State vs. Jason Lynn Young 2-22-2012

[otto]

What would happen if someone on the jury burst out laughing?

 

[Turnadot]

Freezing temps and gusty winds--perfect cigar smoking ambiance...

Not perfect, but I can see someone actually doing it.

That said, I think the deeper issue is that he can remember the cigar so vividly, but a conversation with his wife has already slipped his mind.

IMO

 

[Just the Fax]

He lied about being at breakfast...could not avoid the camera in the west hall.

 

[Pocono Sleuther]

I know, and you can just see Spivey wanting to ask the questions to himself!

Can you IMAGINE how the northerners feel watching this trial? At least those of us here are somewhat accustomed to this...

Between my divorce, this trial, and life in general, I have very little patience as it is...Howard is pushing his luck right now! Lol. Poor Spivey. He just wants to make the points and move on. Too many pauses and too much pointless verbage loses the jury. You need to focus it in for them with a few questions and then go on to the next point.

 

[otto]

20 MPH wind at 30 degrees.....was smoking a cigar believable?

One does wonder how anyone that fought in WW1 or WW2 managed to be a smoker at the end of the war ... I find this line of reasoning absolutely bizarre and speculative.

 

[seattlechiquita]

What would happen if someone on the jury burst out laughing?

omg that would help ME wake up! :woohoo:

 

[Turnadot]

20 MPH wind at 30 degrees.....was smoking a cigar believable?

Yes, to me, because my husband and brother-in-law have done this in such conditions near the balcony alcove after family dinners.

 

[Grammy Jean]

Ok I found it interesting just now to listen to Q & A about HI breakfast. When asked where did you have breakfast. JY answers they have a continental breakfast in the lobby. In a way he did not really say he ate there. Just something that stuck out just now.

 

[dmaxphil]

I've lit cigars and cigarettes in worse. Jumping from subject to subject and making no points is what is most frustrating right now.

 

[Pocono Sleuther]

20 MPH wind at 30 degrees.....was smoking a cigar believable?

I've seen men try to smoke a cigar in worse conditions. Just hard to believe a man alone in a warm hotel room chooses to head outside to smoke a cigar. It's not as if he was a regular smoker. Kwim.

 

[Cammy]

Wind gusts??? What the point ... that people can't light a cigar in a sheltered doorway in the wind?

d....e......s.......p.......e..........r........a.......t.........e

comes to mind.

This is just nitpicking.......we could do this to anyone who testified and find little things like this.

 

[dgfred]

The only problems I have at this point with the State's case:

The trip back and forth... and the gas purchases. It is confusing. I would have been terrified of getting in an accident, vehicle breakdown, being seen, etc. Lucky???

The camera manipulations. How did he do it without getting on video at any point? How did he pick out gas stations with no/non-working cameras? Lucky @%$&*%# IMO.

Can't really think of anything else that worries me... besides the jurors.

 

[Madeleine74]

I'm a yankee and even though I haven't lived there for a very long time... HC's pace drives me freakin' crazeeeee. During the Cooper trial I had to skip him sometimes, it was that irritating.

 

[otto]

He lied about being at breakfast...could not avoid the camera in the west hall.

Let's see the breakfast camera footage ... it's pretty much obvious to me that anything further than 10 feet from the camera is somewhat out of focus ... "no detail and depth" ... exactly.

 

[cityslick]

I would hope he brought up the weather based on lack of outerwear packed and not the cigar, but IMO that's a weak argument.

 

[fredwomble]

20 MPH wind at 30 degrees.....was smoking a cigar believable?

Maybe not, but way too much time on what is really not going to impeach Jason's testimony. He himself testified it was windy. "I turned my back to the wind, lit my cigar inside the doorway and puffed...it wasn't windy the whole time and when I lit my stogie, it wasn't too bad....Cold? Well, I'm from the mountains so 30 degrees isn't that bad to me." Unbelievable? Maybe. Easy enough to dismiss as really relevant? Yes.

Edit to add...the quote I offered obviously is not prior testimony. It is what he could say and sell and people might buy it.

 

[Turnadot]

I've seen men try to smoke a cigar in worse conditions. Just hard to believe a man alone in a warm hotel room chooses to head outside to smoke a cigar. It's not as if he was a regular smoker. Kwim.

Even though it's believable to me that a person would, I doubt the cigar story from JY.

 

[Just the Fax]

Yes, to me, because my husband and brother-in-law have done this in such conditions near the balcony alcove after family dinners.

The point is Jay did not smoke cigars.

 

[otto]

d....e......s.......p.......e..........r........a.......t.........e

comes to mind.

This is just nitpicking.......we could do this to anyone who testified and find little things like this.

This isn't any better than the cross of Jason.

 

[Boodles]

Suit jacket was the only outerwear found in his suitcase or SUV.....write it down jury

What's your point? Is there a piece of outerwear missing? Sorry I can't go this slow and retain...

And...so what's their point about breakfast??