Teresa N., Haleigh's paternal grandmother #2

[stilettos]

LOL.....Which is it admit or omit?

HaHa...both. Was trying to be funny about my blind spot.

 

[TxLady2]

Boy! I've heard of people being criticized for not crying or showing emotion when someone they loved dearly is missing. This is the first time I've heard someone criticized as being "high strung" and for "crying easily" when their loved one has disappeared for 7 months!
What's a person to do? Stay in hiding from the media, I guess. But then they would probably be criticized for acting suspicious.

I guess what it means is that you cannot judge a person on whether they cry or not, or how much they do or don't cry.
I have a sister that can cry at the drop of a hat... I don't mean just shedding a tear or two, I mean sobbing and tears raining down like a faucet, (which she can also turn on like a faucet.) But she can also be meaner than a junkyard dog when she wants to be. I've been the target of her anger a number of times.
TN's tears are probably real, but her grief may be no more than Marie's or Crystal's or anyone else's, just because she cries more tears. Just saying.

 

[Whisperer]

Where was TN when she was first called? Why did she send her mother over instead of herself? She was called again later and so was AS who had been there earlier, according to her.

Seems as thought RC was spending an awful lot of time on the phone all night. Something very serious was happening. After AS visits via TN's calls, Misty has a big blow up. Nothing is correct, IMO, that any of these people have told.

What was occurring there throughout the day and night. One of my suspicions is Misty could not be found for awhile and everyone was looking for her.

Since records indicate TN does not live nearby, I highly suspect it took her awhile to drive there from her residence. Lots of action going on in Satsuma that evening. Conveniently, RC has his first three hours covered by Misty and AS...

 

[lil momma]

How could RC be on the phone so much, when he was SUPPOSE to be operating a crane? i am no crane operator, but i do not think if you have two people directing you, Which in most cases is true, then how could you possibly be listening and directing a crane and talking on the phone?

I know i am going to catch heat for this one, but something isn't right about RC's work hours.

 

[Emeralgem]

TN.. RC... MISTY.. GGMS... It's all been a pack of lies..
Just wondering if it was TN or GGMS that orchestrated all these lies to protect Ron C..JMO


YouTube - Haleigh Cummings Family EXPOSED 0001

 

[stilettos]

TN.. RC... MISTY.. GGMS... It's all been a pack of lies..
Just wondering if it was TN or GGMS that orchestrated all these lies to protect Ron C..JMO


YouTube - Haleigh Cummings Family EXPOSED 0001

Anyone know how to forward that to RC's favorite homicide detective and his superior?

Excellent summary of LIES!

 

[lil momma]

TN.. RC... MISTY.. GGMS... It's all been a pack of lies..
Just wondering if it was TN or GGMS that orchestrated all these lies to protect Ron C..JMO


YouTube - Haleigh Cummings Family EXPOSED 0001

Wow! Thank Emeralgem!


IMO, i they are all in on it!

 

[texasmommy39]

BBM
I would lean toward TN covering for Ron.

I think she would risk her job or anything else in a heartbeat for her son not to go to prison, if indeed she even sees it as a risk. She may see it as a sure thing. We dont' know, b/c she hasn't admitted to any covering. Most people in covering mode wouldn't. I cant blame her for that. I mean once one has made the decision to cover for someone they typically keep it to themselves. I get that.
Once your in...... YOU ARE IN. IMO THIS is why this small little community is silent. What is the population of Satsuma? Is the PCSO jail large enough for all those anticipated arrests (per LE)?
The experience you describe that you've had with folks in LE sounds like a positive experience with people who do their job honestly. That's great; but I wonder if we asked posters here how many LE, judges, etc in their experience, or in the news as examples, have been not so great, there would be some to speak up. I'm not knocking LE. I have family members dedicating their lives to it. I'm just saying that they're not all upstanding, etc. So it happens.
I agree with your assesment of some in LE, but, as WS members we are reading about these individuals life and their independant perspective of the legal outcome with out the whole picture ( As an I witness). IMO their are to many things that could be observed that is left out of the written record and actions speak louder than words (like saying yes while you shake your head no etc.)

