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  • #721
Again. No link, no lie.

Mean while is it a fact that dr. Ford is a dr.?

I say no.

We get it that Christine Ford won’t be on your Christmas card list.
 
  • #722
Collins makes an interesting point that few politicians, particularly on the Senate floor, have had the chutzpah to make: Not only was there little, if any, evidence corroborating Ford’s claims, but the more time passed, the more the FBI looked into the allegations, and the more the media seemed to collude with Democrats, the more the process looked like a dysfunctional circus masquerading as a political crusade.

Susan Collins gave Senate Democrats the scolding they deserve
 
  • #723
Collins makes an interesting point that few politicians, particularly on the Senate floor, have had the chutzpah to make: Not only was there little, if any, evidence corroborating Ford’s claims, but the more time passed, the more the FBI looked into the allegations, and the more the media seemed to collude with Democrats, the more the process looked like a dysfunctional circus masquerading as a political crusade.

Susan Collins gave Senate Democrats the scolding they deserve


Collins was right on point!
 
  • #724
An ex-boyfriend of Christine Blasey Ford has come forward to contradict her testimony that she was claustrophobic and had trouble flying as a result of her alleged assault - but was slammed as a liar by the woman he claimed Ford coached.

Ex-boyfriend of Christine Ford says she WASN'T afraid of flying or closed spaces | Daily Mail Online

A man claiming to be an ex-boyfriend of Ford's piled on in a statement to Fox News, saying that Ford had no problem taking a tiny propeller plane in Hawaii when they were dating.

He said they carried on a long distance relationship while she was living in Hawaii that ended when he found out she'd been unfaithful to him.

LOL, another one bites the dust.
 
  • #725
Again. No link, no lie.

Mean while is it a fact that dr. Ford is a dr.?

I say no.

"Taken in total, what we have here are some apparent outright lies, some deceptions, some mischaracterizations, some evasions and a general picture of someone who decided that giving truthful answers to all these admittedly personal questions would only get him into more trouble. Does that mean Kavanaugh shouldn’t serve on the Supreme Court? Sen. Jeff Flake told “60 Minutes” that if it became clear that Kavanaugh had not been truthful in his testimony, then he should be rejected.

Whether you think any particular falsehood is a big deal or not, there’s no doubt that he hasn’t been honest or truthful. Now the senators just have to decide whether they care."

Opinion | All of Brett Kavanaugh’s lies, distortions and absurdities

a couple more:
Brett Kavanaugh's College Roommate Says Supreme Court Nominee Lied Under Oath
Republicans Have Decided to Ignore All of Brett Kavanaugh’s Lies
How We Know Kavanaugh Is Lying | Current Affairs
All The Lies Brett Kavanaugh Told | HuffPost
Judge Brett Kavanaugh Lied Repeatedly in Confirmation Process - Jeff Flake Signals He'll Be Confirmed to Supreme Court
Here's a Very Smart and Informative Video Entitled "How We Know Brett Kavanaugh Is Lying"
 
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"Taken in total, what we have here are some apparent outright lies, some deceptions, some mischaracterizations, some evasions and a general picture of someone who decided that giving truthful answers to all these admittedly personal questions would only get him into more trouble. Does that mean Kavanaugh shouldn’t serve on the Supreme Court? Sen. Jeff Flake told “60 Minutes” that if it became clear that Kavanaugh had not been truthful in his testimony, then he should be rejected.

Whether you think any particular falsehood is a big deal or not, there’s no doubt that he hasn’t been honest or truthful. Now the senators just have to decide whether they care."

Opinion | All of Brett Kavanaugh’s lies, distortions and absurdities

a couple more:
Brett Kavanaugh's College Roommate Says Supreme Court Nominee Lied Under Oath
Republicans Have Decided to Ignore All of Brett Kavanaugh’s Lies
How We Know Kavanaugh Is Lying | Current Affairs
All The Lies Brett Kavanaugh Told | HuffPost
Judge Brett Kavanaugh Lied Repeatedly in Confirmation Process - Jeff Flake Signals He'll Be Confirmed to Supreme Court
Here's a Very Smart and Informative Video Entitled "How We Know Brett Kavanaugh Is Lying"

Thank you for the links. I did not watch the video, but I read the others.

They all appear to be opinion pieces. I don't see the facts people are reporting.

