Steven Avery: Guilty of Teresa Halbach's Murder?

Is Steven Avery responsible for the murder of Teresa Halbach?

  • He did it

    Votes: 253 29.7%
  • Some other guy did it

    Votes: 67 7.9%
  • Looks guilty at this point

    Votes: 74 8.7%
  • Not guilty based on evidence I've seen thus far

    Votes: 195 22.9%
  • Undecided, but believe new trial is in order

    Votes: 254 29.8%
  • Undecided all around; more information required

    Votes: 55 6.5%

  • Total voters
    852
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That is new information to me.

It would seem to point to some correlation between computer activity by someone in the Janda/Dassey household and Teresa's presence on the property. This computer activity would seem to be something worth concealing.
Agree, someone was definitely trying to hide something.
 
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Or a mother who knew there was 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 on the computer and tried to clean it out to protect her son(s).
The deletions on the Dassey computer were very time/date specific though. Why not just delete everything in that case?
BJ did get someone to wipe stuff off the pc just before LE seized it from their residence. Did she know that was going to happen, and if so, who told her?
 
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The deletions on the Dassey computer were very time/date specific though. Why not just delete everything in that case?
BJ did get someone to wipe stuff off the pc just before LE seized it from their residence. Did she know that was going to happen, and if so, who told her?

I'm sure Barb may have tried but did not know enough about the computer to do so. Bringing in someone from the outside would not have been a good idea as said person could've testified to their intent later.

I did watch MaM2 episode 8 and it's clear that the a computer is in BoD's bedroom. I'm guessing he lied all along as to not incriminate himself with the child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 images as apparently the violent stuff came after TH's murder.
 
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I'm sure Barb may have tried but did not know enough about the computer to do so. Bringing in someone from the outside would not have been a good idea as said person could've testified to their intent later.

I did watch MaM2 episode 8 and it's clear that the a computer is in BoD's bedroom. I'm guessing he lied all along as to not incriminate himself with the child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 images as apparently the violent stuff came after TH's murder.
BBM, According to KZ's motion Bobby Dassey was viewing the violent 🤬🤬🤬🤬 before and after Ms. Halbach's murder.
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You can read the motion in full here.

She alleged in the court filing that “the Dassey computer contains images of Ms. Halbach, violent 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 and dead bodies of young females viewed by Bobby Dassey at relevant time periods before and after the murder of Ms. Halbach.”
 
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There is also an Affadavit of Brad Dassey regarding deletions on the Dassey-Janda computer, ordered by Barb Janda-Dassey, of violent pornographic images.
http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-c...-Response-to-Motion-to-Correct-the-Record.pdf

Here is a direct link to his affidavit http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-c...-Filed-Motion-for-Reconsideration.pdf#page=36 I was just looking at it too Karinna lol I know I read it back when it was filed, but forgot that it also says that he contacted the authorities, I don't know if we have record of that, but LE should. I am cautious with people coming forward all these years later, but if it was something mentioned back then too... it does give it a bit more credibility. JMO
 
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Here is a direct link to his affidavit http://www.stevenaverycase.org/wp-c...-Filed-Motion-for-Reconsideration.pdf#page=36 I was just looking at it too Karinna lol I know I read it back when it was filed, but forgot that it also says that he contacted the authorities, I don't know if we have record of that, but LE should. I am cautious with people coming forward all these years later, but if it was something mentioned back then too... it does give it a bit more credibility. JMO
Thanks for posting up the direct link missy.
 
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Dan O'Donnell? No thanks...

IMO, Dan does a good job on KZ's claims. The best part however is not from Dan, but is Brendan's jailhouse call to his mom in Dan's episode 8. I had never heard the whole call, but it's obvious to anyone listening that Brendan had some involvement in TH's murder. And the part about Kevin Rahmlow saying he told Officer Colborn at the Cenex station on 11/4 that he saw TH's car, but Colborn wasn't working that day ... lol.
 
  • #1,311
Looks like some new information about to drop. Zellner has tweeted a hint that something is on the way.
 
  • #1,312
Looks like some new information about to drop. Zellner has tweeted a hint that something is on the way.
Yeah, i just saw her tweet. Sounds important. We wait in anticipation, :)
 
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IMO, Dan does a good job on KZ's claims. The best part however is not from Dan, but is Brendan's jailhouse call to his mom in Dan's episode 8. I had never heard the whole call, but it's obvious to anyone listening that Brendan had some involvement in TH's murder. And the part about Kevin Rahmlow saying he told Officer Colborn at the Cenex station on 11/4 that he saw TH's car, but Colborn wasn't working that day ... lol.

