State vs Jason Lynn Young 2-8-12

[Cammy]

Good grief, I hope you can find your source about Elmer's lying. I sure didn't come away with that take. I can't even imagine what he would lie about. Keep looking!

I think they mean Hicks.

 

[sureLocke]

So you are thinking it was a rage-killing by a stranger just there to steal something? Leaving the child unharmed? Not stealing anything?

Alot of odd circumstances IMO.

I agree dgfred, alot of odd happenings which would allow the accused to be the guilty one. The odd happenings at the hotel, the circumstances at the house, from the shoe prints to the stolen property to the veracity of the killing. At the risk of being insensitive; an overkill that would only appear to me to be the work of the spouse. The stop for gas the lateness for his meeting the next day, which is why he went in the first place. To me it adds up to guilty, at this point.

 

[Cammy]

Elmer testified that he touched that pipe to balance himself.

Thank you, Grammy Jean.

So, that was Elmer's handprint on the pipe?

I am going to try and listen to him later, when things settle down around here.

We just got snow!!

 

[dgfred]

Plus smoking... even tho he hated it :waitasec:

 

[NCEast]

I think they mean Hicks.

That makes more sense. I truly think he was asleep during a lot of what supposedly happened and he has winged it both times on the witness stand.

 

[Cammy]

Have to say today went well for the Pros.........

 

[otto]

So you are thinking it was a rage-killing by a stranger just there to steal something? Leaving the child unharmed? Not stealing anything?

Alot of odd circumstances IMO.

To compare one murder to another ... we followed the Meredith Kercher murder and today (according to court verdicts) that appears to have been a random rage killing where very little was stolen - certainly no laptops or other electronics, only small items that could be put in a pocket. One or two people entered the residence, savagely beat, stabbed and strangled an innocent woman, took some small items and left. This isn't that different. If Meredith Kercher had been married, what would people think?

 

[Cammy]

Plus smoking... even tho he hated it :waitasec:

Jason hated smoke in the car*, and probably his house or near Cassidy.

Stepping outside a hotel to have a cigar is not the same thing.

*according to testimony

 

[otto]

Good grief, I hope you can find your source about Elmer's lying. I sure didn't come away with that take. I can't even imagine what he would lie about. Keep looking!

Maybe there's some confusion with the comment I posted about the night audit clerk changing his testimony.

 

[otto]

Plus smoking... even tho he hated it :waitasec:

He was smoking a cigar and he had stipulated in the custody arrangements that Meredith and her friends were not to smoke around his daughter or at home. I think a lot of non-smokers smoke a cigar from time to time, even though they are vocal about cigarette smoke and smoking around children.

 

[dgfred]

I don't see him as a buffoon... but not exactly smart either.

I will consider him one lucky-something-or-other if he isn't found guilty.

I can't get over the gas station video not working... HOW LUCKY IS THAT?
I mean, not inside OR outside they were not working... what a dangerous place to work late at night. A clerc could get killed, with no witnesses would that person ever be caught?

His activities (both on video and NOT on video) at the hotel, his calls that day to mom and girlfriend, his missing clothing, the fax-getting call for her to be found, the footprint, his missing shoes, etc... it goes on and on IMO.

 

[Pocono Sleuther]

I think Gracie believes that she saw Jason that night, but since we can't always trust our memories and our eyes deceive us sometimes(especially when they are primed with a photo of someone) I think it's likely that she interacted with a rude customer that was not Jason Young.

I don't think there is any kind of conspiracy, just that a lot of people really want to close this case. Unfortunately I think it is unsolved and will probably remain so for awhile.

I can see why people think that Jason probably did this even if it can't be proven, but I'm actually becoming more convinced that he did not have anything to do with it. He comes off as a buffoon for sure, but a murderer? I don't see it.

Seriously? You truly mean to say that someone else beat a woman who was four months pregnant ASLEEP in her OWN bed to death AND cleaned up and drugged her toddler daughter ON the same night that her husband was away on a business trip staying at a hotel 3 hours away...a hotel where the video camera was strangely moved during the timeframe of the murder AND a door was oddly propped open with a rock to easily allow re-entry...AND a gas station attendant had a rude run in with a man matching JY's description as well as matching a description of his vehicle???? ON a road he accessed en route to/from his residence...AGAIN during the timeframe of his wife's murder??? You honestly feel that these are nothing more than coincidences in Mr Young's life? Mr Young, who by all accounts, is a massive horn dog who had been repeatedly unfaithful to his wife and was known to have a 'volatile' (acc to S Shaad) relationship with said wife. I am sorry but I do not allow for such ridiculous 'coincidences' in such a case.

 

[Cammy]

is the newspaperman from the gas station also a witness? was he a witness in the last trial?

The newspaper man has now suddenly become the only witness.

 

[otto]

I don't see him as a buffoon... but not exactly smart either.

I will consider him one lucky-something-or-other if he isn't found guilty.

I can't get over the gas station video not working... HOW LUCKY IS THAT?
I mean, not inside OR outside they were not working... what a dangerous place to work late at night. A clerc could get killed, with no witnesses would that person ever be caught?

His activities (both on video and NOT on video) at the hotel, his calls that day to mom and girlfriend, his missing clothing, the fax-getting call for her to be found, the footprint, his missing shoes, etc... it goes on and on IMO.

Either this is the luckiest guy in NC, or he may not have been at all the places that the prosecution alleges he visited.

 

[dgfred]

He was smoking a cigar and he had stipulated in the custody arrangements that Meredith and her friends were not to smoke around his daughter or at home. I think a lot of non-smokers smoke a cigar from time to time, even though they are vocal about cigarette smoke and smoking around children.

Most every non-smoker I know (and I also smoke BTW) don't like cigars from time to time either. Smoke is smoke to them. I bet he did stipulate that... after the fact.

Why didn't he keep her to make sure it didn't happen around her?

 

[dgfred]

To compare one murder to another ... we followed the Meredith Kercher murder and today (according to court verdicts) that appears to have been a random rage killing where very little was stolen - certainly no laptops or other electronics, only small items that could be put in a pocket. One or two people entered the residence, savagely beat, stabbed and strangled an innocent woman, took some small items and left. This isn't that different. If Meredith Kercher had been married, what would people think?

I don't agree with the appeal verdict and there is still the Supreme Court that has to deny or agree with the appeal decision.

A stab(s) is not a rage-killing IMO. Beating someone's teeth out, among other terrible injuries is IMO.

 

[Madeleine74]

The Kercher murder was not 'random.' The killer went there for a purpose. Theft and then sexual assault. He accomplished both with a side order of a heinous murder.

 

[Landonsmom02]

What a good day for the Pros. I'm glad they finally got in the daddy part from the 911 call.

 

[Bottle Cap]

Maybe there's some confusion with the comment I posted about the night audit clerk changing his testimony.

That's it, thanks. No wonder I couldn't find it, right?

 

[otto]

I don't agree with the appeal verdict and there is still the Supreme Court that has to deny or agree with the appeal decision.

A stab(s) is not a rage-killing IMO. Beating someone's teeth out, among other terrible injuries is IMO.

I believe that Kercher had upwards of 40 injuries including bruising, strangulation and stab wounds. There was no rape. In this case, Young had upwards of 30 injuries, including bruising and strangulation, no sexual assualt examination.

Two women, small items stolen, one single, one married. In the case of the single woman, it appears to have been an acquaintance that had met her once or twice. In the case of the married woman, many focus solely on the husband.