In the interview they talk about how their mother was a crusader against them being paroled as was all the other sisters and family. They also talk about Faith and being held accountable even though they are "christians" now. If you commit the crime, do the time, that was their words.
Susan Atkins wants out of jail to die...
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Oh I dont know about that.
southcitymom
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Yes - I heard that - thanks for the link. I was just wondering if anyone from their family had said anything regarding the present request. The one article where I found something from Sharon's sister - it was hard to tell if she was talking about the recent request for compassionate release or the former parole hearings.
I would think from how they have been in the past that they would NOT want Susan to be allowed to come home. JMO I cant speak for them of course but I would assume that is how they still feel.
southcitymom
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I am sure they will have something to say about it if they want to. I'm just curious. Past sentiment is often, but not always, indicative of future sentiment. In would think Ms. Tate's input would be something those who make the decision wish to consider.
I am sure we will be hearing something soon about it, I am curious as well.:waitasec:
Right I understand you don't think she would harm someone again. But she did it once she could do it again.
This talks about susans possible release and what some family has to say. http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-atkins14-2008jun14,0,5380790.story
southcitymom
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Great find! Thank you so much!
Yr Welcome.
Sharon Tate's only living relative, her sister Debra has said:
"Haunted by the brutality of her sister's death, Tate said she struggled to find compassion for the convicted killer.
"She showed no compassion. She told my sister as she slit her throat that she didn't (care) for her or her unborn baby," Tate said.
"If I could, I would say to her that I would pray for forgiveness on her soul at her moment of death when she has paid her debt to society. At that point, I'll show compassion and pray for her soul.""
Sharon Tate's murderer could be released from prison soon
Regarding the 'compassionate release':
"Under state law, terminally ill inmates can be considered for early release so they can die with and at the expense of loved ones. Dying inmates must meet certain criteria, Thornton said. They must have six months or less to live and must not be a threat to society, she said. They must also have family members willing and able to care for them."
"A diagnosis and evaluation of Atkins was conducted by prison officials, who concluded she met the requirements, Thornton said. If the Corrections Department recommends compassionate release, the Board of Parole would review the request and could recommend it to a sentencing court. The soonest the Board of Parole could review the matter is its next scheduled meeting July 15, said Thornton.
Once the request reaches the court, it would have 10 days to hold a hearing."
In another article in the Los Angeles Times:
40 years after brutal murders, Susan Atkins asks for mercy
"Debra Tate, the actress' sister and only surviving relative, strongly opposes the release of Atkins or any members of the Manson family.
"They are serial killers and they were convicted to die and they need to stay incarcerated," she said. "People don't just become cured from being sociopaths. There's no deprogramming, no pills, no drugs that make that go away."
Margaret DiMaria, the sister of Jay Sebring, a hairdresser who was killed at the Benedict Canyon home, agreed.
"It is most unfortunate that Ms. Atkins now suffers a terminal illness. However, in the eyes of the law and in memory of her victims, I fail to see how one thing correlates to the other," DiMaria and her son Anthony said in a statement Friday. "She repeatedly committed crimes requiring evil premeditation and executed them in a cavalier manner that afforded her victims no mercy. The sentence Ms. Atkins now serves should not be mitigated because fate has struck this blow."
But Atkins' petition has won some guarded support from unlikely quarters, including Vincent Bugliosi, the prosecutor who successfully sought the death penalty for Atkins.
"Under these unique circumstances, told she has only about six months to live . . . . I don't have any objection to her being released," he said. "She has paid substantially, though not completely, for her horrendous crimes. Paying completely would mean imposing the death penalty."
Atkins' death sentence was automatically commuted to a life term after the state Supreme Court overturned capital punishment in 1972. But cancer has become another kind of death sentence, Bugliosi said, noting that she has already had a leg amputated.
Bugliosi said his decision to support Atkins' release wasn't easy."
"Haunted by the brutality of her sister's death, Tate said she struggled to find compassion for the convicted killer.
"She showed no compassion. She told my sister as she slit her throat that she didn't (care) for her or her unborn baby," Tate said.
"If I could, I would say to her that I would pray for forgiveness on her soul at her moment of death when she has paid her debt to society. At that point, I'll show compassion and pray for her soul.""
