Suspect Drew Peterson #2

[Pocono Sleuther]

Are the older children going to school everyday? I assume they are. Can you imagine being them??? The looks, the whispers. I feel so sorry for them.

 

[maureeng]

They haven't!

It's hard to believe. How could they leave something like that. They worry about the wrong things on that site. They are so worried about cross posting to other blogs but they have this unprotected website with vulgarities - the story has enough sordid aspects - what is this going to do to the older boys self-image?

Greta had the preacher on tonight and he gave a very believable account of Stacy confessing that Drew killed Kathleen. It will be published in its entirety on gretawire within 2 days.

Joel was on impugning the character of the preacher and is very anxious to come on the show and have it out with Greta's panel - I wonder if her boys will behave?

 

[drumstick]

Even though DP is a police officer, he is still "human". (UGH, I hated to say that).

And humans make mistakes. DP has a BIG PLUS on his side with the fact that he is a police officer and knows how (most/some) police officers think when investigating a crime. So, he would definately put out "red herrings" to throw them off.

With Morphey coming out and talking to his neighbor. was the start of DP's downfall. (IM0) From there, with the other "tidbits" coming in from family members, etc. LE............is investigating those leads to the fullest extent.

I am trying to be optimistic here and hoping that DP did not throw out so many "red herrings" that everyone is wrong. That thought keeps me awake too much every night.

chico: I want this "person" arrested! (Barbar was a Elephant.......Pinocchio was a puppet, and Lahr was the a Lion!)

You make some good points!

I don't have a two year old in my house but I want to ask all of you who do about that special dynamic in this case with regards as to what was going on in that house Sunday night and Monday.

How in the world could someone think straight enough to hide a body, cover tracks, and throw out false leads with four kids at home and one
of them being a two year old?

Aren't two year olds a full time job all by themselves?

I'm just trying to figure out how all this happened in the midst of a house full of kids...

Any Moms or Dads with a toddlers have any thoughts about this?

~

 

[TGIRecovered]

I can almost gaurantee those two older boys were doing everything they could to entertain the little ones to keep them out of DrewP's hair because they are smart enough to be afraid of their dad.
Kris heard the argument and then the sudden silence. Suddenly, Stacy was not there. Not so long ago, his first mom died and he had to know some were suspicious his dad killed her. He had to wonder if the kids would be next.
Drew would have been very different around the kids than he was when he was around adults. Alone at home with the kids and a dead body to dispose of, Drew would have been short tempered and distracted.
I think those boys' survival instincts kicked in and they worked together to keep take care of the younger ones so that they wouldn't suffer DrewP's wrath.

Susan

 

[SuziQ]

And in the middle of all of this Thomas is expected to go to band practice like everything is hunky dory.

 

[Camper]

Well I have close contact with my 2 year old smart as a whip grandson. He takes a very LONG nap in the afternoons. He of course sleeps in a crib with sides, and he cannot climb out of it. I think IF he saw anything like Drew P's children, he would be able to elaborate on a specific thing he saw, but not go into any wonderfully specific DETAILED time line.

I also have a 4 year old grand daughter, who is everywhere ALL THE TIME. Nothing keeps her quiet UNLESS IT IS THE TV. She can sit there transfixed like a zombie. BUT it may be because she just spent one year overseas with her folks who did NOT have TV access in Turkey. They are near me now and NO TV in their home til their belongings arrive by shiip. They do come over often to my house, and they lived with me for two weeks until they found a home of their own. I watch her watch TV at every opportunity, with great care given to WHAT she is watching.

The two older ones could be into those hand held or TV battle games etc. LONG hours spend doing that combatively together MAYBE, donut know.

IF there was a special room for this type of activity, they could well have been considered to be in a DIFFERENT world than the one Drew P was living in on that DAY.

