Supreme Court Nominee #2

[oceanblueeyes]

“Ms. Keyser asked that I communicate to the Committee her willingness to cooperate fully with the FBI’s supplemental investigation of Dr. Christine Ford’s allegations against Judge Brett Kavanaugh,” Mr. Walsh said. “However, as my client has already made clear, she does not know Judge Kavanaugh and has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford.”

Leland Keyser to tell FBI she has no knowledge of Kavanaugh or party

I feel very sorry for her too since her name has been blasted in the media. To be brought into this must be a nightmare for her and her family. She has said from day one she wasn't ever at any party attended by BK....

She has no motive to lie. None...CB was her close friend. She shouldn't be expected to tell anything but the truth which she has done under the penalty of a felony. Yet some seem to insist she tells untruths to support her close high school friend.

Of course she is willing to speak to the investigators but she knows the truth remains the same.

If she actually knew anything she would be more than willing to help her close high school friend but she doesn't know anything about any of it and she isn't going to lie for anyone..even someone she has fond feelings for.

Imo.

 

[Elley Mae]

I don't know if CF's allegations against BK are true or not. It may have happened exactly as she said. It may have happened, but by someone else (two men have come forward saying they had committed the assault). Or it may not have happened at all. I don't know, no one here knows, and no one will ever know. Memories are, at best, imperfect and can be completely false despite the person being 100% sure. I've posted links previously regarding how common mistaken memories are.

As for "conspiring with the Dems to bring down BK"... I do not believe the world is that black and white. I do not know her motives, I don't know if she was motivated by patriotism or partisanship, if this is part of an assault victim's attempt to deal with the trauma or a 40 year old vendetta, or a little bit of all of these. I don't know if she "conspired" as you put it, or if she was unknowingly used for political purposes. (Feinstein did set her up with her lawyers)

But I do think she wrote that letter knowing the allegations would eventually be public. The lie detector test was in preparation for that.

And absolutely everything in DC is planned out for maximum political impact.

For what it's worth, I do believe she was assaulted in some fashion by someone. Beyond that, I would like to see something reasonably contemporaneous corroborating her allegations.

I think Mccarthyism was a stain on our democracy. I hate to see a resurgence in any form. Unconfirmed allegations should not destroy a person's career.

Agree.

I have wondered if it was a dream/nightmare.

Not remembering how she got there or how she left.

Or doesn’t want to say who that was.

 

[Inthedetails]

The devil is always in the details.

Sbm.

Hey, that's not true!

Signed,
Inthedetails.

 

[Mickey Mouse]

I can relate to anxiety over flying. I don't like flying even though I flew in the past. Perhaps her anxiety over it gotten worse.

Perhaps I'm remembering incorrectly, but when she took the polygraph in early August, wasn't it done in Maryland? She had flown to Maryland for a family birthday? I've googled, but haven't found where I read this. Anyone else remember?

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

I think that it's possible because the revelation of the alleged assault may cause Kavanaugh to not be confirmed which is the goal of the democrats. JMO

Thank you for your honest answer. I don’t believe the facts of this case support your assertion, but we can agree to disagree.

That said, I also can understand why the timing could appear suspect, especially in this hyperpartisan climate.

It’s sad and frustrating that everybody’s motives are always questionable.

 

[Mickey Mouse]

The Committee was told Dr. Ford has a fear of flying so they offered to go to Cali and interview her privately. Ford testified she wasn't aware of their offer. She also testified that she has flown frequently and she flew to testify. I agree it was orchestrated for maximum drama and that's why the Republican members are demanding an investigation. JMO

BBM and the Republican investigation will likewise be orchestrated for maximum impact.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

This reeks of enabling. Well, if the FBI isn't going to be able to look into how his drinking plays into this, let's hope those closest to BK plan an intervention if those closest to him deem it necessary.

I love your posts, @Cubby. Despite the topic and lurid details in this thread, I enjoy your perspective, insight and thoughtfulness. So glad you’re here!

 

[Mica]

Perhaps I'm remembering incorrectly, but when she took the polygraph in early August, wasn't it done in Maryland? She had flown to Maryland for a family birthday? I've googled, but haven't found where I read this. Anyone else remember?

The polygraph was administered on August 7 at the Hilton Hotel in Linthicum Heights, MD, and one week after Ford wrote her letter to Feinstein.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

BBM and the Republican investigation will likewise be orchestrated for maximum impact.

I sure hope that happens.

 

[Boodles]

Agree.

I have wondered if it was a dream/nightmare.

Not remembering how she got there or how she left.

Or doesn’t want to say who that was.

As I said before, I was assaulted during a party in high school. I am absolutely clear who it was. I’m unclear about who the guys were who pulled the guy off me. I have no idea who got me home. It’s not even an important piece of info to me who drove me home.

