SUSPECT IN CUSTODY MN - 2 Minnesota lawmakers and their spouses were shot by someone impersonating a police officer, JUNE 13,2025

[Vaderman]

My congresswoman was on his hit list and we're a few states away from Minnesota. I wonder if he really thought he'd pull of a multi-state spree.

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

The Justice Department is charging 57-year-old Vance Boelter with federal murder, stalking and shooting offenses. If convicted on the federal murder charge, he could face the death penalty.
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When asked why U.S. prosecutors have not brought terrorism charges, Thompson said the investigation is still in its early stages and more charges could still come.

“We brought the charges that we think are appropriate right now,” Thompson said.

Federal charges: Boelter went to 4 homes as he sought to kill lawmakers

The man who authorities say shot and killed House Speaker Emerita Melissa Hortman and her husband and injured Sen. John Hoffman and his wife is now facing capital charges.

kstp.com

But there isn't a federal domestic terrorism charge, is there?

 

[acutename]

he shot their dog

Minnesota lawmaker and family dog killed in attack​

KHBS
https://www.4029tv.com › article › minnesota-lawmake...




6 hours ago — An animal non-profit outside Minneapolis said the golden retriever, Gilbert, did not survive the attack.

 

[Damarna]

He can still be changed with terrorism either federally or by the state. Maybe this is a one step at a time process to make sure they are sitting the i's and crossing the t's. IMO

 

[Damarna]

My congresswoman was on his hit list and we're a few states away from Minnesota. I wonder if he really thought he'd pull of a multi-state spree.

I doubt it but he may have considered the fear and terror he would instill in people just thinking about what could have happened.

 

[Knox]

Is it possible that VB was "on call" for his funeral home gig so stayed in Minneapolis to be close to where he needed to go?

As far as Vance Boelter is concerned, he worked for our company from August 28, 2023, until he voluntarily left on February 20, 2025," said a statement from the owner of Metro First Call, a funeral home based in Savage.

Vance Boelter's former funeral home boss speaks out

Vance Boelter, suspect in Rep. Hortman's murder, left his funeral home job in February 2025.

www.kare11.com

 

[LadyL]

Boelter [snip] was carrying out his gruesome extraction work as part of an organ donation program, said the friend and sometime roommate David Carlson.

“He’d always said, ‘I need rest for work so I’m sharp’ because he was extracting eyeballs. You gotta be sharp for that,” Carlson said.

Accused Minnesota assassin Vance Boelter extracted eyeballs from corpses for a living — and was on call night of double murder

On another note I just learned Illinois house representative Nikki Budzinski was one of the persons named in his target list. yikes. As a coworker said, there are much higher profile IL Dems he could have targeted. I suspect it is her very vocal stance on abortion and reproductive rights that landed her there.

Illinois US Rep. Nikki Budzinski of Illinois Among Lawmakers Named in Writings of Suspected Minnesota Shooter

what??? organs are extracted by doctors/coroners in a hospital - not done at a funeral home!
is this really true??

 

[Megnut]

Childhood friend says Minnesota suspect had 'darkness inside of him'

A lifelong friend of the alleged Minnesota gunman says Vance Boelter had been struggling to find work and was wrestling with a “darkness that was inside of him” at the time of the shootings.

apnews.com

 

[Knox]

what??? organs are extracted by doctors/coroners in a hospital - not done at a funeral home!
is this really true??

Interesting. One of them said he voluntarily quit on February 20, 2025?

So would this be a donor scenerio not for transplant but for medical research, so it can be done at the mortuary? Sounds sketchy as hell, but I know nothing about this stuff.

Probably lying, but what a bizarre thing to make up.

 

[Megnut]

As far as Vance Boelter is concerned, he worked for our company from August 28, 2023, until he voluntarily left on February 20, 2025," said a statement from the owner of Metro First Call, a funeral home based in Savage.

Vance Boelter's former funeral home boss speaks out

Vance Boelter, suspect in Rep. Hortman's murder, left his funeral home job in February 2025.

www.kare11.com

So did he have no job in Minneapolis since February? But was still staying part-time at his friend's house, where he rented a room?
What's he been doing all this time?

Lurking in shadows, filling notebooks?

Yikes.

Jmo

 

[Knox]

So did he have no job in Minneapolis since February? But was still staying part-time at his friend's house, where he rented a room?
What's he been doing all this time?

Lurking in shadows, filling notebooks?

Yikes.

