State vs. Jason Lynn Young 2-22-2012

[twirlygurl]

Just how do we explain the unidentified fingerprints....on the ebay printouts and the medicine cup?

 

[fran]

hmmmm........ wonder how many pairs of levis JY had?

I know I have a closet full of them. I could throw one or two or a dozen pairs away and still have enough.

JMHO
fran

 

[pjcitizen]

I want to say that yes! I am being a Debbie Downer! Not because I need an AHA! moment , but because after CA, I am worried that jurors do.

 

[Madeleine74]

Amen on not knowing what a jury will do. They are quite unpredictable.

I thought there would be a hung jury in the BC case. I did not expect a conviction at all.

I expected a conviction of some kind in the CA case. Heck they didn't even charge her for littering!

And let's not even discuss the OJ case. That outcome was just painful.

 

[PoppyMcTwist]

It seems this cross could actually be the defense case-in-chief.

IMO

 

[luckyme]

Just how do we explain the unidentified fingerprints....on the ebay printouts and the medicine cup?

We cant!!! the state was out lawyered! shameful!!!! moo!!! :innocent:

 

[Cammy]

Klinkosum is pointing out they found nothing in the SUV, and the luggage , nothing tested positive for blood.

Talking about unidentified prints found in home.

Pros is objecting again.

Defense rests.

Here comes Cummings, he looks awful.

imo

 

[CarolinaMoon]

Were the prints unidentified or unidentifiable (not enough info)?

Can we hope for a sparkiling closing from the PT?

 

[NCEast]

I am wondering how this judge will feel after presiding over the civil case in which JY was found guilty if this jury comes back with a not guilty or is hung again?

 

[Turnadot]

Wow! There are a bunch of Debbie Downers in here! I am going to, for the moment, have faith, and give the jury who is hearing this case for the first time the benefit of the doubt that they will weigh all the EVIDENCE that is being presented. Not the umms, not the dragging out the questions, the evidence. Television has really skewed the way people see the world. People are waiting for the AHA moment because that's what happens in "Law and Order," everything so cut, dry and dramatic!! Even on these stupid medical drama shows, people get false hope because they see some pretend surgeons successfully resect a brain tumor that is fatal 99.9% of the time. But people think that's how it works in real life. It doesn't. At the end of the day these jurors will weigh the evidence. And they will have to decide whether to discount the myriad of LIES this defendant has told, the coincidences that either prove he is a murderer or that he is the unluckiest man in the history of men, and decide his fate because that is our system of law. I am hoping they are diligent about their task and have no choice but to assume they are. Much will depend on the foreperson they elect because the last dude was a staunch NG, and he argued people to vote his way (wasn't it initially 6-6 then they deliberated more and it ended at 8-4?); also the Anthony foreman (I use the word man very loosely there), was a staunch NG that was able to persuade the others.

With respect, this isn't true for me. Not in the least.

They're just not effective, IMO; it has nothing to do with drama, an AHA moment, etc. They're just plain terrible at presenting.

The jury is a wild card, and could convict, absolutely, but I don't see that happening. The lies may not be enough, the jury may not even care about them! Much like the jury did not in the Anthony case wrt whether or not she murdered her baby.

All JMHO, of course.

 

[ohiogirl]

I am wondering how this judge will feel after presiding over the civil case in which JY was found guilty if this jury comes back with a not guilty or is hung again?

I don't think he had any choice as JY did not respond, appear, or testify.:seeya:

 

[dmaxphil]

Quick question for you LE experts.. If JY is found guilty and sent to prison, what happens if the owner of the unidentified prints is arrested and fingerprinted. Are these (unidentified) prints in some type of electronic database and match automatically? <- I'm picturing CSI Miami stuff here.

 

[Cammy]

Break in the courtroom..

 

[otto]

Do we know for sure Spivey is the last state's witness?

I am curious about the last search warrant that was issued last Nov.....looking into their financial issues.

What happened to that?

There has to be more.

I think that was only to prove that Jason had access to retirement funds and lines of credit to pay a lawyer for custody dispute.

 

[ohiogirl]

Ay, yi, yi! Gotta go. Carry on regardless!

 

[ncsu95]

I truly appreciate your encouragement and wisdom.
I think those of us who watched the first trial were hoping for a better presentation by the prosecution and we didn't get it. Actually, it was worse than the first trial.
I am feeling so very sorry for M and L F right now, as I just can't imagine how they are feeling and what they are thinking. I hope their hope is still alive.

I don't agree that it was worse. Up until Spivey, I thought the prosecution was doing a much better job.

 

[Mama-cita]

I truly appreciate your encouragement and wisdom.
I think those of us who watched the first trial were hoping for a better presentation by the prosecution and we didn't get it. Actually, it was worse than the first trial.
I am feeling so very sorry for M and L F right now, as I just can't imagine how they are feeling and what they are thinking. I hope their hope is still alive.

I understand NCEast, I also know you are a local and it makes it that much more real for you. I know many of the people that are disappointed and "defeated" at this point are local and you are right to be critical as this your own legal system; these are your elected officials! It's personal, this case, for many people here. Myself included even though I am not local. I have followed this case since the first day here on WS. I came back to this thread, month after month, hoping and praying there would be an arrest; so many months went by and I swear there were COBWEBS in Michelle's thread! But then he was arrested. I followed the trial (as much as I could because I was so consumed with Caylee's) and although I was disappointed in the hung jury I was hopeful that the second go around would be better. We are not looking at this case with fresh eyes. We are looking at this case with eyes that want to see a wife/baby killer get his booty nailed to the wall. We have POURED over evidence, debated about fax versus printout, blown up pictures of tiny bloody footprints. This jury is seeing this all for the first time. In the Caylee case, we saw nothing new because we had been reading all the documents all along! Everyone just take a deep breath, Michelle and her baby are looking down on this one, and I believe their voices will be heard this time.

 

[mck16]

I am wondering how this judge will feel after presiding over the civil case in which JY was found guilty if this jury comes back with a not guilty or is hung again?

I really only know about this case by what I have seen here and watching the remote session so this question will be redundant to most of you. Has there been a civil trial and he was found guilty? If so, what was presented that was different? Also was the Explorer a rental or a family car? tia

 

[fifteen89]

There is no reason for him to take the stand now.

The Jurors saw him , the Pros blew it.

Easy to say they 'blew it' after the fact. If they hadn't played the tape and Jason didn't testify this time....... then what? They'd have been screwed.

 

[Cammy]

This is strange to me, important witnesses from the first trial did not take the stand, the courtroom is practically empty.

And, this time In Sessions is there broadcasting LIVE too.

Weird.