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[maureeng]

Big night - Dan Abrams takes on Joel trying to spread rumors about the Pastor
http://video.msn.com/?mkt=en-us&brand=msnbc&tab=m5&rf=http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19599749/&fg=&from=00&vid=a167fcdd-0700-45f2-bce2-1e4b3932dc5d&playlist=videoByTag:mk:us:vs:0:tag:News_Comment%20-%20Analysis:ns:MSNVideo_Top_Cats:10:sd:-1:ind:1:ff:8A

Kyle Pirry and more of the pastor were on Greta last night = I found them very believable and their videos will be posted on the record today.

Another interesting thing - several months ago, there are reports that Drew shot his weapon through his bedroom floor into the garage, a foot away from where Stacy was standing. http://cbs2chicago.com/westsuburban...e.2.608427.html

 

[Taximom]

Thanks for the video, maureeng. I couldn't believe my eyes and ears when I heard Brodsky say that on Abrams last night!

 

[DeltaDawn]

Brodsky and Drew are a perfect match..both bullying, lying, loud mouth fools who couldn't tell the truth if their life depended on it...and Drew, most likely your life is going to depend on the truth being told and you spending the rest of your life behind bars.

 

[SuziQ]

Kyle Piry on Greta:

http://tinyurl.com/3598jy

 

[mysteriew]

Peterson Wants Seized Property Back
State's Attorney Calls Petition An Attempt To Pry Into Investigation
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/drew.peterson.property.2.609134.html

Drew Peterson seeks confiscated property
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=5829491

Drew Peterson's attorney to ask for vehicles, guns back
http://www.wqad.com/Global/story.asp?S=7482457&nav=1sW7

This last article kinda hints that it is the weapons that DrewP wants back so badly.

 

[DeltaDawn]

I think that when one looks at Drew Peterson and his relationships with others, even the pastor, you see a repeat of what works for Drew..intimadation, fear, bullying and coersion.

Drew made sure Stacy knew just enough to be afraid of him..too afraid to leave ..he tried to make his other wives feel that way too.

I am thinking that with the BBPD he used the same tactics with other officers there. Involved them just enough in his sideline business with drugs and selling info, that they too were afraid to come forward for fear of Drew's retaliation or Drew's contacts retaliation. As in: if you bring me down I will implicate you in all of this too.

My hope is that other cops on the force that served with Drew are now coming forward with what info they have on his other activities. This will only help others to come forward who may have info on Drew and Stacy but out of fear have not done so.
The more people that step up and speak out about Drew the less power Drew has, until finally he is powerless because he is the one the needs to be afraid instead of feared.

 

[mysteriew]

You know DD, I think that is what is needed. One officer to step forward and tell what he knows, and that info being given to media. That would go a long way toward showing the public that they can have confidence in coming forward with whatever they may know.

 

[SuziQ]

I think that when one looks at Drew Peterson and his relationships with others, even the pastor, you see a repeat of what works for Drew..intimadation, fear, bullying and coersion.

Drew made sure Stacy knew just enough to be afraid of him..too afraid to leave ..he tried to make his other wives feel that way too.

I am thinking that with the BBPD he used the same tactics with other officers there. Involved them just enough in his sideline business with drugs and selling info, that they too were afraid to come forward for fear of Drew's retaliation or Drew's contacts retaliation. As in: if you bring me down I will implicate you in all of this too.

And once Stacy lied to LE about what she knew regarding Kathleen's death, her goose was really cooked. Sure she could have gotten immunity or something along those lines. But I'm sure Drew told her every chance he got, that she was in as deep as he was.

 

[SuziQ]

You know DD, I think that is what is needed. One officer to step forward and tell what he knows, and that info being given to media. That would go a long way toward showing the public that they can have confidence in coming forward with whatever they may know.

I agree, something needs to happen to counter the attacks that Brodsky and Drew have been waging against everyone that has come forward with info.

 

[mysteriew]

Opinion article

"Innocent until proven guilty" is not an intellectual tool, but a dictum for how our government must behave. We do not put people in prison because they seem guilty. Instead we try them.

