State vs. Jason Lynn Young 2-22-2012

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  • #281
Spivey seems confident that he has Jason in a "gotcha" moment because the type of gift that Jason viewed on ebay, for which he sought opinions from Michelle's friend, was the exact gift that he intended to purchase. Have we heard that? I understood, even from the friend that testified, that opinions were still be sought regarding the type of gift he would purchase.

What friend??? Don't you mean MF, MY's sister???
 
  • #282
OH, they're showing he LIED when he said he was talking to an ex fellow employee during the anniversary dinner. He made a FLURRY of calls and texts.

:mad:
JMHO
fran

What's the significance in relation to the murder? I'm not able to watch, so I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.
 
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OH, they're showing he LIED when he said he was talking to an ex fellow employee during the anniversary dinner. He made a FLURRY of calls and texts.

:mad:
JMHO
fran

ETA, LOTS of MM! :eek:

What a lovely, romantic, attentive anniversary dinner michelle had. :(
 
  • #285
What's the significance in relation to the murder? I'm not able to watch, so I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.

JY was on the phone all the way to the anniversary dinner and much of the anniversary dinner. He said he was talking to a former or ex employer.

This shows how he lied on the stand. Flat out lie.

JMHO
fran
 
  • #286
OH, they're showing he LIED when he said he was talking to an ex fellow employee during the anniversary dinner. He made a FLURRY of calls and texts.

:mad:
JMHO
fran

ETA, LOTS of MM! :eek:

What a guy!
 
  • #287
I hope they have more than this.
 
  • #288
Yeah! Right! He was working on his marriage? :liar:

just sayin'
fran

Didnt he tell michelle he was on phone for business while along he was talking to money??
 
  • #289
JY was on the phone all the way to the anniversary dinner and much of the anniversary dinner. He said he was talking to a former or ex employer.

This shows how he lied on the stand. Flat out lie.

JMHO
fran

Yep, with that much back and forth with MM, no way could he have forgotten.
 
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*mock juror*

He lied on the stand about phone calls. He's an unfaithful, lying 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 who continued to lie about his affairs, even on the stand.

And? I expected nothing less.

I hope the PT expose more than this.

IMO
 
  • #292
He was frantically working with michelle money 'on his marriage'?? She was giving him *pointers*?
 
  • #293
What's the significance in relation to the murder? I'm not able to watch, so I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.

Yeah, I get it, too, about his lying...but don't see a murder connection.
 
  • #294
JY was on the phone all the way to the anniversary dinner and much of the anniversary dinner. He said he was talking to a former or ex employer.

This shows how he lied on the stand. Flat out lie.

JMHO
fran

It's so hard to believe when he's told reasonable stories like propping his hotel room door open to avoid bugging other people by closing it and leaving it that way so he can smoke downstairs. :floorlaugh:

I'm in shock right now. :what: JY lie to the jury? :what: I mean, yeah he was willing to lie to everyone else in his life to satisfy whatever whim of the moment had seized his impulses, but the jury? It's like he's trying to keep the truth from coming out! :waitasec:
 
  • #295
I don't know now, the exact wording, but one time I looked the situation up.

IF one side of the def or pros can show that a witness lied on the stand, then the jury is instructed that they can then THROW OUT all of the testimony of that witness, forgetaboutit, or whatever, because he's been proven a liar so anything he says to point towards his innocents, cannot be relied on as being truthful statements.

In other words, once a liar, always a liar, imho.

I'm innocent I tell ya'! Innocent, NOT!

JMHO
fran
 
  • #296
They are still doing this in a manner that gives me NO sense of security. Can the jury follow? Neither HC or Sp. appear to have a command of this part of the testimony. Gosh, they just drive me crazy. I am still a type A personality, thought I would have outgrown it by now. Impatient, I want to get to the good stuff.... and the prosecution better bring it this time.
 
  • #297
I hope they have more than this.

I agree. He may be the worst husband in the world, but if he wasn't in the house when his wife was killed, I'm not sure how much it will help.

Also, if being married with a child really didn't hamper JY from doing exactly as he pleased, then what's the point of getting rid of your wife? It's a big risk when you already do anything you want anyway. Yes, the insurance money is speculated at, but that isn't really proven either. Was it? I know they don't have to prove motive, but they seem to be trying to.
 
  • #298
Michelles mom testified that michelle was upset about that. He was on business call from the time he picked her up and until the time dinner arrived at table. Right?
 
  • #299
I don't know now, the exact wording, but one time I looked the situation up.

IF one side of the def or pros can show that a witness lied on the stand, then the jury is instructed that they can then THROW OUT all of the testimony of that witness, forgetaboutit, or whatever, because he's been proven a liar so anything he says to point towards his innocents, cannot be relied on as being truthful statements.

In other words, once a liar, always a liar, imho.

I'm innocent I tell ya'! Innocent, NOT!

JMHO
fran

It goes to weighing the credibility of the witness. If the jurors find that he is not credible as a witness, they don't have to believe anything he's said. They can rely on it if they choose, but they do not have to.
 
  • #300
Yeah, I get it, too, about his lying...but don't see a murder connection.

I'm not watching it but I suppose the idea is to demonstrate he is fulling willing to lie to the jury and is doing so. Why would he do that? How can you give any credence to his stories on the hotel, clothes, and charity shoes?

:twocents:
 
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