State vs. Jason Lynn Young 2-23-2012

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  • #21
I haven't been able to watch much at all this week, so I'm not up-to-date on anything new that has come up.

From what I gather this morning everyone seems to think there will be a guilty verdict this time.

Is there anything about the retrial that you all think would have swayed the 8 jurors in the last trial? What's different this time?


This time, the PT showed the 2 dark sweaters side by side in a picture which clearly showed that they were 2 different sweaters. This was not done last time. In this trial, MY's NY friend testified that JY wanted MY to abort CY when she discovered she was pregnant. Also, MY's coworker testified this time that MY did not get the reaction from JY when he found out she was pregnant with RY, that she thought she would. Yesterday's testimony from the HR person @ Progress Energy revealed the process of submitting a life ins claim. JY did file such claim and he was repeatedly denied the proceeds since he was suspect in MY's death. The HR person also testified that in 2008 those proceeds were awarded to LF.
 
  • #22
Otto,
So glad to see you on this side of the fence:)
 
  • #23
I believe any reasonable person can conclude that JY is guilty as charged. There are two primary geographical points in this case; the hotel and the residence on birchleaf. At each point activity is consistent with the defendant doing what he needs to do to achieve his objective.
Motive: He told us in emails that it was on his mind (a life without Michelle), there would be financial advantages

I believe that the prosecution would be well served using a map with defined time frames and paths taken by JY to accomplish his task. I think the jury needs to see in concise terms how the prosecution think it happened, on a board situated so the jury can see the defendant seated at the defense table, in the background.
If a person other than someone who loved CY had been there, I feel she would have been found locked in the bathroom or worse.


I particularly like this from your first sentence," Any reasonable person can conclude." I think in closing arguments the PT should use those words to preface every single point of evidence they will mention. The DT always tries to throw reasonable doubt explanations into their closing. So the use by PT of "Any reasonable person can conclude" I believe could be very effective by PT.
 
  • #24
You're right, the PT totally needs a map and a timeline, something visual and concise and comprehensive to tie this all together. Crikey, a pie chart, a Venn diagram, bar chart, something...anything!

They have enough for a conviction, IMO, but it's all out there like letters in some alphabet soup that's been vigorously stirred. They need to get the letters arranged.

Agree. And NOT a spaghetti chart! I wonder if they have any idea how unclear their case has been.

I can picture a matrix. I wish I could go down there and help them put it together.
 
  • #25
Jason can't be that cocky. That's foolishness that could lead to losses in gambling and life in jail. I think he will be convicted.

If he knew that, would he make a run for it ... to Argentina maybe .. and his family would sacrifice? Land bonds means ... potentially out on the street. Would Jason do that to his family knowing that the trade off was his life in jail ... if you can settle it with money, you got off easy?

Authorities probably watching him pretty well... maybe.
 
  • #26
Hung is, in some ways, better than an acquittal.

Only in that it leaves the door open later in the event *new evidence* appears. I feel confident the state won't try again with the same case if this jury hangs. It's too expensive.
 
  • #27
Jason killed his wife, so skipping out on some family members' bonds isn't going to affect him much I'd gather. But like others have said, he is pretty arrogant and cocky, so maybe he thinks he'll get off and has no reason to leave. Where would he go? He has no passport so he can't get far - except maybe Mexico.

I believe he is guilty like most everyone else, but am not confident with this trial. We sit and dissect all of the little pieces; the jury has not (or will not perhaps). When they stopped with Spivey yesterday I wanted to throw my computer - a similar reaction I had last year with BH and JY. Of course all of JY's lies would have taken the court into overtime, but they could have been a lot more effective with Spivey's rehashing of the testimony and facts.

I think his mom would help him abscond. She's that enabling.
 
  • #28
I'm wondering if the defense will rest without presenting a case. They have JY's testimony already in evidence, no need for him to testify again. They can argue burnden of proof has not been met.

That being said, I understand that if the defense rests without presenting a case, they go last in closing arguments in NC. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

IMHO, that's the best chance JY has at this point.

I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I came here before reading all the posts from last night.
 
  • #29
Only in that it leaves the door open later in the event *new evidence* appears. I feel confident the state won't try again with the same case if this jury hangs. It's too expensive.

Even if they don't do it again, the stigma that comes with it can be punishment enough. Even acquittals can lead a person who is guilty to insanity slowly.
 
  • #30
Interesting question and wondering if this has crossed his and Mrs. Y's mind. Think JY is arrogant enough to think he will walk. :twocents:

Sure he thinks he'll walk. After all, he's just that imp, that prince of transylvania county, who moons his granny. :( Ole jase, the life of the party.
 
  • #31
Sure he thinks he'll walk. After all, he's just that imp, that prince of transylvania county, who moons his granny. :( Ole jase, the life of the party.

LOL!!!:floorlaugh:
 
  • #32
I've been catching this trial here and there when I can on TV. I don't know the specifics, but I just wanted to say I find Jason's voice extremely creepy. ;)
 
  • #33
If a conviction is not accomplished it will be because the PT was disjointed and didn't present the evidence in a compelling enough way. The state has all it needs to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. All the elements are there. They brought far more out this time than last time. In addition, they had the benefit of JY's lies to refute point by point. They debunked the look alike pullover, they spent more time on the HP shoes. CY being a witness to the murder itself is now known.

It's all there and waiting to be put together logically and clearly and tied up in a nice red bow.
 
  • #34
Sure he thinks he'll walk. After all, he's just that imp, that prince of transylvania county, who moons his granny. :( Ole jase, the life of the party.

I have been wondering if PY takes the stand again this trial (if defense puts on a case) will she tell that adorable imp story of JY mooning his grand mom.
 
  • #35
This time, the PT showed the 2 dark sweaters side by side in a picture which clearly showed that they were 2 different sweaters. This was not done last time. In this trial, MY's NY friend testified that JY wanted MY to abort CY when she discovered she was pregnant. Also, MY's coworker testified this time that MY did not get the reaction from JY when he found out she was pregnant with RY, that she thought she would. Yesterday's testimony from the HR person @ Progress Energy revealed the process of submitting a life ins claim. JY did file such claim and he was repeatedly denied the proceeds since he was suspect in MY's death. The HR person also testified that in 2008 those proceeds were awarded to LF.

I don't think any of that is enough to sway anyone from NG to G.
 
  • #36
I have been wondering if PY takes the stand again this trial (if defense puts on a case) will she tell that adorable imp story of JY mooning his grand mom.

I've forgotten, did PY refer to grannie as his MeeMaw? Seems like many native Southerners don't have grannie's, they have MeeMaw's. Well this meemaw, like she don't do whining, she also 'doesn't do' mooning past the toddler stage. :seeya:
 
  • #37
One day closer to Justice for Michelle and Rylan
 
  • #38
I keep going back to the other girl he was boffing at the same time he and michelle were *dating*. IIRC, lived in the same townhouse complex? I knew the family years ago, knew the parents & children. This could just as easily been their daughter. Another traditionally southern family, steeped in southern roots and traditions. How close they came to sitting at the other table here.
 
  • #39
After reading last nights posts and this morning, I was left wondering how many more blows would there have been if CY had not interrupted her mom's "spanking?" I am convinced there would have been more than 30!
 
  • #40
Also been thinking about how lucky we were, back when our daughters were dating. That we 'got rid of' each of 'their' jerks they dated.
 
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