Teresa N., Haleigh's paternal grandmother #2

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  • #661
Nah, sorry her grandbaby is missing she should be doing whatever it takes to find her. When LE and TM have to expose to the public what was said...that to me speaks volumes. Why lie if you have nothing to hide.
Enabling is not helping!

Thanks, good point too.
 
  • #662
If I am being honest this is all starting to come together for me. I have a suspicion that LE might have told TN or even RC to not talk about certain aspects of the case. Either that or she knows in her heart if she believes in the route that LE is going it would mean Haleigh is dead.

As far as the part I bolded....I am beginning to think that the whole Mother of the year issue was latched onto because of the custody disputes that RC has had with Crystal. How can she still defend her?
I think back in the beginning TN never dreamed that she would have to carry out this facade for so long. If Misty, like the rest of her family had left Satsuma perhaps the Cummings felt like that was the answer to getting her to stay in Satsuma. I just think none of them ever thought it would be like this for so long now. I don't know.....

Watching her tonight it became perfectly clear whyshe still says she believes Misty and supports her and her story. Misty's story, lies and all are the only way she can maintain any hope that her grandaughter is alive and is coming home. To admit to herself that Misty is lying means admitting that something horrible happened to that poor little girl and that she is gone forever. And she simply does not seem to be at a place mentally where she can surrender that last shred of hope as of yet. It isn't the facts that are making her believe or support Misty, it is her faith that her prayers will be answered and god will not let something so horrible happen to her little grandaughter.

I think TN is probably the only one in all of this that is not playing soome sort of games. Her support of Misty does come from simple grief and the true denial that such grief can cause. It was truly heartbreaking to watch her tonight. I feel so bad for this poor woman.
 
  • #663
I wish I could hear her plead for Haleigh instead of sticking up for MC.......IMO

You got your wish.

Does Teresa have a criminal lawyer yet? Looking at my wrist watch...

It's obvious in your posts TN has committed some type of crime. Will you explain what she has done to give weight to your opinion since LE, media, family or any surrounding people have not made statements accusing TN of any criminal activity?

Has Teresa commented about Tim lately? If I were Teresa I would be very upset with him

From what I've seen about Teresa, she doesn't engage in over zealous responses and behavior. More likely than not, she probably has already forgiven Tim based on the fact shes revealed she's a Believer.

Could it be that TN told investigators and people like TM what she really feels not having a clue that they would betray her and make it public, but state in public that she believe Misty because that is what Misty would be hearing. If Misty has the answers turning their back on her and saying things about her to the media isnt gonna make her forthcoming or make her feel like she can trust them.

Agree. Excellent insight. I don't believe this letter. But if its true, may all involved receive the greatest punishment allowed by the Laws of this Land. May the courts have wisdom and full understanding of all those who could be involved.
 
  • #664
Watching her tonight it became perfectly clear whyshe still says she believes Misty and supports her and her story. Misty's story, lies and all are the only way she can maintain any hope that her grandaughter is alive and is coming home. To admit to herself that Misty is lying means admitting that something horrible happened to that poor little girl and that she is gone forever. And she simply does not seem to be at a place mentally where she can surrender that last shred of hope as of yet. It isn't the facts that are making her believe or support Misty, it is her faith that her prayers will be answered and god will not let something so horrible happen to her little grandaughter.

I think TN is probably the only one in all of this that is not playing soome sort of games. Her support of Misty does come from simple grief and the true denial that such grief can cause. It was truly heartbreaking to watch her tonight. I feel so bad for this poor woman.

Hear ye, insightful and caring post seeing into their real pain and suffering. TN is suffering, but looks better than ever. Me thinkies has something to do with her relationship with the Lord. He does hold his up, shielding her from much greater pain than she realizes.

I hope this letter isn't true, it would be even more terrible for all the family if it went down this way.
 
  • #665
Frankly...I'm amazed at the restraint TN and GMS have shown. No one would be able to say that about me. I'd blow it, especially if I had the suspected culprit alone. I admire them for that.

If TN is finally coming to her senses...HELLO---why could she not see what is so obvious to everyone else about her DIL....Misty has LIED from day one and TN has adored her....