I see second and third hand info and opinion that may or may not be factual. I see innuendo. I see grasping at straws.
 
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"Taken in total, what we have here are some apparent outright lies, some deceptions, some mischaracterizations, some evasions and a general picture of someone who decided that giving truthful answers to all these admittedly personal questions would only get him into more trouble. Does that mean Kavanaugh shouldn’t serve on the Supreme Court? Sen. Jeff Flake told “60 Minutes” that if it became clear that Kavanaugh had not been truthful in his testimony, then he should be rejected.

Whether you think any particular falsehood is a big deal or not, there’s no doubt that he hasn’t been honest or truthful. Now the senators just have to decide whether they care."

Opinion | All of Brett Kavanaugh’s lies, distortions and absurdities

a couple more:
Brett Kavanaugh's College Roommate Says Supreme Court Nominee Lied Under Oath
Republicans Have Decided to Ignore All of Brett Kavanaugh’s Lies
How We Know Kavanaugh Is Lying | Current Affairs
All The Lies Brett Kavanaugh Told | HuffPost
Judge Brett Kavanaugh Lied Repeatedly in Confirmation Process - Jeff Flake Signals He'll Be Confirmed to Supreme Court
Here's a Very Smart and Informative Video Entitled "How We Know Brett Kavanaugh Is Lying"



Yet, 6 FBI background checks for security clearance through the years in addition to this most recent supplemental check didn't pick up on any of this? Amazing, huh. Opinions aren't facts. The FBI has the facts.


From FAQS - Security Clearances

13. Why would I be denied a security clearance?

Various reasons exist for why someone may be denied a security clearance. The most important factors in an investigation are the individual's honesty, candor, and thoroughness in the completion of their security clearance forms. Every case is individually assessed, using the Security Executive Directive 4: National Security Adjudicative Guidelines, to determine whether the granting or continuing of eligibility for a security clearance is clearly consistent with the interests of national security.

The adjudicative guidelines include: Allegiance to the United States; Foreign Influence; Foreign Preference; Sexual Behavior; Personal Conduct; Financial Considerations; Alcohol Consumption; Drug Involvement and Substance Misuse; Psychological Conditions; Criminal Conduct; Handling Protected Information; Outside Activities; and Use of Information Technology.

FAQs


Code of Federal Regulations - Adjudicative Guidelines

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2012-title32-vol1/xml/CFR-2012-title32-vol1-part147.xml
 
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Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, said Friday that she intends to vote “present” on the confirmation of Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, so that Sen. Steve Daines, R-Mont., can attend his daughter’s wedding -- avoiding the need for a frantic flight to D.C. for the father of the bride.

Murkowski to vote ‘present’ on Kavanaugh so Daines can attend daughter’s wedding

Vote, "Present", should not be allowed. She is paid to do a job, not just show up.

Daines, is allowed to have a day off for his daughter's wedding. But, if he had to go back, he will.

"Present", should not be allowed.
 
  • #730
Vote, "Present", should not be allowed. She is paid to do a job, not just show up.

Daines, is allowed to have a day off for his daughter's wedding. But, if he had to go back, he will.

"Present", should not be allowed.


It’s a rare custom....

Pairing of votes in the Senate (sometimes called “live pairs”) is a rare but Senate accepted custom between senators on opposing sides of an issue so their votes essentially offset each other. They reach a gentleperson’s agreement to “pair” their votes if one of the senators will be absent.

"It will not change the outcome of the vote," Murkowski said. "But I do hope that it reminds us that we can take very small, very small steps to be gracious with one another. And maybe those small, gracious steps can lead to more."
 
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It’s a rare custom....

Pairing of votes in the Senate (sometimes called “live pairs”) is a rare but Senate accepted custom between senators on opposing sides of an issue so their votes essentially offset each other. They reach a gentleperson’s agreement to “pair” their votes if one of the senators will be absent.

"It will not change the outcome of the vote," Murkowski said. "But I do hope that it reminds us that we can take very small, very small steps to be gracious with one another. And maybe those small, gracious steps can lead to more."

Rare? Obama voted present 130 times.

I think it's ridiculous.
 