Jmo

The question we all want to know the answer too!

I suspect you’re correct, it took time to stalk and map out the locations. Wonder if his wife knew he quit at least one of funeral homes?

 

[Boxer]

I've thought about that. I am assuming she thought it was hinky but maybe the first priority was to verify that the person for the welfare check was ok. And she was waiting for backup too, iirc. It's too bad she wasn't able to keep eyes on him until backup arrived though. Jmo.

Maybe male police disrespect in not answering her happens often enough not to be noteworthy.

 

[Sundog]

So did he have no job in Minneapolis since February? But was still staying part-time at his friend's house, where he rented a room?
What's he been doing all this time?

Lurking in shadows, filling notebooks?

Yikes.

Jmo

In February, Boelter abruptly quit his job delivering bodies from assisted living facilities to a funeral home and returned for several weeks to the Democratic Republic of the Congo, where he had founded several companies focused on farming and fishing.

“I thought it was a mistake for him to quit his job,” Carlson said. “I didn’t think he was going to get anywhere with the Congo.”

Childhood friend says Minnesota suspect had 'darkness inside of him'

A lifelong friend of the alleged Minnesota gunman says Vance Boelter had been struggling to find work and was wrestling with a “darkness that was inside of him” at the time of the shootings.

apnews.com

 

[Boxer]

My congresswoman was on his hit list and we're a few states away from Minnesota. I wonder if he really thought he'd pull of a multi-state spree.

MOO Could have without the dispatch sergeant who was on it.

 

[Sundog]

The question we all want to know the answer too!

I suspect you’re correct, it took time to stalk and map out the locations. Wonder if his wife knew he quit at least one of funeral homes?

Childhood friend says Minnesota suspect had 'darkness inside of him'

A lifelong friend of the alleged Minnesota gunman says Vance Boelter had been struggling to find work and was wrestling with a “darkness that was inside of him” at the time of the shootings.

apnews.com

After he quit his job in the funeral industry, seems he went to the DRC for a few weeks, so his wife would have known. She may have even gone with him, although we don't know if she did or not.

 

[Sundog]

dbm duplicate

 

[Sundog]

My congresswoman was on his hit list and we're a few states away from Minnesota. I wonder if he really thought he'd pull of a multi-state spree.

We have a Congressmember in Ohio who was also on one of his lists. I'm surprised that many of the people on the his lists are making these public announcements due to potential copycat situations. Although I guess the lists have already been made public.

 

[AngTxGal]

On a now-defunct website for Revoformation, a nonprofit he founded several years later, Boelter laid out a basic biography and said he had been “ordained” in 1993. He said he had gone to a small Catholic college near Milwaukee — Cardinal Stritch, which is now closed — as well as Christ for the Nations Institute, a Dallas school that is part of the broad, nondenominational world of charismatic Christianity.

And, the bio claimed, he had made trips overseas to seek out “militant Islamists” to “tell them violence wasn’t the answer.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/06/17/vance-boelter-minnesota-shooting-christianity/

Interesting info on the Christ for the Nations connection. I’m in North Texas and have heard for the organization and founder Gordon Lindsay. The organization is based in Dallas and dates back to at least the 70’s to train and fund foreign missionaries.

Too strange
IMO

 

[AngTxGal]

Interesting. One of them said he voluntarily quit on February 20, 2025?

So would this be a donor scenerio not for transplant but for medical research, so it can be done at the mortuary? Sounds sketchy as hell, but I know nothing about this stuff.

Probably lying, but what a bizarre thing to make up.

I think the confusion is the word ‘donor’.
Most would think of an organ donor as giving a living organ that is quickly transplanted to another living person.

If the person passes and the organs can’t be used for transplant their body can still be used for scientific research. It is pretty common for students to dissect human cadavers as part of anatomy/ physiology courses in college. I’ve done some of that myself- and I didn’t go to medical school.

Someone would remove the organs that would be used for dissection. The funeral home would be exactly the place- eyes would be removed after the body has been embalmed. I assume collected in batches then sent to a supplier.

Yeah pretty disgusting- unless you are a person who has had eye surgery and benefited from the knowledge gained. The thing of nightmares- but someone has to do it.

IMO

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

He can still be changed with terrorism either federally or by the state. Maybe this is a one step at a time process to make sure they are sitting the i's and crossing the t's. IMO

There is no federal domestic terrorism charge, there is only a terrorism sentencing enhancement provision.

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R47885