I saw Susan Smith cry her eyes out. Additionally, I can see TN as being genuinely sad that Haleigh is gone - if she is. Also, people can be devastated and grief-stricken to the bone and not cry on TV imo.
I hate to hear that Susan Smith will be the definitive definition for future reference that would indicate any Mother ( or any parent) that cries her eyes out indicates guilt.
MOO

IMO TN is innocent of all this speculated BS. She is a grieving Grandmother and a heart broken Mother. Her loyalty to her child should not be questioned and does not indicate guilt or involvement. We are a here to collect the facts and develope theories that prove productive in finding this little one not draw lines in support of a missing childs family. This crime is obviously a personal crime commited by someone within these 3 families. The POI list is not that long in my opinion, that doesn't mean that the list of people that are going to be charged when this is said and done is short.
TN and her family would have no other motive but to be involved in a cover up and at this point it is not been proven by anyone here or in the media IMO that TN and family are guilty of anything. The Croslins and Sheffields need the attention of good sleuths to uncover what we have missed that will put us on the right track. WS members need to work together to come to a logical conclusion and personal feelings need not be shared (about these individuals) because, we are here to find HaLeigh not prosocute the innocent until an arrest is made or we have more info. I love this forum and all of your posts (thoughts and comic relief) :blowkiss:and wake up everyday hoping WS is user friendly today.

 

[debs]

IMO TN is innocent of all this speculated BS. She is a grieving Grandmother and a heart broken Mother. Her loyalty to her child should not be questioned and does not indicate guilt or involvement. We are a here to collect the facts and develope theories that prove productive in finding this little one not draw lines in support of a missing childs family. This crime is obviously a personal crime commited by someone within these 3 families. The POI list is not that long in my opinion, that doesn't mean that the list of people that are going to be charged when this is said and done is short.
TN and her family would have no other motive but to be involved in a cover up and at this point it is not been proven by anyone here or in the media IMO that TN and family are guilty of anything. The Croslins and Sheffields need the attention of good sleuths to uncover what we have missed that will put us on the right track. WS members need to work together to come to a logical conclusion and personal feelings need not be shared (about these individuals) because, we are here to find HaLeigh not prosocute the innocent until an arrest is made or we have more info. I love this forum and all of your posts (thoughts and comic relief) :blowkiss:and wake up everyday hoping WS is user friendly today.

Just because it has not been proven to your satisfaction, there are plenty of people who have posted very thoughtful theories as to why they believe that TN is at least involved in covering up knowledge of what happened. Whether that is ever proven is left to the same LE officers who felt it prudent to search a dumpster 17 days after the disappearance of a little girl, rather than say .......... oh, I don't know..... the first couple days.

I pray there is not one of them involved. The crime will be all the more heinous if perpetrated by someone Haleigh loved and trusted.

 

[texasmommy39]

Just because it has not been proven to your satisfaction, there are plenty of people who have posted very thoughtful theories as to why they believe that TN is at least involved in covering up knowledge of what happened. Whether that is ever proven is left to the same LE officers who felt it prudent to search a dumpster 17 days after the disappearance of a little girl, rather than say .......... oh, I don't know..... the first couple days.

I pray there is not one of them involved. The crime will be all the more heinous if perpetrated by someone Haleigh loved and trusted.

I guess it has not been proven by LE to Their satisfaction either. I still see holes in the theory that Ron and or Misty did something to HaLeigh and TN is covering. I see an investigation that is looking at the Croslins and back in Aug at the Sheffields. Misty has failed a few test? I guess those test do not prove she is guilty either. Funny that LE states the evidence found OUTSIDE the mobile home contridicts her story not the evidence found inside the mobile home. NO one has figured that out as a Hinky yet?

 

[Donjeta]

I guess it has not been proven by LE to Their satisfaction either. I still see holes in the theory that Ron and or Misty did something to HaLeigh and TN is covering. I see an investigation that is looking at the Croslins and back in Aug at the Sheffields. Misty has failed a few test? I guess those test do not prove she is guilty either. Funny that LE states the evidence found OUTSIDE the mobile home contridicts her story not the evidence found inside the mobile home. NO one has figured that out as a Hinky yet?

BBM. When did they say that? I must have missed it. I recall them saying they found contradictory evidence but not specifying where they found it.

Wonder what evidence they could have found outside the MH.

 

[KOOL LOOK]

I guess it has not been proven by LE to Their satisfaction either. I still see holes in the theory that Ron and or Misty did something to HaLeigh and TN is covering. I see an investigation that is looking at the Croslins and back in Aug at the Sheffields. Misty has failed a few test? I guess those test do not prove she is guilty either. Funny that LE states the evidence found OUTSIDE the mobile home contridicts her story not the evidence found inside the mobile home. NO one has figured that out as a Hinky yet?