My heart breaks for Haleigh and the betrayal at the hands of those responsible for her well being....:banghead:
 
  • #666
TN saying I don't care who it implicates I just want Haleigh home etc doesnt sound like she is backing Misty big time. She said it perfectly IMO if she reacted to everything that is put out there all the rumors the facts that are sensationalized she would be flip flopping all over the place and you can't do that. She has to leave that part up to the investigators. I can't imagine being in her shoes and it truly breaks my heart to see and listen to her she is in a tremendous amount of pain IMO.
Excellent point Busy! I would imagine that she does know more than we do and that can provide the strength you allude to if there is hope and or a soon to be reached resolution! I have a funny feeling it is... soon to be resolved.
 
  • #667
TN saying I don't care who it implicates I just want Haleigh home etc doesnt sound like she is backing Misty big time. She said it perfectly IMO if she reacted to everything that is put out there all the rumors the facts that are sensationalized she would be flip flopping all over the place and you can't do that. She has to leave that part up to the investigators. I can't imagine being in her shoes and it truly breaks my heart to see and listen to her she is in a tremendous amount of pain IMO.

I don't care who it implicates sounds just like what I'd expect people to say, it's just that in her interviews, with all the excuses for Misty she's given the impression that she doesn't care who it implicates as long as it's not their babysitter.
 
  • #668
I don't care who it implicates sounds just like what I'd expect people to say, it's just that in her interviews, with all the excuses for Misty she's given the impression that she doesn't care who it implicates as long as it's not their babysitter.

I have to say on TN's behalf that her love for her grandaughter goes right to the core of her being and so does the fear that she may have lost her forever. This is her first born grandbaby. Denying in her own mind that MC had something to do with it is her own way of keeping the hope that Haleigh's is still alive. I know she has teetered where MC is concerned, but in my estimation, that is just going through the stages of grief. Mark K. can tell I'm sure. Tim M. knows. I'm not on the inside looking out like she is but I have my grandchildren, every one of them, where they are supposed to be. At home in their beds. My heart breaks for TN. I believe I can see where she is coming from.
 
  • #669
I don't care who it implicates sounds just like what I'd expect people to say, it's just that in her interviews, with all the excuses for Misty she's given the impression that she doesn't care who it implicates as long as it's not their babysitter.

or her son..JMO
 
  • #670
I have to say on TN's behalf that her love for her grandaughter goes right to the core of her being and so does the fear that she may have lost her forever. This is her first born grandbaby. Denying in her own mind that MC had something to do with it is her own way of keeping the hope that Haleigh's is still alive. I know she has teetered where MC is concerned, but in my estimation, that is just going through the stages of grief. Mark K. can tell I'm sure. Tim M. knows. I'm not on the inside looking out like she is but I have my grandchildren, every one of them, where they are supposed to be. At home in their beds. My heart breaks for TN. I believe I can see where she is coming from.


Denial is a strong force but IMO she did not sound like she was in denial at all in that voice mail to TM. She sounded like someone who's sure that Misty knows it all, which leads me to question if it's just reserved for public performances.
 
  • #671
Denial is a strong force but IMO she did not sound like she was in denial at all in that voice mail to TM. She sounded like someone who's sure that Misty knows it all, which leads me to question if it's just reserved for public performances.

IMHO..As far as denial on her part.. She may very well have some denial going on in reference to accepting that Haleigh is really no longer alive, but she isn't in denial because she wants desperately to believe she is still alive...JMO
 
  • #672
Denial is a strong force but IMO she did not sound like she was in denial at all in that voice mail to TM. She sounded like someone who's sure that Misty knows it all, which leads me to question if it's just reserved for public performances.


Denial out of heartache is yet the strongest force. As I stated in my earlier post, "I know she has teetered where MC is concerned, but in my estimation, that is just going through the stages of grief."

Do you honestly THINK she turns on the tears for an audience? What I saw on NG last night was from the gut. She is in genuine pain over this whole ordeal.

Who are we to accuse her of acting? We're not walking that mile in her shoes.
 
  • #673
IMHO..As far as denial on her part.. She may very well have some denial going on in reference to accepting that Haleigh is really no longer alive, but she isn't in denial because she wants desperately to believe she is still alive...JMO

Wow, you sound like you know she "really" isn't alive. And you know this......how? I don't know either way. Sometimes I think she is, other times I wonder if she is gone. I also can't read that much into someones mind as to know what they are thinking. I wish I could, this mess would be over by now and we would know where Haleigh is.
 
