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Has anyone heard anything credible about how this Vance guy supported himself and all of his interests, prior to this happening?
SUSPECT IN CUSTODY MN - 2 Minnesota lawmakers and their spouses were shot by someone impersonating a police officer, JUNE 13,2025
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I'd suspect his wife had money or a lucrative career, but I don't want to step over the line sleuthing her, since she's not been charged with anything, as far as I know.
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You don’t believe his Linked-In page?
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It’s also possible we may not find out. Things have changed in how certain types of criminal behavior is investigated and treated in the U.S.
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No fellow employees, co-workers or superiors have come forward to corroborate his claims, have they? Has anyone come forward to say they worked with him or were employed by him? Usually, the media would have reported something like that by now.
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My tongue in cheek comment means I don’t believe his employment history.
The only MSM verification I’ve seen and linked, is someone from one of the funeral homes. He said Vance worked there, but voluntarily quit right before his last trip to the Congo earlier this year.
Is there a sense that he was well off?
I recall Chad Daybell had a large family, owned his own home while working as a grave digger, then quit that to write his books and become a publisher, but the estimated income from that averaged out to just a few thousand per year (according to Wikipedia). His wife always worked in addition to raising the kids. They were quite poor, but took care to seem ok in superficial ways that others judge by.
Perhaps this suspect had borrowed money to create his dodgy businesses. Plus, cheap to live in the Congo.
But he was probably out of money and in serious debt, facing bankruptcy...
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Vance Boelter calls KSTP reporter from jail before federal court hearing
A judge granted a hearing extension for Vance Boelter, the man accused of shooting two state lawmakers and their spouses, after Boelter claimed he hadn't been able to sleep while in custody.
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This a-hole is proud of what he did. moo
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The man accused of fatally shooting state representative Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark, as well as injuring state senator John Hoffman and his wife, Yvette, will stay in federal custody after waiving a detention and preliminary hearing during his court appearance Thursday.
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Boelter, this time donning a yellow jail uniform, complained about conditions again at Thursday’s hearing and asked if the lights in his jail cell could be turned off sometimes.
But Acting U.S. Attorney Joe Thompson told reporters that neither his office or Judge Doug Micko has any power over the jail.
Boelter told Judge Micko that he is looking forward to court and to “the facts coming out.”
“I think Minnesotans want to know what’s going on,” Boelter said.
Thompson said a grand jury indictment must come within 30 days of Boelter’s arrest. Once that occurs, Boelter will enter a plea.
Vance Boelter tells judge he is 'looking forward to the facts about the 14th coming out,' will remain in federal custody
The man accused of fatally shooting House Speaker Emerita Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark, as well as injuring state Sen. John Hoffman and his wife, Yvette, will stay in federal custody after waiving a detention and preliminary hearing during his court appearance Thursday.
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The man accused of fatally shooting state representative Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark, as well as injuring state senator John Hoffman and his wife, Yvette, will stay in federal custody after waiving a detention and preliminary hearing during his court appearance Thursday.
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Boelter, this time donning a yellow jail uniform, complained about conditions again at Thursday’s hearing and asked if the lights in his jail cell could be turned off sometimes.
But Acting U.S. Attorney Joe Thompson told reporters that neither his office or Judge Doug Micko has any power over the jail.
Boelter told Judge Micko that he is looking forward to court and to “the facts coming out.”
“I think Minnesotans want to know what’s going on,” Boelter said.
Thompson said a grand jury indictment must come within 30 days of Boelter’s arrest. Once that occurs, Boelter will enter a plea.
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Vance Boelter calls KSTP reporter from jail before federal court hearing
A judge granted a hearing extension for Vance Boelter, the man accused of shooting two state lawmakers and their spouses, after Boelter claimed he hadn't been able to sleep while in custody.
What an amazing sense of entitlement. This guy thinks he's a hero for killing and maiming these innocent people. He probably does have other members of his cult who are telling him he's a hero.
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This a-hole is proud of what he did. moo
Vance Boelter tells judge he is 'looking forward to the facts about the 14th coming out,' will remain in federal custody
The man accused of fatally shooting House Speaker Emerita Melissa Hortman and her husband, Mark, as well as injuring state Sen. John Hoffman and his wife, Yvette, will stay in federal custody after waiving a detention and preliminary hearing during his court appearance Thursday.