That concept doesn't have much validity outside of the law. A third of all murders going unsolved means that a great many people -- perhaps including Peterson -- are not innocent at all, despite having never been found guilty. Rather, they are guilty in fact until proven guilty in law, if that moment ever comes.

No, the reasoning to apply to Peterson is something called "Ockham's razor," a very handy logical tool that basically says, if you are presented with a pattern of facts, you should draw the conclusion that makes the fewest and most reasonable assumptions. The example I always give to illustrate Ockham's razor is: If your window is broken and your TV is gone, you assume that somebody broke in and took it, and not that the TV somehow hurled itself out the window.

That doesn't mean it's impossible -- someone could have entered your apartment, grabbed your TV and tossed it out. But theft is the first and best guess.

Now apply Ockham's razor to Drew Peterson. Sure, his third wife might have drowned herself in that bathtub, and the fourth inexplicably vanished and stayed away for reasons mysterious. Possible? Sure. But Ockham's razor says we should embrace the simpler, more likely explanation: That the cop married to both women might have had something to do with what happened. That's why the media keeps focusing on this. Not because we're ghouls, but because we see this guy going about his business, mugging for the cameras, and reason tells us that something's wrong here. No one is more eager to have Peterson out of the headlines than reporters -- we're sick of him, too. But when something isn't right, we're trained to sink our teeth into it and growl until it is set right. And something isn't right here, big time. It's only logical.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/steinberg/689141,CST-NWS-stein10.article

 

[DeltaDawn]

I wonder how Stacy felt about the insurance money ? It would have been blood money..that had to work on her conscience after awhile too.

But Drew's power all stems from fear..so we need enough people to come forward to light the darkness..then Drew will be powerless. Even Brodsky's techiques are based more on fear and bullying then good lawyer skills. But I predict he will not be allowed to continue this way because someone will sue him or a judge will muzzle him with contempt of court once he reaches the court room..

 

[Taximom]

I'm beginning to think if you know anything about DrewP, you better come forward now before he gets to you!

 

[curiositycat]

Opinion article

"Innocent until proven guilty" is not an intellectual tool, but a dictum for how our government must behave. We do not put people in prison because they seem guilty. Instead we try them.

That concept doesn't have much validity outside of the law. A third of all murders going unsolved means that a great many people -- perhaps including Peterson -- are not innocent at all, despite having never been found guilty. Rather, they are guilty in fact until proven guilty in law, if that moment ever comes.

No, the reasoning to apply to Peterson is something called "Ockham's razor," a very handy logical tool that basically says, if you are presented with a pattern of facts, you should draw the conclusion that makes the fewest and most reasonable assumptions. The example I always give to illustrate Ockham's razor is: If your window is broken and your TV is gone, you assume that somebody broke in and took it, and not that the TV somehow hurled itself out the window.

That doesn't mean it's impossible -- someone could have entered your apartment, grabbed your TV and tossed it out. But theft is the first and best guess.

Now apply Ockham's razor to Drew Peterson. Sure, his third wife might have drowned herself in that bathtub, and the fourth inexplicably vanished and stayed away for reasons mysterious. Possible? Sure. But Ockham's razor says we should embrace the simpler, more likely explanation: That the cop married to both women might have had something to do with what happened. That's why the media keeps focusing on this. Not because we're ghouls, but because we see this guy going about his business, mugging for the cameras, and reason tells us that something's wrong here. No one is more eager to have Peterson out of the headlines than reporters -- we're sick of him, too. But when something isn't right, we're trained to sink our teeth into it and growl until it is set right. And something isn't right here, big time. It's only logical.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/steinberg/689141,CST-NWS-stein10.article

Thanks for this. Very helpful information. This is not a forum, it's an education. LOL:blowkiss:

 

[Liz]

Greta's interview with Drew's former fiancee, Kyle, last night, for anyone who missed it:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,316557,00.html