC-land over in Durham.

Is this all basically the re-hash of the emails, web searches, etc?

 

[gracielee]

Well I think thats's the point. LF's involvement is not justification for murder, but it's also not motive for murder.


IMO

I'd suggest 'it could be' when jason stated 'being divorced from michelle would be worse then being married to her.' He's the one who put out there that 'divorce' wasn't an option in his mind.

 

[gracielee]

Exactly and we're discussing it because it was the topic of the email testimony today.

Perhaps Michelle was too polite to express "I really don't appreciate you telling your mother 'you're not getting enough sex from me.'

 

[Turnadot]

I'd suggest 'it could be' when jason stated 'being divorced from michelle would be worse then being married to her.' He's the one who put out there that 'divorce' wasn't an option in his mind.

I think it's more likely the motive was because Michelle had had enough and was leaving. Abusers don't like it when their target stands up to them. I once read that the most dangerous time for a woman in an abusive relationship is when she decides to leave. Also, I think the reason being divorced from her would be worse than being married to her, was because he would lose control of her.

IMO

 

[gracielee]

I haven't seen anyone post Poor Jason.

Why would they? He was *bedding* everything and anything he could.

 

[borndem]

Yep im sure! My daughter was in a situation and i got involved right off. Linda seemed to have pegged jason from day one. moo

I agree, luckyme. Her testimony when she said she told Jason, "If you don't love her, don't marry her. She'll be just fine," -- remember that? Yep, she read him like a book. Maybe that was how it was with her ex, too.

 

[heidisams]

I haven't seen anyone post Poor Jason.

No one except for Jason....

 

[luckyme]

Perhaps Michelle was too polite to express "I really don't appreciate you telling your mother 'you're not getting enough sex from me.'

Or the day care workers, and close friends. moo

 

[~n/t~]

Why would they? He was *bedding* everything and anything he could.

Gracie, with all due respect, I suggest you read the posts before replying. I was responding to the post right above mine.

Thanks