Suspect - Daniel Heinrich #2

[Sasquatch321]

I know Heinrich has taken you all out of the driveway by the force of LE, but I'm still just sitting here indian style with items awaiting advancement in technology from the third dig...

 

[getaclue101]

Bring it, and explain your bonehead mistake in 2004 LE!

They will.... It'll begin September 2016

 

[British99]

What have you found? I'm not leaving the driveway yet.

Court documents put Heinrich in the driveway, his shoe print and his tire tracks put him there Mr squatch

 

[ELOCsoul]

Court documents put Heinrich in the driveway, his shoe print and his tire tracks put him there Mr squatch

...and the Paynesville Police pointed him out 9 months before Jacob was taken...

 

[Sasquatch321]

Court documents put Heinrich in the driveway, his shoe print and his tire tracks put him there Mr squatch

Is this your new one, because its fading fast.

 

[Sasquatch321]

...and the Paynesville Police pointed him out 9 months before Jacob was taken...

Yes they did, too bad Jared couldn't at the time. Without that only DNA could confirm it 25 years later.

 

[British99]

...and the Paynesville Police pointed him out 9 months before Jacob was taken...

What a shame...shameful

 

[human]

For years, I had been trying to remember the name of the boy who the Wetterlings put on the poster with Jacob. They said that children who were not white and middle class did not get the same exposure. They were really into helping those families.

Anyway, the boy was Bobby Mayotte and he had been killed acidentally by playmates. A gun shot.

He was found in a ravine years later. There had been searches done for him. So it is possible that Jacob could be in the woods somewhere.

http://www.shawanoleader.com/content/remains-believed-be-those-boy-who-vanished-88

 

[Trackergd]

For years, I had been trying to remember the name of the boy who the Wetterlings put on the poster with Jacob. They said that children who were not white and middle class did not get the same exposure. They were really into helping those families.

Anyway, the boy was Bobby Mayotte and he had been killed acidentally by playmates. A gun shot.

He was found in a ravine years later. There had been searches done for him. So it is possible that Jacob could be in the woods somewhere.

http://www.shawanoleader.com/content/remains-believed-be-those-boy-who-vanished-88

It is very possible. I cannot tell you how many times over the years that missing people have been found in areas that have been searched, some times more than once. Many times it's because the searchers run into a natural feature that they either don't think they can get through (so the victim probably could not either), or they just don't have the energy to climb down that last embankment, they are hot/cold and tired so they are not focused or they fail to take a flashlight and look into a drain pipe or small cave. It happens, even to the best teams and much more so if the searchers are untrained friends, family and volunteers in the community. Usually a hunter, trail runner or hiker finds them years later.

The only good way to do a forensic search in the wooded area suggested is to line all the searchers up fingertip to fingertip, and have them walk in a straight line through the woods at a very slow walk, looking down at the ground for clues..at this point pieces of clothing, bits of sneaker and bones. If the area is large, it needs to be broken up into grids on a map and each one carefully searched (with some overlap) and marked off. The moment someone sees something of interest, they blow their whistle and the entire line stops until a forensics investigator checks the object, then the line can move on after it is marked and plotted. The problem with working from the center of a circle, as the team moves out, like a pie wedge, the sections get larger and larger as you work towards the outer diameter and you end up missing large sections as the team spreads out.

A very good cadaver dog team may be of some assistance if Jacob is in the ground, even in the den of scavenger wildlife. In the interests of "no stone unturned", this might be something to organize at the local level. If there are no local search teams that are available or will do it, a local fire department, Boy Scout troop or Civil Air Patrol wing may be willing under the guise of a "SAR training drill".

 

[Trackergd]

They will.... It'll begin September 2016

Do you have a MSM link or other verifiable source for such a specific time frame? I am honestly curious.

I understand you believe DR is innocent, and at this point I agree as there is much more compelling evidence pointing at DH, or at least enough evidence that appears to point towards "someone" other than DR. Before the pictures of the tire tracks and footprints got a really good looking at and the FBI called them consistent with DH's tire tracks, DR as the named POI by LE did appear to be a potential abductor. Inconsistencies in his statements, his unique personality and his proximity to the abduction site were not working in his favor. I honestly hope that he is cleared and vindicated in the press.

Once SCSD named DR a POI, they opened the gates to speculation by the public at large. Speculation and opinion is one thing, proof is quite another. Thanks in advance for any positive information you can provide.

 

[Trackergd]

Is this your new one, because its fading fast.

C'mon Sas..give folks a little "wiggle room" here. Everyone is trying to help. No one is forcing any of us to be here looking at these cases and trying to figure them out. There are court documents to that effect and there is a MSM link as I noted. OK, I'm a bit biased as it works with my pet scenario, at least I admit it. It does not hurt to at least look at both sides of the argument. None of us are 100% correct 100% of the time.

