SUSPECT IN CUSTODY TN - 4 people found deceased, related to an infant abandoned in car seat in someone's yard (Dyer County, TN) 29 July 2025

  • #541
Also it would have been so unexpected and sudden, depends how he went about it and where everyone was situated - if the cars drove up at different times, even just seconds or minutes apart, if he'd killed two adults first and then the second car came a while later and he killed those two before they had a chance to even realise something was going down.

Will we ever get to know what has happened? Maybe the victims phones will tell a story?

Why did they all drive out to this area? What was the purpose or did he intentionally lure them with the idea of a planned execution? Or did they get into arguments and disputes? Why did he spare the baby if he was so murderous and hate filled? Was the sister / aunt of victims (his girlfriend) also present at the time? Is the perpetrator known to have a psychotic psychiatric disorder such as schizophrenia or what can be the possible explanation? It's so heartbreaking and also crazy senseless slaughter until will know more.

Is there DP in this state?

JMO MOO
What, if AD kidnapped the baby first, then forced his future 4 victims to come to that certain area (crime scene) to get the baby back - in exchange for something unknown? He murdered his victims, drove off and abandoned the baby at some driveway. Young parents and a grandma would have been willing to save their little child/grandchild. The young uncle of the baby maybe accidentally was present: wrong time, wrong place (but unfortunately a witness). MOO and speculation
 
  • #542
So Kaitlyn is the aunt / great aunt, who formerly worked at the prison, allegedly was fired for having a relationship with AD? Allegedly has a child and is possibly pregnant to AD?
Correct. (sister to the 38 yr old grandmother, Cortney)
 
  • #543
What, if AD kidnapped the baby first, then forced his future 4 victims to come to that certain area (crime scene) to get the baby back - in exchange for something unknown? He murdered his victims, drove off and abandoned the baby at some driveway. Young parents and a grandma would have been willing to save their little child/grandchild. The young uncle of the baby maybe accidentally was present: wrong time, wrong place (but unfortunately a witness). MOO and speculation

Yes I guess the baby could have been kidnapped and held hostage to ransom :(
 
  • #544
I don't expect he'll do well back in prison. The picture of him standing in front of the bunkbeds (in various posts throughout the threads) while incarcerated show him to be small and weaselly. I can't imagine he had a lot of clout inside, except maybe as related to contraband via his GF, who is no longer there. Small, weaselly guy who behaved stupidly. His 'gang' didn't help him on the outside and I doubt they'll be helping him on the inside. Good. I hope I'm right.

JMO
 
  • #545
Ita.
Pretty difficult to take the lives of four people, chances are that at least one of them would try to flee ?
The victims would have been in a blind panic & fear.
Imo.
I may turn out to be wrong but I'm starting to think they might have gathered here regularly for reasons, iykwim, only this time he shot everyone.
 
  • #546
I may turn out to be wrong but I'm starting to think they might have gathered here regularly for reasons, iykwim, only this time he shot everyone.
The VL seem like a more sophisticated gang. How did someone from a tiny place get mixed up with them at such a young age (I'm only assuming that the crime he went to prison for initially was connected to gang activity -- maybe an initiation? IMO OMO). And then, was it because of his relationship with the security guard that the others in her family got involved? Also, it would interesting to know if something like this would be approved by the gang? Digging further into gang culture would be interesting -- aren't there codes of conduct that would frown upon what he did? Unless the family were all high-powered drug dealers or something (which seems unlikely)?

^^^ none of these thoughts are based on anything we've seen in the news, etc. -- just speculating about how on earth he could have been motivated to do this?

Could he have been connected somehow with this?

ETA: Vice Lords history -- came out of Chicago. Mentions that they became big in Memphis (search for "Memphis". Search for "Unknown Vice Lords" also.
 
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  • #547
Also it would have been so unexpected and sudden, depends how he went about it and where everyone was situated - if the cars drove up at different times, even just seconds or minutes apart, if he'd killed two adults first and then the second car came a while later and he killed those two before they had a chance to even realise something was going down.

Will we ever get to know what has happened? Maybe the victims phones will tell a story?

Why did they all drive out to this area? What was the purpose or did he intentionally lure them with the idea of a planned execution? Or did they get into arguments and disputes? Why did he spare the baby if he was so murderous and hate filled? Was the sister / aunt of victims (his girlfriend) also present at the time? Is the perpetrator known to have a psychotic psychiatric disorder such as schizophrenia or what can be the possible explanation? It's so heartbreaking and also crazy senseless slaughter until will know more.

