State vs Jason Lynn Young 6-10-11

[WolfpackWoman]

He tracked quite well with the ladies, as I recall. Women on WS liked his voice, his suit, his tie and his general demeanor. I was in court the day he testified in the BC case. I found it tediously dull testimony at the time, and confusing because there were multiple phone numbers/cell phones in tiny print on a report.

That was my impression as well. He was better received online than in the court room, where things just ended up sounding confusing and muddled. Either way, a very professional and polite witness.

 

[Just the Fax]

Wonder how many jurors (if any) followed the Cooper case?

 

[WolfpackWoman]

Wonder how many jurors (if any) followed the Cooper case?

I know that it was a topic in other recent cases during jury selection voir dire. I have to think it came up during voir dire of this one as well.

 

[Madeleine74]

Chad the cameraman did not focus on the overhead display when this guy testified, so all the cell tower info which call pinged off of which tower was not seen by the viewing audience. It was compelling at that point -- the map shown on the overhead screen. The rest of it... zzzzzz.

 

[Just the Fax]

He tracked quite well with the ladies, as I recall. Women on WS liked his voice, his suit, his tie and his general demeanor. I was in court the day he testified in the BC case. I found it tediously dull testimony at the time, and confusing because there were multiple phone numbers/cell phones in tiny print on a report.

I agree...very tedious and boring

 

[Madeleine74]

Ha. I would've been thrown out as a potential juror on just that question.

 

[ncsu95]

They are totally different types of witnesses, NCSU. RZ came forward, numerous times, talking about a jogger she saw for one second, a jogger with headphones. Gracie had a face to face, interaction, and take it from me, a *frightening* interchange, alone in a convenience store late at night, with a strange man swearing at her. Can any of us here who follow true crime, even begin to count the number of crimes against lone clerks in convenience stores late at night, especially *small females*? Kenneth McDuff took, raped and murdered a number of just such victims in his crime sprees. Just an example that pops to mind quickly. An interchange such as that is *memorable*, just as Gracie said. 'She remembers the people who swore at her'. She remembers the times she's felt threatened. IIRC, you're a big guy, have you ever worked retail? Alone? At night time?

RZ made eye contact and said hello. She recognized her from the picture. Gracie said he was 5'2" with little hair. RZ wasn't believeable because she said she believed she was wearing an ipod and not wearing earrings. Gracie is believable despite saying he was 5'2" with little hair. Again, I believe she saw Jason Young that morning. I'm glad she could see that he was driving a white SUV. But people bashed RZ and talked about how unbelievable she was, etc. I don't recall people sending her cyber hugs while she was testifying despite her doing what she thought was right, and doing what she believed. She was accused of being out for her 15 minutes of fame and an attention .

 

[Madeleine74]

Gracie is believable because her interaction with the person was someone who cussed her out. And at that point, he was the first person who had ever done so (later a woman cussed at her). Of course she remembered that. Further, they had been able to get a cash gas receipt off the system.

RZ said "Hi" to someone she thought was NC. But on the stand she wasn't completely sure, didn't remember details, didn't recognize NC's identical twin, sitting less than 20 ft away, and was more focused on not getting personal visits by police. She added nothing, and her testimony conflicted with the other witness who thought he saw NC running (in a different place), and NC could not have been in the 2 places at those times. The defense never referred to RZ in their closing...even they knew she had been a weak eye witness who had been discredited on the stand. Plus there was other evidence indicating NC was deceased by 6am.

 

[borndem]

This guy will testify to 28 calls to momma morning of murder, among other usage, including calls & texts to mistress MM.

Note: He's the one who detailed all of BC's cell activity on 7/11 and 7/12 and correlated those calls with cell towers (one tower was close to where NC's body was dumped). He also detailed all of NC's calls on 7/11 and showed which towers her calls connected to. He also introduced us to "seizure time," and explained why that was important.

Shh-h-h-h-h
Does anyone else (Boomer alert) faintly hear the Shirelles in the background:

Mama said there'll be days like this,
There'll be days like this Mama said
(Mama said, mama said)
Mama said there'll be days like this,
There'll be days like this my Mama said
(Mama said, mama said)

 

[Just the Fax]

RZ made eye contact and said hello. She recognized her from the picture. Gracie said he was 5'2" with little hair. RZ wasn't believeable because she said she believed she was wearing an ipod and not wearing earrings. Gracie is believable despite saying he was 5'2" with little hair. Again, I believe she saw Jason Young that morning. I'm glad she could see that he was driving a white SUV. But people bashed RZ and talked about how unbelievable she was, etc. I don't recall people sending her cyber hugs while she was testifying despite her doing what she thought was right, and doing what she believed. She was accused of being out for her 15 minutes of fame and an attention .