  • #733
I’ve been reading about how the family of BK is suffering and isn’t this so shameful, horrid, so wrong, and on, and on.... That everyone is hurting him, and his family.
Where is B.K.’s personal responsibility to his family, to the American people? . Why do some believe that he should be exempt from personal responsibility , and above the morals, and standards of the American people. He is responsible for any, and all of the “suffering” his family is going through. His children have been used by him to garner sympathy. It is his fault for what his family is going through, not everyone else.

Just to be clear, I do not believe people should be threatening anyone.

This is also not about any accusations of sexual assault, any longer. THIS IS ABOUT BK LYING! He has lied under oath, AND HIS HORRENDOUS BEHAVIOR was that of a spoiled child, not a S.C. Judge!

He uses his family to show that he is a “family man”, a Christian, a Coach, a Lawyer who graduated from an expensive school, that no average American could ever hope to attend.and therefore in a lot of people minds, he can not be a liar, a drunk, a sexual deviant. These same people forget about men like the BTK Killer, he
was a family man, coach, christian, dedicated to his church, and no one ever suspected that he was a profound LIER, who raped, tortured, and thats only one example.
it is so easy for his staunch supporters to ignore who he really is, when they only care about putting him into office, so they can TRY to change everything that they have judged are unacceptable. This is setting a HORRIFIC precedent for all future generations! lie, bully, blame anyone, and everyone else, than repeat this procedure over and over. and lie more, never tell the truth, because truth is

Even when the FACTS SHOW in his OWN WRITINGS, and HIS OWN words, that he is a profound lier. He has lied to the committee (the commitee acknowledged this), he has led throughout this whole process, and those lies are recorded for anyone who wants to take the time and learn more about B.K.’s lies. Of course if you want to continue to believe and promote the false narrative that you do not believe B.K. lied, that is your choice. However, it is a fact, so no matter how much denying you do, it will not change the facts, or the truth! It will not change the fact, and truth that, Congressman, Senators, B.K.’s friends, and Law professors, have listed his lies, yet we still have to read comments from people who insist, that they do not believe he lied. That is willful ignorance. That does not help this country, when people will turn a blind eye to the continuing lying from those people in power. It is NOT alright for them to lie, and lie, and lie. We need to hold them accountable, and not give them a free pass, just because they are a WHITE PRIVILEGED SILVER SPOON IN THE MOUTH “Christian WHITE Man” HE has lied throughout his career, this is a fact, and is verified throughout this forum, with links.
if anyone is interested in the TRUTH, it is easy
to find.

Sorry if this appears rambling, or confusing. I have M.S., so sometimes my posts may not make any sense, to anyone, including myself

MOO

Really? Comparing/equating BK to a serial killer?

I've said before, a number of times, that there are many reasons to oppose BK, but over the top rhetoric only harms otherwise legitimate concerns.

Waiting for Godwin's Law next.
 
  • #734
Assuming Kavanaugh is confirmed later today, will he be sworn in tonight?
 
  • #734
Delete. Duplicate post.
 
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  • #735
Evey alleged lie that I've seen proposed have turned out to not be lies when looked at by me. JMO

I know fake news

here is what happened followed by video

During his confirmation hearing on Thursday, Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh was asked to explain his reaction to emails he received in 2003 containing documents stolen from Democratic senators and staff.

His explanation, even when confronted with an email from a second staffer with the subject line “spying,” was that it was all perfectly normal.

After detailing an email Kavanaugh received from former Republican senate staffer Manny Miranda which contained text “obviously taken from my internal emails,” Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) asked, “did any of this raise a red flag in your mind?”

Kavanaugh’s explanation began with an attempt to justify receiving stolen emails from his political opposition as commonplace.

What you need to know about the ‘stolen email’ allegations against Brett Kavanaugh
“It did not, Senator, because it all seemed consistent with the usual kind of discussions that happen,” he said. “And sometimes people do say things of, here’s what my boss is thinking, but don’t share it around.”

Except Miranda wasn’t giving Kavanaugh a heads up on what his boss was thinking, but rather a senator of the opposing party. Kavanaugh further explained it as a colleague “trying to give you a heads up on something” which he said “seems standard.” He tried to conclude by saying such an email wouldn’t have “raised anything at all for me” when Leahy interrupted.