  • #674
Denial out of heartache is yet the strongest force. As I stated in my earlier post, "I know she has teetered where MC is concerned, but in my estimation, that is just going through the stages of grief."

Do you honestly THINK she turns on the tears for an audience? What I saw on NG last night was from the gut. She is in genuine pain over this whole ordeal.

Who are we to accuse her of acting? We're not walking that mile in her shoes.

I haven't watched that show yet. But I didn't say that her tears can't be real and that she isn't grieving because her granddaughter is missing or dead. On the contrary, her grief used to seem the most genuine to me in the beginning. I was referring to the denial of Misty's lies when I said it's meant for public performance, not the grief.
 
  • #675
I haven't watched that show yet. But I didn't say that her tears can't be real and that she isn't grieving because her granddaughter is missing or dead. On the contrary, her grief used to seem the most genuine to me in the beginning. I was referring to the denial of Misty's lies when I said it's meant for public performance, not the grief.


I understand what you mean, I really do. The whole thing is just such a jumbled mess, it's difficult to know which is fact and which is fiction. In the meantime, this little girl continues to be missing. I wish I had some answers as I know you do too.
 
  • #676
Wow, you sound like you know she "really" isn't alive. And you know this......how?

Intuition and my gut feeling from seeing Ron Cummings and TN in that first plea video when he hit the ground after saying... I would give my life to have my child's life back..JMO
And thats not to mention all the lies and inconsitencies from ALL the Cummings Clan..JMO
 
  • #677
Intuition and my gut feeling from seeing Ron Cummings and TN in that first plea video when he hit the ground after saying... I would give my life to have my child's life back..JMO
And thats not to mention all the lies and inconsitencies from ALL the Cummings Clan..JMO


I understand. While intuition and gut feelings are strong indicators, they still are not facts. Until there has been a satisfactory conclusion to this case, we will have to rely on those perceptions I suppose. Her appearance (TN) on NG last night was so compelling to me and I'm not one that is easily swayed, that I find myself giving this grandmother the benefit of the doubt because I believe her love for Haleigh (the innocent in all of this) is all she cares about at this point. Seems to me MC, RC, and whoever else isn't coming up with any answers are taking a backseat. She's kind of stuck in the middle of a son that has chosen to marry this girl that was with her grandaughter last. Trying not to upset the applecart, so to speak, although they do a pretty good job of it themselves. Nothing stable about that marriage. Astonishing to me! We will just have to wait until such time that we will all know what is truth and what has been fiction. I'm leaning toward showing TN more understanding as I do feel her emotions are quite raw and quite real...........just IMO
 
  • #678
Interesting, how we all perceive things differently. I didn't see things like others have. I saw an histrionic woman who is on a mission and has an agenda....to save her son.

TN can sob and cry on a dime....so can her son. Of course there will be people that say it is real and genuine..they have that right.

Common sense would tell most people that it is unlikely the baby is alive. Relatives will hold on to hope...can't blame them; however, with the facts that we have, it is likely that Haleigh has met up with a terrible person. The two who resided at 202 have the answers.

TN might have brought up sympathy in some but I can't muster up mine for her at this time. Shame on RC for letting his mother protect him and expose herself to criticism by the public and bring sadness to others. Maybe RC is thinking better her than me.
 
  • #679
IMO, LE became concerned when Teresa hired MN and realized she could release inside information she has gained during this case to the media...and it is why they chose to do a press release touting all the work they have done to date and again went after Misty, imo. Maybe it is time Teresa and MN put it all out on the table and let the chips fall about what has really been happening behind the scenes, imo. Why bother to protect the "integrity" of an investigation when it has done nothing to bring Haleigh home and has only served to destroy people's lives?

What ever happened to NeJames?

I def agree with your idea about putting it all out on the table, letting the chips fall where they may, SS.

I do not agree w/your final statement, though. I want the perp(s) and the accessories prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
 
  • #680
Did y'all see that Teresa's boyfriend has a charge for an offense that occurred on 2/9/09 in Lake County? Pure coincidense, I'm sure, but odd.
 
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