I wasn’t dreaming or having a nightmare. How insulting to imply that a woman dreamt about her sexual assault because she doesn’t remember her ride home.

 

[Boodles]

Perhaps I'm remembering incorrectly, but when she took the polygraph in early August, wasn't it done in Maryland? She had flown to Maryland for a family birthday? I've googled, but haven't found where I read this. Anyone else remember?

Rehobeth, Delaware, iirc. She was there for her grandmother’s funeral. She testified about this.

ETA: I may be wrong about the poly being done at Rehobeth. Someone else said Hilton in MD. Something occurred at Rehobeth, maybe it was during her trip there that she took the poly in MD.

 

[Mickey Mouse]

The polygraph was administered on August 7 at the Hilton Hotel in Linthicum Heights, MD, and one week after Ford wrote her letter to Feinstein.

Thank you .

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

Loosely? Is that enough to be found guilty beyond the reasonable doubt? When exactly did it happen? Where exactly did it happen? We don't even know that.

They know when and where it happened. Just because they didn’t write down the exact time or date or a home address doesn’t make what happened to them a fantasy.

Like I’ve mentioned before in this thread, I can’t tell you the date I was raped or the address of the home in which it happened.

Similarly, my mother recently revealed she was sexually assaulted as a sophomore in high school. She ended up breaking out two car windows in her attempt to get away from him. She can’t tell me what date it happened, or what road he drove her to, and it happened just outside of the small town in which she grew up.

She just shared with me today a second incident in high school in which a mutual friend drove her out of town instead of giving her a ride home from the small town football game. She can’t even remember his name, but she could describe everything about him, and would recognize him if she saw him. He kidnapped her and attempted to rape her, telling her, “We’re not going anywhere” until she did what he wanted.

Memories work that way during traumatic events.

“He was this small, quiet, nerdy, unassuming guy,” she said. “I knew nobody would believe me.”

That unfortunate truth — and others like it — is what keeps victims locked in silence.

 

[simba16]

As I said before, I was assaulted during a party in high school. I am absolutely clear who it was. I’m unclear about who the guys were who pulled the guy off me. I have no idea who got me home. It’s not even an important piece of info to me who drove me home.

I wasn’t dreaming or having a nightmare. How insulting to imply that a woman dreamt about her sexual assault because she doesn’t remember her ride home.

I'm sorry Boodles. Hope you are healing. It is staggering the number of sexual assaults. Things must change beginning with mindsets.
It is just bewildering to me that people can think Trump is credible and not accept any other narrative despite overwhelming evidence.

 

[Elley Mae]

Perhaps I'm remembering incorrectly, but when she took the polygraph in early August, wasn't it done in Maryland? She had flown to Maryland for a family birthday? I've googled, but haven't found where I read this. Anyone else remember?

Yes, in conference room at a hotel by/near bwi airport. Funny I picked at package there today, bwi cargo, & drove on 495 south over potomac, Kavanaugh’s on the left & Ford’s on the right.

 

[Mickey Mouse]

Rehobeth, Delaware, iirc. She was there for her grandmother’s funeral. She testified about this.

Thank you.

 

[nothingnew]

In other accounts Leland says she believes Dr Ford.

Anything under oath can be referred for criminal prosecution if the person is found to have lied. I think everyone is or should be watching their P's and q's right now.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

Feinstein is the one who had a Chinese spy working for her for 20 years right?

I dunno, tbh. Is that relevant?

 

[Mickey Mouse]

Yes, in conference room at a hotel by/near bwi airport. Funny I picked at package there today, bwi cargo, & drove on 495 south over potomac, Kavanaugh’s on the left & Ford’s on the right.

Thank you. I'm a local to the DC metro as well.

 

[EuTuCroquet?]

I vehemently disagree. It is clear, if you pay attention, that news networks are being run by political philosophies. Their job is to report the truth. Not to report whatever their politically affiliated CEO's want reported.

You have been brainwashed. We all have been brainwashed.

JFK warned you America. Now his warnings are being validated.

I do not know wtf is going on or what entity is responsible , but the manipulation is clear.

It is as clear as day. Wake up!

@CoolJ, I’ve been a journalist for 20+ years. I know this industry.

We can agree to disagree. That’s fine with me.

However, I’m not brainwashed. I read, research, contemplate, discuss and question things more than almost anyone else I know. I don’t toe anyone else’s line.

Also, there are legitimate, honest, factual news sources out there.

My worry is that all the far left/right, biased bullcrap gets shouted out with bullhorns and clickbaity headlines. Sometimes the bullcrap is what everyone ends up fighting about.

It does make it more difficult to parse the nonbiased, honest reporting from the crapbirds stirring controversy just to earn big bucks off our gullibility.