GUILTY Sweden- Saga Forsgren Elneborg, 20, 7 months pregnant, strangled to death, by Mohamedamin Abdirisek Ibrahim, 22, April '23 *Poss. honour killing*

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Can anyone tell me why Sweden took only 6 months to convict and settle his appeal, too??? There are cases I follow in the US that have gone on longer than World War II !! All he had to do was break up with her and move to another town if he didn't want his family to know. He deceived them for years...why not continue? Did he have a job and unable to relocate? Does his whole family get to visit him, in Sweden for the rest of his imprisonment, too?
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Can anyone tell me why Sweden took only 6 months to convict and settle his appeal, too??? There are cases I follow in the US that have gone on longer than World War II !!
SIx months from the prosecution of a crime to conviction and a settled appeal in a case with only one accused person is a very normal timeframe in Sweden in my opinion. The time between the prosecution to the beginning of the trial is usually not longer than two weeks (by law, although there are exceptions), and after the trial it may take up to two weeks for the sentencing. If there is an appeal against the sentencing, it takes in most cases two months before the case goes to trial in the Court of Appeal. Very few cases goes up to the Supreme Court, only when it's seen as a precedent-setting case.

The trials that have taken the longest time in Sweden have involved a number of suspects (20 - 100), or victims, and have been either criminal networks, economic frauds, an online p***phile, or online drug smuggling, and even in these cases the trials lasted about four to six months, one took a year.
 
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SIx months from the prosecution of a crime to conviction and a settled appeal in a case with only one accused person is a very normal timeframe in Sweden in my opinion. The time between the prosecution to the beginning of the trial is usually not longer than two weeks (by law, although there are exceptions), and after the trial it may take up to two weeks for the sentencing. If there is an appeal against the sentencing, it takes in most cases two months before the case goes to trial in the Court of Appeal. Very few cases goes up to the Supreme Court, only when it's seen as a precedent-setting case.

The trials that have taken the longest time in Sweden have involved a number of suspects (20 - 100), or victims, and have been either criminal networks, economic frauds, an online p***phile, or online drug smuggling, and even in these cases the trials lasted about four to six months, one took a year.
Thank you Rikissa for your post. I am really impressed with the speed of their judicial process! It makes me realize our system does not have a sense of urgency in regards to the victims and their families.
 
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Of course my question is: A "refugee" from what? Religious persecution, political persecution?
This article pretty much explains why I hate that term and think it's unnecessary

 
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Of course my question is: A "refugee" from what? Religious persecution, political persecution?
Mohamedamin Abdirisek Ibrahim was born in 2002, and came to Sweden in 2012 with his family, so he was only 10 years old at the time.

There has been a civil war going on in Somalia since 2009, and it's still ongoing. Simply said it's the federal government fighting the Jihadist insurgents, and there's also a self-declared state (Somaliland) as a third party. The different parties are supported in one way or another, by different foreign countries from near and far, including the U.S. (since the beginning). Add the different Somali clans to this mix, I would guess there are both religious, and political persecution going on, depending on which clan a person belong to, and what fraction holds the power in the area a person lives.
I can't find any numbers for the Somali civilian fatalities in the ongoing war, but there is an estimate of 150,000 fatalities linked to militant Islamic groups in the last decade, and one-third of them in Somalia. (See second link)
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