No, she said in 2006 he was tall and had blondish hair.
What she said 4 1/2 years later does not carry near as much weight.
She ID'd his pic 2 days later and pointed him out in court.
She was face to face and had a conversation, + ID'd his white SUV.
Unlike RZ, she had never heard of this case and did not seek out law enforcement.

 

[ncsu95]

No, she said in 2006 he was tall and had blondish hair.
What she said 4 1/2 years later does not carry near as much weight.
She ID'd his pic 2 days later and pointed him out in court.
She was face to face and had a conversation, + ID'd his white SUV.
Unlike RZ, she had never heard of this case and did not seek out law enforcement.

See, that comment right there is what I'm talking about. She contacted police when NC was still missing. There was no murder case at that point.

Forget it...back to the JY case.

 

[borndem]

Wonder how many jurors (if any) followed the Cooper case?

Hmmmm - I wonder if following the BC case was a potential witness voir-dire question....

 

[fran]

No, she said in 2006 he was tall and had blondish hair.
What she said 4 1/2 years later does not carry near as much weight.
She ID'd his pic 2 days later and pointed him out in court.
She was face to face and had a conversation, + ID'd his white SUV.
Unlike RZ, she had never heard of this case and did not seek out law enforcement.

She also did not even know why LE wanted to find this guy, when LE first contacted her. She hadn't heard of the Young case at all.

JMHO
fran

 

[Just the Fax]

I wish they could stipulate phone # = NAME of phone owner

Keeping up with all the numbers gives me a headache

 

[Just the Fax]

Foundation witnesses are boring as heck.

 

[fran]

I didn't catch that testimony, word for word. Was he saying there were so many calls to MM that day because they're indicative of dropped calls where the parties call each other back?

fran

 

[Just the Fax]

JLY is back in his holding cell

 

[cody100]

Cingular and AT&T dropped a lot of calls during that time frame, especially in certain areas of the country. Coverage is better now. So, I assume he thought that is one explanation for the numerous calls to MM

 

[fran]

See, that comment right there is what I'm talking about. She contacted police when NC was still missing. There was no murder case at that point.

Forget it...back to the JY case.

FWIW, and I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here. But this is one of the problems encountered, when there's a missing person's case. Witnesses see their picture and THINK they saw the person, when it many times, was actually someone else and a variation of the discription. I do not think the people necessarily do it on purpose, it's just one of those things that the mind plays tricks on you.

I've seen many cases where a perp has been arrested for a specific crime, but LE doesn't release a picture at first, because they are still investigating. Release of the picture can be harmful for possible eye-witness identification.

HTH,
fran

PS>......there were several people who stepped forward during the Peterson case and said they saw Laci the morning she disappeared. But it wasn't her and some were discounted, because there was another woman in the neighborhood who looked just like Laci from a distance and some of the sightings were found to be her. fwiw, fran....ETA the other woman that looked like Laci, was also pregnant and walked her dog too.

 

[gracielee]

RZ made eye contact and said hello. She recognized her from the picture. Gracie said he was 5'2" with little hair. RZ wasn't believeable because she said she believed she was wearing an ipod and not wearing earrings. Gracie is believable despite saying he was 5'2" with little hair. Again, I believe she saw Jason Young that morning. I'm glad she could see that he was driving a white SUV. But people bashed RZ and talked about how unbelievable she was, etc. I don't recall people sending her cyber hugs while she was testifying despite her doing what she thought was right, and doing what she believed. She was accused of being out for her 15 minutes of fame and an attention .

Did Gracie say he was 5'2"? Or did she say 'he was a few inches taller than me?' I don't recall, I've been up and down, getting laundry going here? I'm a very bad judge of height unless the person is standing right next to me. My therapist, who at one time I saw three times a week, I always thought was short and I described him as such. It wasn't until I took my husband with me to therapy, and saw the two of them standing side by side, that I realized my T and my H were the same approx. height, 6 ft. tall. T build was quite frail compared to H, so that's the only thing I could pinpoint as to how I could have been so much *off* with somebody I saw so frequently, in a small space, his office, and yet never realized he was quite a tall man. Certainly not 'my size', as I'd previously thought. MOO If someone is yelling at me, a stranger, at night, I personally think I'd be focussed on his eyes rather than height or hair, much like when someone has been held at gunpoint and they say 'all I saw was the gun'. Perhaps other females might give us their thoughts here? I've had a *different* background than many, so if I feel threatened by a male, my senses focus in on the eyes. How much *danger* am I in at this moment, etc.