 

[Sasquatch321]

C'mon Sas..give folks a little "wiggle room" here. Everyone is trying to help. No one is forcing any of us to be here looking at these cases and trying to figure them out. There are court documents to that effect and there is a MSM link as I noted. OK, I'm a bit biased as it works with my pet scenario, at least I admit it. It does not hurt to at least look at both sides of the argument. None of us are 100% correct 100% of the time.

Really? I just most likely solved an ages old media mystery and now noone knows that Jacobs last print was found next to a tire track for sure, noone is giving it the time of day, because that starts to turn back to LE's theory of a perp on foot again. But we are so tired of all that evidence right?

 

[Trackergd]

Really? I just most likely solved an ages old media mystery and now noone knows that Jacobs last print was found next to a tire track for sure, noone is giving it the time of day, because that starts to turn back to LE's theory of a perp on foot again. But we are so tired of all that evidence right?

I get it, I really do. I AM giving it the time of day. I want to try it for myself with my Jeep and one of my grandsons on the same road material. If I get the same results you did in the garden, I will be 100% behind you and we are back to trying to figure out what happened in the driveway and sleuth what SCSD is not telling anyone. Fair enough?

 

[British99]

C'mon Sas..give folks a little "wiggle room" here. Everyone is trying to help. No one is forcing any of us to be here looking at these cases and trying to figure them out. There are court documents to that effect and there is a MSM link as I noted. OK, I'm a bit biased as it works with my pet scenario, at least I admit it. It does not hurt to at least look at both sides of the argument. None of us are 100% correct 100% of the time.

Thank you Tracker

 

[Sasquatch321]

I get it, I really do. I AM giving it the time of day. I want to try it for myself with my Jeep and one of my grandsons on the same road material. If I get the same results you did in the garden, I will be 100% behind you and we are back to trying to figure out what happened in the driveway and sleuth what SCSD is not telling anyone. Fair enough?

Thank you Tracker

 

[shergal]

I very seldom travel through the St cloud area, but my husband had an appointment up there, so I rode along. I noticed on our car GPS system how wooded and how many bodies of water (probably a lot of abandoned quarries) are in the Richmond area. Has anyone but me ever wondered if Heinrich took Jacob but actually did not kill him?...but instead turned him loose in the wooded Richmond area? ( that is where he took Jared... I know that was an abandoned farmsite). Could he have told Jacob to run into the woods, it looks like to me most of it is such dense thicket that it could not have been searched very easily and was probably not in the immediate search area. If Jacob ran into the woods, got lost or fell and broke a leg, as I recall it was not many days after the day that he was taken that the nights got pretty cold. Could he have died of exposure? The run or I will shoot seems to be Heinrich's mode of operation. I never thought about this until my ride through the area.

I'm fairly sure by now hunters or hikers would have found his body or remnants if that was the case. I think they should have dragged that small quarry/pothole right near where Jared was taken. Probably too late now.

 

[Sasquatch321]

I'm fairly sure by now hunters or hikers would have found his body or remnants if that was the case. I think they should have dragged that small quarry/pothole right near where Jared was taken. Probably too late now.

It's never too late to check it out. But first, lets get out of the driveway. If LE will say here is how we think Jacob and Heinrich approached the vehicle and this is how his car matches up with tracks at the scene, then I will be the first to dive into that quarry before September. But it is in my opinion that LE ruled out Kevin and Heinrichs prints in 2004. Hence the interview in which Sanner adapts to vthis new theory on CNN worldwide news.

 

[shergal]

For years, I had been trying to remember the name of the boy who the Wetterlings put on the poster with Jacob. They said that children who were not white and middle class did not get the same exposure. They were really into helping those families.

Anyway, the boy was Bobby Mayotte and he had been killed acidentally by playmates. A gun shot.

He was found in a ravine years later. There had been searches done for him. So it is possible that Jacob could be in the woods somewhere.

http://www.shawanoleader.com/content/remains-believed-be-those-boy-who-vanished-88

Article about Bobby and the boys who were with him. It shows how people keep secrets for years even when they know exactly what happened to the victim.

 

[shergal]

It's never too late to check it out. But first, lets get out of the driveway. If LE will say here is how we think Jacob and Heinrich approached the vehicle and this is how his car matches up with tracks at the scene, then I will be the first to dive into that quarry before September. But it is in my opinion that LE ruled out Kevin and Heinrichs prints in 2004. Hence the interview in which Sanner adapts to vthis new theory on CNN worldwide news.

I believe LE ruled out Kevin, (I'm not sure how - but even Patty has stated he was not involved), but I have never heard that they ruled out Heinrich. I think they erred and forgot about Heinrich over the years as various LE worked on the case.

 

[Sasquatch321]

I believe LE ruled out Kevin, (I'm not sure how - but even Patty has stated he was not involved), but I have never heard that they ruled out Heinrich. I think they erred and forgot about Heinrich over the years as various LE worked on the case.

This is impossible if the match said today was definite in 1990. Matches arent forgotten.