The man accused of fatally shooting state representative Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark, as well as injuring state senator John Hoffman and his wife, Yvette, will stay in federal custody after waiving a detention and preliminary hearing during his court appearance Thursday.
....
Boelter, this time donning a yellow jail uniform, complained about conditions again at Thursday’s hearing and asked if the lights in his jail cell could be turned off sometimes.
But Acting U.S. Attorney Joe Thompson told reporters that neither his office or Judge Doug Micko has any power over the jail.
Boelter told Judge Micko that he is looking forward to court and to “the facts coming out.”
“I think Minnesotans want to know what’s going on,” Boelter said.
Thompson said a grand jury indictment must come within 30 days of Boelter’s arrest. Once that occurs, Boelter will enter a plea.
Am I reading this incorrectly? Is the US attorney frustrated because he can't do anything to improve living conditions for this monster while he's in jail? Frankly, it wouldn't surprise me.
Another member of the cult who is hooked on nutty conspiracy theories. He's not insane, he's just not very bright and easily duped into believing endless streams of daily propaganda.
The state of Minnesota needs to hold onto this guy and not let the feds take him. They'll release him on his own recognizance if given the chance, so he can kill more lawmakers. JMO
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I agree about the entitlement: assassins always see themselves as heroes. The 911 guys believed they were heroes, Timothy McVeigh wrote a letter explaining how he was a hero, the guy who shot the CEO believes he is a hero.
,Also, the whole allure and gratifaction of conspiracy theories is, IMO, "I know the truth about what's really going on. I'm not a sucker like everyone else"
I don't see signs he was part of cult - it may just have been his own personal paranoia.
This has become so common among lone shooters, I'm hoping at some point it stops inspiring shock and awe. Because that's exactly what feeds them. If they could understand no one will care who they are or what they believe, and just see them as another nutjob with a gun, would that perhaps take away their motivation? They want to feel special and superior. They're not.
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Just another delusional whackjob, no one would follow him. He’s a fake, who tried to build an online presence - inflating his career history and creating fake companies.
I think he had some people fooled. But I bet many more saw right through him.
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I think we have to look at a broader definition of the people pursuing endless conspiracy theories these days. It's a tough call, but we have to face the fact that it has morphed into a social movement. It's a cult because it has leaders who manipulate the masses and steer them towards new conspiracy theories. They follow like sheep and now, they're beginning to see themselves as a sort of movement that has to "save the world". There are a growing number of influential people out there working to make these people feel their conspiracy theories are legitimate and their means of reacting to the paranoia is valid and necessary.
JMO, that makes it a cult, one being manipulated by people with ill intent. It's part of a movement.
Ask anyone who has lived under an authoritarian dictatorship.
Luigi was not part of a movement. His motive for murder wasn't political.
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Suspect in Minnesota Assassination Ordered to Stay in Jail Until Federal Trial
The man faces federal and state murder charges over shootings that killed a state lawmaker and her husband and wounded another couple. He told a judge he was “looking forward to court.”
And sadly, we see them on both sides of the political spectrum, the extreme left and the extreme right. Cult-like social movements and ideologies.Suspect in Minnesota Assassination Ordered to Stay in Jail Until Federal Trial
The man faces federal and state murder charges over shootings that killed a state lawmaker and her husband and wounded another couple. He told a judge he was “looking forward to court.”www.nytimes.com
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Does anyone know how the couple who were injured are doing now?
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They're probably still recovering. News isn't giving a lot of information, probably for their security, to protect them from other radicals. Just a guess, but I assume they're still in the hospital.
Here's an article from a few days ago in which the Hoffman's daughter described how Boelter made them line up next to each other, then shot each of them.
Hoffman family releases statement about Hortman funeral
State senator, wife and daughter say they are devastated by the deaths of State Rep. Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark.
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The sheriff of the Sherbourne county jail says Boelter's claims are bogus. He was observed on security camera with his eyes closed, resting for several hours at a time
His case is moving now to a federal grand jury. I'm still counting on the state pursuing their own charges and investigation.
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