He is a reporter and news talk show host IIRC. I'm all for listening to opinions from the other side, but when that person admits that they had only watched the show and didn't look into anything else, they lose credibility IMO. It's like someone coming here saying they watched the series and now they believe they are innocent or guilty, I encourage everyone to read the documents for themselves, we have so much available that we didn't have when MaM was first released almost 3 years ago. I'm sure someone somewhere will listen and post what Dan got factually wrong this time lol

As for Brendan's call with his mom... it's not obvious to anyone listening, and again... you need to go back and see why and how that call came about. Colborn... there was a question about the 4th back during the trial... he shouldn't have been working that day, and if he remembered when and why he made that call, everything would be a lot clearer, but because it has never been clear, it leaves questions IMO
 
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I hope KZ got her Evidentiary hearing already? Just wondering what her news could be?
 
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Yeah, i just saw her tweet. Sounds important. We wait in anticipation, :)

nope... not getting excited ... not gonna do it haha

Someone on reddit sent KZ an email a week or so ago, from would I could decipher from the post over there, it had something to do with the RAV4, first, that it would have had to have been entered to tow it... that it wouldn't fit in the garage... and something to do with the battery. Apparently KZ got back to the poster. It was an interesting post, but confusing because they left some stuff out lol

Seriously though, if it's anything big... I will be surprised if we read it anywhere other than a motion :)
 
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He is a reporter and news talk show host IIRC. I'm all for listening to opinions from the other side, but when that person admits that they had only watched the show and didn't look into anything else, they lose credibility IMO. It's like someone coming here saying they watched the series and now they believe they are innocent or guilty, I encourage everyone to read the documents for themselves, we have so much available that we didn't have when MaM was first released almost 3 years ago. I'm sure someone somewhere will listen and post what Dan got factually wrong this time lol

As for Brendan's call with his mom... it's not obvious to anyone listening, and again... you need to go back and see why and how that call came about. Colborn... there was a question about the 4th back during the trial... he shouldn't have been working that day, and if he remembered when and why he made that call, everything would be a lot clearer, but because it has never been clear, it leaves questions IMO

Dan cites things from the court filings, so he must have read them. And sure, he is a reporter and talk show host ... and Moira & Laura are producers of a series for Netflix designed to attract viewers. I don't care what the source is if the facts are correct and allows the audience to make their own determination of guilt or innocence.

In Brendan's call, he admits to doing something and says he doesn't want to face SA in court. Why would he be afraid of facing SA in court if they had nothing to do with TH's murder ? And he tells his mom he did "some of it" ... just like a high school kid who said he only drank 2 beers instead of the 8 he actually drank. It's obvious he doesn't want to hurt his mom.
 
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nope... not getting excited ... not gonna do it haha

Someone on reddit sent KZ an email a week or so ago, from would I could decipher from the post over there, it had something to do with the RAV4, first, that it would have had to have been entered to tow it... that it wouldn't fit in the garage... and something to do with the battery. Apparently KZ got back to the poster. It was an interesting post, but confusing because they left some stuff out lol

Seriously though, if it's anything big... I will be surprised if we read it anywhere other than a motion :)
I agree missy that any new information like that would go into her next filing to the court.
I read about the reddit person that sent KZ an email, and it sounds interesting for sure. Guess we will find out soon enough. I know the suspense LOL,
 
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I agree missy that any new information like that would go into her next filing to the court.
I read about the reddit person that sent KZ an email, and it sounds interesting for sure. Guess we will find out soon enough. I know the suspense LOL,

Maybe she will get access to the Rav4 for testing ?
 
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I'm sure Barb may have tried but did not know enough about the computer to do so. Bringing in someone from the outside would not have been a good idea as said person could've testified to their intent later.

I did watch MaM2 episode 8 and it's clear that the a computer is in BoD's bedroom. I'm guessing he lied all along as to not incriminate himself with the child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 images as apparently the violent stuff came after TH's murder.

Thank You. You just confirmed Bobby lied under oath. Thats what i was waiting for.
 
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from KZ's twitter:



Kathleen Zellner Retweeted Kathleen Zellner

So join us on Twitter tomorrow & we’ll discuss new information re our investigation after MaM2 & answer your questions. @MakingAMurderer


I would like to hear more about the testing in Barb's garage...
 
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