Is there DP in this state?

JMO MOO
I have so many questions as to the WHY and I'm hoping he will give answers to that during his interrogation.

Yes we have the DP and this case qualifies for it. It will really surprise me if anything but the DP is on the table.
 
  • #548
If they knew he was in his pool house lair they probably snuck up on him and grabbed him whilst he was about to go and toilet or somesuch. It must have taken a lot of creeping up on that pool house quietly to not alert him as it looks like such a quiet remote area.

I'd be scared to live in a house like that but on the aerial view, all the houses look similar - large residences with pools and grounds. Is that normal? Don't people worry about being so isolated and home invasion etc? Maybe I've lived in a high density city too long but that would freak me out.

JMO MOO
I know they do practice stealth. Taking them by surprise is always preferable. It's safer for them, plus they would prefer to take fugitives alive and have them face justice. I haven't seen the pictures you're talking about but I'm sure it was easier since it's not Fall. It would be a LOT more difficult to sneak up on someone with dried leaves crunching everywhere.
 
  • #549
The VL seem like a more sophisticated gang. How did someone from a tiny place get mixed up with them at such a young age (I'm only assuming that the crime he went to prison for initially was connected to gang activity -- maybe an initiation? IMO OMO). And then, was it because of his relationship with the security guard that the others in her family got involved? Also, it would interesting to know if something like this would be approved by the gang? Digging further into gang culture would be interesting -- aren't there codes of conduct that would frown upon what he did? Unless the family were all high-powered drug dealers or something (which seems unlikely)?

^^^ none of these thoughts are based on anything we've seen in the news, etc. -- just speculating about how on earth he could have been motivated to do this?

Could he have been connected somehow with this?

ETA: Vice Lords history -- came out of Chicago. Mentions that they became big in Memphis (search for "Memphis". Search for "Unknown Vice Lords" also.
It certainly might have been an initiation although it sounds like he was already pretty hardened when he pulled that robbery, since he threatened the jury after he was convicted. I'm sure he became even more hardened while in prison. Tons of disciplinary actions, including gang activity, assault and possession of a deadly weapon. He also refused a drug test, so obviously he was using "inside".

And he was supposed to have a court hearing August 25 on all sorts of drug charges. Maybe I misread it, but it seems to read like he was manufacturing and selling meth IN PRISON. And attempted murder, he had a handgun. I'm actually having trouble seeing Northwest as a prison instead of a gang dormitory. Seesh.

 
  • #550
It certainly might have been an initiation although it sounds like he was already pretty hardened when he pulled that robbery, since he threatened the jury after he was convicted. I'm sure he became even more hardened while in prison. Tons of disciplinary actions, including gang activity, assault and possession of a deadly weapon. He also refused a drug test, so obviously he was using "inside".

And he was supposed to have a court hearing August 25 on all sorts of drug charges. Maybe I misread it, but it seems to read like he was manufacturing and selling meth IN PRISON. And attempted murder, he had a handgun. I'm actually having trouble seeing Northwest as a prison instead of a gang dormitory. Seesh.

You still have to question how LE identified him as a suspect almost immediately, and how did they link the baby to the murders 40 miles away.
 
  • #551
The VL seem like a more sophisticated gang. How did someone from a tiny place get mixed up with them at such a young age (I'm only assuming that the crime he went to prison for initially was connected to gang activity -- maybe an initiation? IMO OMO). And then, was it because of his relationship with the security guard that the others in her family got involved? Also, it would interesting to know if something like this would be approved by the gang? Digging further into gang culture would be interesting -- aren't there codes of conduct that would frown upon what he did? Unless the family were all high-powered drug dealers or something (which seems unlikely)?

^^^ none of these thoughts are based on anything we've seen in the news, etc. -- just speculating about how on earth he could have been motivated to do this?

Could he have been connected somehow with this?

It certainly might have been an initiation although it sounds like he was already pretty hardened when he pulled that robbery, since he threatened the jury after he was convicted. I'm sure he became even more hardened while in prison. Tons of disciplinary actions, including gang activity, assault and possession of a deadly weapon. He also refused a drug test, so obviously he was using "inside".