Sharon Tate's murderer could be released from prison soon
Regarding the 'compassionate release':
"Under state law, terminally ill inmates can be considered for early release so they can die with and at the expense of loved ones. Dying inmates must meet certain criteria, Thornton said. They must have six months or less to live and must not be a threat to society, she said. They must also have family members willing and able to care for them."
"A diagnosis and evaluation of Atkins was conducted by prison officials, who concluded she met the requirements, Thornton said. If the Corrections Department recommends compassionate release, the Board of Parole would review the request and could recommend it to a sentencing court. The soonest the Board of Parole could review the matter is its next scheduled meeting July 15, said Thornton.
Once the request reaches the court, it would have 10 days to hold a hearing."
In another article in the Los Angeles Times:
40 years after brutal murders, Susan Atkins asks for mercy
"Debra Tate, the actress' sister and only surviving relative, strongly opposes the release of Atkins or any members of the Manson family.
"They are serial killers and they were convicted to die and they need to stay incarcerated," she said. "People don't just become cured from being sociopaths. There's no deprogramming, no pills, no drugs that make that go away."
Margaret DiMaria, the sister of Jay Sebring, a hairdresser who was killed at the Benedict Canyon home, agreed.
"It is most unfortunate that Ms. Atkins now suffers a terminal illness. However, in the eyes of the law and in memory of her victims, I fail to see how one thing correlates to the other," DiMaria and her son Anthony said in a statement Friday. "She repeatedly committed crimes requiring evil premeditation and executed them in a cavalier manner that afforded her victims no mercy. The sentence Ms. Atkins now serves should not be mitigated because fate has struck this blow."
But Atkins' petition has won some guarded support from unlikely quarters, including Vincent Bugliosi, the prosecutor who successfully sought the death penalty for Atkins.
"Under these unique circumstances, told she has only about six months to live . . . . I don't have any objection to her being released," he said. "She has paid substantially, though not completely, for her horrendous crimes. Paying completely would mean imposing the death penalty."
Atkins' death sentence was automatically commuted to a life term after the state Supreme Court overturned capital punishment in 1972. But cancer has become another kind of death sentence, Bugliosi said, noting that she has already had a leg amputated.
Bugliosi said his decision to support Atkins' release wasn't easy."
That looks pretty black and white. The victims families do not want her released. I hope they honor the real victim's wishes.
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Jay Sebring's sister Margaret was eloquent in her response. The victim's families should be heeded.
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I'm surprised at Bugliosi's stance on this. I don't understand how he fought so determinedly for a death penalty conviction for Susan, and now thinks justice will still be served if she's allowed to be released. He became famous for this case and in his book, Helter Skelter, he strove to convince everyone of the evil that is the Manson family.
Now, I wonder where his compassion for the victims' famlies has gone. Better he would have answered "No comment," regarding this issue rather than verbally degrade the justice given to the families. He seems to be contradicting everything he believed in and fought for all those years ago.
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I have a mixed opinion on this one; if she is dying then she is not at risk to commit any more crimes as she physically cannot. Yet many murders and some not even murders die in prison all the time and they're not released, so why make exception to the rule? Maybe the prison can take her on a shackled field trip for a day or something..
They were given the DP but it was overturned in the state of California in 1970's I believe. She then got Life, so why should they have been released? What if DP was overturned in Say, Scott Peterson:waitasec:, should we then let him out in 30 years? I dont think we should She is where she should be. IMO
Actually, after the State Supreme Court struck down Capital Punishment in 1972, she got 7 years to life with the possibility of parole.
I am of the minority opinion that she should be given a compassionate release. She has been in the hospital since March 17, almost 4 months. By the time the hearing is held, if she lives that long, she will have been in the hospital for 5 months. And, according to her husband, she likely will remain hospitalized even if she is given a release. She is very ill.
With the exception of Manson, Tex Watson, and possibly Squeaky because she is certified mentally ill, I believe all the others should be paroled.
That's just my opinion.
I am of the minority opinion that she should be given a compassionate release. She has been in the hospital since March 17, almost 4 months. By the time the hearing is held, if she lives that long, she will have been in the hospital for 5 months. And, according to her husband, she likely will remain hospitalized even if she is given a release. She is very ill.
With the exception of Manson, Tex Watson, and possibly Squeaky because she is certified mentally ill, I believe all the others should be paroled.
That's just my opinion.
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