BBM. Now that you put it this way, a light bulb turned on. You know TM, this can go two ways in theory, not just one.

Being that LE states the evidence found outside the MH contradicts Misty's story, well the truth is Misty would be responsible for some of the evidence in the home that could prove or disprove her answers. But, evidence outside of the home could in fact be nothing under Misty's control and responsibility. Further pointing to her innocence and non-involvement.

This statement by LE actually corroborates her innocence possibly thus indicating another person involved who would have left this evidence LE is referring too. In turn, should point LE direction to keeping an open mind for possible other suspects to investigate. Misty states she was at home that evening with the children then they went to bed. So, she shouldn't have any evidence pointing to her outside of the home that would be directly linked to Haleigh's disappearance that night. How can you leave evidence outside, if you weren't outside? You can't unless you are guilty, someone wants to make you look guilty, or the evidence points to a possible unknown perp involved.

 

[tehcloser]

Can someone link to the "evidence outside" please?

 

[debs]

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BBM. Now that you put it this way, a light bulb turned on. You know TM, this can go two ways in theory, not just one.

Being that LE states the evidence found outside the MH contradicts Misty's story, well the truth is Misty would be responsible for some of the evidence in the home that could prove or disprove her answers. But, evidence outside of the home could in fact be nothing under Misty's control and responsibility. Further pointing to her innocence and non-involvement.

This statement by LE actually corroborates her innocence possibly thus indicating another person involved who would have left this evidence LE is referring too. In turn, should point LE direction to keeping an open mind for possible other suspects to investigate. Misty states she was at home that evening with the children then they went to bed. So, she shouldn't have any evidence pointing to her outside of the home that would be directly linked to Haleigh's disappearance that night. How can you leave evidence outside, if you weren't outside? You can't unless you are guilty, someone wants to make you look guilty, or the evidence points to a possible unknown perp involved.

This makes absolutely no sense. Could you please explain this another way?

 

[Donjeta]

I don't understand. Misty's story was that she and the kids were home or somewhere near the home all night and then they went to sleep and an unknown perp sneaked in and took Haleigh. *IF* there is some evidence outside the home that contradicts Misty's story, how can this evidence possibly prove that an unknown perp sneaked in while she was sleeping and took Haleigh?

 

[Skully]

I guess it has not been proven by LE to Their satisfaction either. I still see holes in the theory that Ron and or Misty did something to HaLeigh and TN is covering. I see an investigation that is looking at the Croslins and back in Aug at the Sheffields. Misty has failed a few test? I guess those test do not prove she is guilty either. Funny that LE states the evidence found OUTSIDE the mobile home contridicts her story not the evidence found inside the mobile home. NO one has figured that out as a Hinky yet?

I hadn't heard that but I may have misunderstood or misheard. But if Ron and Misty said they "never use that back door", but LE sees trash bags out there or cigarette butts, or something that proves they do use the back door often that would be a contradiction, Yes? Or if they find multiple marks or scratches on the screen door that could indicate the door being bricked frequently, Yes? If LE sees that the brick came from the pile of bricks in the back yard, yet they say they never saw it, it could be a contradiction, Yes?

I thought they said inside the home, as in no laundry detergent, dirty cloths in a dryer, a washer filled with dirty cloths, yet she said she washed the blankets. The bed was made according to Ron so how was she sleeping in it? I was thinking that sort of things.

 

[alwaysonmymind]

I guess it has not been proven by LE to Their satisfaction either. I still see holes in the theory that Ron and or Misty did something to HaLeigh and TN is covering. I see an investigation that is looking at the Croslins and back in Aug at the Sheffields. Misty has failed a few test? I guess those test do not prove she is guilty either. Funny that LE states the evidence found OUTSIDE the mobile home contridicts her story not the evidence found inside the mobile home. NO one has figured that out as a Hinky yet?

BBM:

I haven't seen/heard LE make that statement. Link? TIA

 

[Donjeta]

OK I found one reference to evidence outside the home but I'll take it to the Misty thread because it has nothing to do with TN, so far.

 

[texasmommy39]

http://www.examiner.com/x-7403-Tamp...-a-stranger-and-Misty-Croslins-911-call-video

 

[tehcloser]

Police report that physical evidence found outside the trailer where Haleigh was reportedly kidnapped from contradicts the story Misty has told police.

From the link.