“Not even where it came from?” he asked Kavanaugh, turning to an email from another staffer named Barbara Ledeen. “On June 5, 2003, you received an e-mail from a Republican senate staffer with subject line ‘spying.’ That is not overly subtle. This staffer appears in over 1,000 documents we received together with both you and Mr. Miranda. She says she has ‘a mole for us.’ And so forth. None of this raised a red flag with you?”

kavanaugh-email.jpg


Kavanaugh’s response returned to th


620 = here - he has been claiming he knew nothing about stolen emails and spying on dems

at 620 they ask him a email sent to him with subject of SPYING


Kavanaugh tried to downplay his involvement in the hacking of Democrats. It was a disaster.
 
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Assuming Kavanaugh is confirmed later today, will he be sworn in immediately? Please share link if you find

No.

This info is from a blog....not an MSM source...


When a nominee is confirmed, the Secretary of State is notified of the Senate’s actions and a confirmation letter is sent to the White House. The President signs a document called a commission, which is sent to the new Justice. Then, the confirmed Justice takes part in two swearing-in ceremonies. In one instance, the Justice take a judicial oath; the other ceremony involves a constitutional oath. A current Supreme Court Justice administers both oaths, and the constitutional oath is administered at a public ceremony attended by the President. In 2017, Chief Justice John Roberts gave the oath to Gorsuch in the private ceremony, while Associate Justice Anthony Kennedy did likewise at the public ceremony.

What happens next in the Supreme Court confirmation process? - National Constitution Center
 
  • #737
No link to lie, no lie.

I am with you Elley Mae, i keep reading how he lied under oath, committed perjury etc.. but i have yet to see a side by side comparison of his words vs. the factual truth. Show me that and i will agree. It is quite simple really.
 
  • #738
Brett Kavanaugh Cannot Have It Both Ways

I was in the end prompted to write this essay because on Thursday Kavanaugh published a remarkable editorial in the Wall Street Journal in which he apologized for his rash words and attempted to reclaim for himself the “independence and impartiality” so necessary for judges. But judicial temperament is not like a mask that can be put on or taken off at will. Judicial temperament is more than skin-deep. It is part of the DNA of person, as is well illustrated by Merrick Garland, who never once descended to the partisan rancor of Kavanaugh, despite the Senate’s refusal even to dignify his nomination with a hearing.
 
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I know fake news

here is what happened followed by video

During his confirmation hearing on Thursday, Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh was asked to explain his reaction to emails he received in 2003 containing documents stolen from Democratic senators and staff.

His explanation, even when confronted with an email from a second staffer with the subject line “spying,” was that it was all perfectly normal.

After detailing an email Kavanaugh received from former Republican senate staffer Manny Miranda which contained text “obviously taken from my internal emails,” Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) asked, “did any of this raise a red flag in your mind?”

Kavanaugh’s explanation began with an attempt to justify receiving stolen emails from his political opposition as commonplace.

What you need to know about the ‘stolen email’ allegations against Brett Kavanaugh
“It did not, Senator, because it all seemed consistent with the usual kind of discussions that happen,” he said. “And sometimes people do say things of, here’s what my boss is thinking, but don’t share it around.”

Except Miranda wasn’t giving Kavanaugh a heads up on what his boss was thinking, but rather a senator of the opposing party. Kavanaugh further explained it as a colleague “trying to give you a heads up on something” which he said “seems standard.” He tried to conclude by saying such an email wouldn’t have “raised anything at all for me” when Leahy interrupted.

“Not even where it came from?” he asked Kavanaugh, turning to an email from another staffer named Barbara Ledeen. “On June 5, 2003, you received an e-mail from a Republican senate staffer with subject line ‘spying.’ That is not overly subtle. This staffer appears in over 1,000 documents we received together with both you and Mr. Miranda. She says she has ‘a mole for us.’ And so forth. None of this raised a red flag with you?”

kavanaugh-email.jpg


Kavanaugh’s response returned to th


620 = here - he has been claiming he knew nothing about stolen emails and spying on dems

at 620 they ask him a email sent to him with subject of SPYING


Kavanaugh tried to downplay his involvement in the hacking of Democrats. It was a disaster.

The Brett Kavanaugh perjury controversy, explained by 4 legal scholars

The Character Assassination of Brett Kavanaugh

These articles explain why there is no lies/perjury.

The Brett Kavanaugh perjury controversy, explained by 4 legal scholars

Brett Kavanaugh: Character Assassination By Democrats | National Review
 
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