And he was supposed to have a court hearing August 25 on all sorts of drug charges. Maybe I misread it, but it seems to read like he was manufacturing and selling meth IN PRISON. And attempted murder, he had a handgun. I'm actually having trouble seeing Northwest as a prison instead of a gang dormitory. Seesh.

Excellent points!
 
  • #552
You still have to question how LE identified him as a suspect almost immediately, and how did they link the baby to the murders 40 miles away.

I believe social media tips helped ID the baby. And perhaps the victims' electronic devices led straight to AD. JMO. I hope the PCA is released when he's arraigned. It should be enlightening.
 
  • #553
  • #554
I may turn out to be wrong but I'm starting to think they might have gathered here regularly for reasons, iykwim, only this time he shot everyone.
We may find out more at the trial ?
 
  • #555
You still have to question how LE identified him as a suspect almost immediately, and how did they link the baby to the murders 40 miles away.

The perp and/or the victims were already on LE's radar for something ?
Also phone data, which might mean the killer did not bother to collect the victims' phones.
Odd if he did not; as one would think that would be a logical step ?
Which makes me wonder if it was a 'hit' at all, as why would a gang member or leader choose someone like A.D. a bumbling gang member wannabe (?) to carry out a hit of this magnitude ?
Four people that they wanted gone ?
I'm leaning more towards A.D. lost his schizzle and the gang members (if AD is one himself ?) are not happy about it.
A.D. is going to have to look over his shoulder a lot !
Imo.
 
  • #556
A man who was working nearby says he saw a suspicious man walking in the woods and called police.

Before his phone call was even over, police were in the area taking Drummond into custody.

I wish the same would happen in the Travis Decker case!!!
 
  • #557
We asked the Tennessee Department of Corrections if it has seen the photos, what action was taken, and how often do they conduct sweeps at that prison. All TDOC would say was, “When an inmate is in violation of policy, they are disciplined.”
https://wreg.com/news/investigation...veal-more-about-austin-drummonds-prison-past/

nice little side step that.

Not we conduct regular sweeps, not we conduct sweeps only when someone tells us an inmate has contraband, just when they are in violation they are disciplined. Mr. Drummond was obviously, by his own self evidence provide via social media, in violation of a large number of policies for an extended period. So how was that unnoticed?

It wasn't IMO. It was allowed. That computer with the streaming platforms wasn't hidden. It was in plain site. Pizza delivery? seriously? Again in plain view. His bragging about all his swag on social media? in plain view with publicly accessible posts. had anybody bothered to look in his cell or on his socials it was pretty darn evident.
 
  • #558
You still have to question how LE identified him as a suspect almost immediately, and how did they link the baby to the murders 40 miles away.
LE tried to find the baby’s parents and a relative found the cars on the road and called 911. So the relative found them not LE. So assume the relative went looking after being contacted by LE as to their whereabouts and couldn’t get hold of them.

I’ll find the link to where I read the relative found them.

This leads me to believe the spot where they were found was a known spot to the family (or possibly the family member tracked their location by a phone) IMO
 
  • #559
The VL seem like a more sophisticated gang. How did someone from a tiny place get mixed up with them at such a young age (I'm only assuming that the crime he went to prison for initially was connected to gang activity -- maybe an initiation? IMO OMO). And then, was it because of his relationship with the security guard that the others in her family got involved? Also, it would interesting to know if something like this would be approved by the gang? Digging further into gang culture would be interesting -- aren't there codes of conduct that would frown upon what he did? Unless the family were all high-powered drug dealers or something (which seems unlikely)?

^^^ none of these thoughts are based on anything we've seen in the news, etc. -- just speculating about how on earth he could have been motivated to do this?

Could he have been connected somehow with this?

ETA: Vice Lords history -- came out of Chicago. Mentions that they became big in Memphis (search for "Memphis". Search for "Unknown Vice Lords" also.
That's a fair question. Dyersburg and Jackson are not far from Memphis. If he was manufacturing meth, I could see their area being a good, quiet place to do it.
 
  • #560
I haven’t seen one iota of anything that suggests these victims were drug users. Until it’s proven otherwise, I’m going to assume he killed this poor family to
a) hurt his girlfriend (revenge)
b) send a message to his girlfriend (you’re next)
c) gain access to money/valuables via his girlfriend
d) silence them because they threatened to turn him in for some crime

and/or

HE was high on drugs and killed them in a rage

JMO
 

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